I have been collecting Rolexes for a number of years and have a goo number of watches. I do not have any real "exotic dial" rolexes, No Paul Newmans, no rail dials. I do have 3 Tudor Monte Carlos ( A home plate, a 2 register and a 3 register Monte Carlo.
My guestion to the Forum is whether Exotic Dials are worth the premium.
I know for a Newman, it raises the price about $20m. There are no alternatives to the home plate or 2 register monte carlo, but the 3 Register vs the regular big block could be $4m-$5m. And the rail dial from a few hundred to a couple thousand for sea dwellers.
I just wanted to get feedback about what you all feel
there is also the underlined dial and the double swiss dial as well as the tropical dial, the sigma dial, the patrizzi dial and the inverted 6 dial? I know I must have missed some, but you should get my point? Are these worth the premiums
Big +1. It's about what you find beautiful as a collector & the relative rarity of...
May 11 2012, 7:03 PM
...what you're pursuing. If you're hunting a perfect PN and you love the look, then yes, the premium is worth it. If you're perfectly happy with a standard dial Val 72 Daytona, then it's probably not & you're most likely following fashion if you don't have a real yen for the PN.
In general, though, there is a reason why some dials/models have a premium over others and that is scarcity and the "prestige" the watch commands in the collector community.
But there's nothing wrong with declaring that sort of stuff total BS and being happy with a simple watch that truly speaks to you. It really all depends on what game you want to play & what you're trying to get out of the hobby.
IMO the market for Exotics especially the PN's is Driven
May 11 2012, 2:32 PM
by primarily, Investor/Speculators who say they are Collectors. And supported by many Dealers who also say they are Collectors. Regardless of what the EXPERTS say the Market is soft and overpriced. ONLY BUY what you LIKE, and don't be afraid to say NO IT'S TOOO MUCH. Check out Tuscanyrose' a/k/a Da Real JBuckly web site
I always laugh when I hear other dealers claim to be collectors and some even passionate collectors. They use this mainly as an in to buy a watch many times below market from a seller who doesnt want to sell it to a dealer(somebody who will sell it for a profit)but a collector.And then when the dealer aka collector goes to sell its out of his private collection aka he wants top dollar...LOL.I collected for around 20 years before I ever sold or thought about selling a watch. Now I buy and sell lots of watches. I also know many real collectors who do not buy and sell but just buy (collect) they might sell if they find a better example BUT they have a collection and can show it and its typically never for sale. Ask the so called collectors aka dealers investors speculators etc to show you there collection and many times you will find its the same watches they are selling or have for sale (but away from your eyes). I personally feel the market is weak on these overall at shows and online but the big auction houses with the promotion involved by the passionate dealers is very slick and well planed out and they are getting top dollar.
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The rarest watch you can find and the only one worth paying
May 11 2012, 11:04 PM
any money for is the watch that makes your heart beat faster and that you can't seem to take off your wrist...even when going to bed. I'll bet that 98% of the people who think of watches as their business and how they make their money, started out being enthusiasts first...ruled by their hearts.