I have been collecting Rolexes for a number of years and have a goo number of watches. I do not have any real "exotic dial" rolexes, No Paul Newmans, no rail dials. I do have 3 Tudor Monte Carlos ( A home plate, a 2 register and a 3 register Monte Carlo.
My guestion to the Forum is whether Exotic Dials are worth the premium.

I know for a Newman, it raises the price about $20m. There are no alternatives to the home plate or 2 register monte carlo, but the 3 Register vs the regular big block could be $4m-$5m. And the rail dial from a few hundred to a couple thousand for sea dwellers.

I just wanted to get feedback about what you all feel

i'm afraid more than this my friend

cheers from Italy

So my question is do you think it is worth the premium. We also have the cream explorer II, Maxi dials etc

there is also the underlined dial and the double swiss dial as well as the tropical dial, the sigma dial, the patrizzi dial and the inverted 6 dial? I know I must have missed some, but you should get my point? Are these worth the premiums

it depends

for me some YES, they worth

some others (again, for me) less

but it depends from your way to "see" and to "feel" your collection


cheers from Italy

...what you're pursuing. If you're hunting a perfect PN and you love the look, then yes, the premium is worth it. If you're perfectly happy with a standard dial Val 72 Daytona, then it's probably not & you're most likely following fashion if you don't have a real yen for the PN.
In general, though, there is a reason why some dials/models have a premium over others and that is scarcity and the "prestige" the watch commands in the collector community.
But there's nothing wrong with declaring that sort of stuff total BS and being happy with a simple watch that truly speaks to you. It really all depends on what game you want to play & what you're trying to get out of the hobby.
Best,
T.

the beautiful detail on a PN dial, some may say its worth the extra money, however in real life size I'm alway disappointed as IMHO the real detail is so small its almost lost completely.

 

regards

John

my AD, who is also a friend, says the value of a watch is in the eye of the buyer. I agree. it depends on what your watch lust titer is at the time.

by primarily, Investor/Speculators who say they are Collectors. And supported by many Dealers who also say they are Collectors. Regardless of what the EXPERTS say the Market is soft and overpriced. ONLY BUY what you LIKE, and don't be afraid to say NO IT'S TOOO MUCH. Check out Tuscanyrose' a/k/a Da Real JBuckly web site

I always laugh when I hear other dealers claim to be collectors and some even passionate collectors. They use this mainly as an in to buy a watch many times below market from a seller who doesnt want to sell it to a dealer(somebody who will sell it for a profit)but a collector.And then when the dealer aka collector goes to sell its out of his private collection aka he wants top dollar...LOL.I collected for around 20 years before I ever sold or thought about selling a watch. Now I buy and sell lots of watches. I also know many real collectors who do not buy and sell but just buy (collect) they might sell if they find a better example BUT they have a collection and can show it and its typically never for sale. Ask the so called collectors aka dealers investors speculators etc to show you there collection and many times you will find its the same watches they are selling or have for sale (but away from your eyes). I personally feel the market is weak on these overall at shows and online but the big auction houses with the promotion involved by the passionate dealers is very slick and well planed out and they are getting top dollar.

I'm intrigued by the lapis dials. Plus this gives me a chance to show them





They didn't make many of certain models...the Submariner being one and the Datejust another. The earlier non quick DJ would be the rarer of the two varieties of Dj I would think.

The Day Date would likely be more common than the Dj IMO if for no other reason, the DD it is more common than the 18k DJ in general.

I would venture that in both cases the value is exponentially higher with the exotic dial.

The gentleman showed a Tiger Eye dial 1601 the other day for sale in VRM as well. That's the only one I've ever seen.

any money for is the watch that makes your heart beat faster and that you can't seem to take off your wrist...even when going to bed. I'll bet that 98% of the people who think of watches as their business and how they make their money, started out being enthusiasts first...ruled by their hearts.

John Ireland

Is the one on your wrist....
Collect for yourself and enjoy them for yourself!