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Serial 2,403,xxx

August 29 2012 at 1:51 PM
drew83  (Login drew83)
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Hi everyone,

I know posts like mine may be annyoing to you but still, I dare ask happy.gif I have a SS Datejust 1601 with serial 2,403,xxx. I'm unsure whether it is late 1968 or early 1969. Can you date the watch more precisely ? I wish it were 1968 as it was an important year in the history of my country. Somebody in other forum said it was irrelevant as each part of the watch was obviously manufactured on a different day and thus an exact date cannot be given. I kind of disagree with that since I have Omega Extract of Archive available for each of my Omegas stating full date of production. Does Rolex offer any such service ? Their website seems kind of mysterious - no contact information whatsoever.

Thank you very much for your kind and expert advice.

Cheers, Ondra

 
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rallepeng
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1969 = 1.944.413 - 2.241.881

August 30 2012, 1:30 AM 

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drew83
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Re: 1969 = 1.944.413 - 2.241.881

August 30 2012, 3:32 AM 

Thank you very much for your response. However, I believe the information is incorrect since there are watches listed here in the serial number project section with serials 2,4xx,xxx clearly marked as (having been bought/having papers from) 1968. There is also corresponding chart stating that 1968 went up to 2,426,xxx (I'm inclined to believe it actually ended somewhere near 2,5xx,xxx).I wasn't aware of the webpage before, please pardon my ignorance. Therefore, the watch is most likely the final quarter of 1968.

Regards, O.



 
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steboe
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LOL.Imho you should believe in what Ralle says:) nt

August 30 2012, 3:38 AM 

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drew83
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Re: LOL.Imho you should believe in what Ralle says:) nt

August 30 2012, 6:51 AM 

As I said, check the serial number project you have available here. Many watches with 2,4xx,xxx are dated as 1968 according to original papers.

 
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rallepeng
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sir, its up to you to believe what somebody is helping you ;-)

August 30 2012, 1:47 PM 

your 1601 is from 1970! no doubts!!!
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drew83
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Re: sir, its up to you to believe what somebody is helping you ;-)

September 2 2012, 3:33 PM 

I have no reason not to believe you. I'm waiting for the opening tool to arrive so that I can see the date on the caseback. I will let you know then what it says. Where do you get your data from ? It differs a lot from charts available online. Cheers O.

 
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rallepeng
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1970 = 2.241.882 - 2.589.295

August 30 2012, 1:44 PM 

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Paul
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What does your caseback say ?

August 30 2012, 4:01 AM 


Hiya Ondra,


On a vintage Rolex, a serial number is just that - a 'number' from which we can garner a loose idea as to when the case was made.


Inside your caseback there will be a date code imprint (hopefully IV68 or similar) that tells you the exact quarter and year that the caseback was made.
We can then assume that the case, caseback and all the other bits got put together relatively soon after that caseback date.


If I was wanting a vintage Rolex from a specific time period, I'd be focussing on the caseback date stamp.
Then I'd know for certain that at least some of my watch was manufactured in the time spot that's significant to me.

 
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drew83
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Re: What does your caseback say ?

August 30 2012, 10:23 AM 

Hi Paul,

thank you very much for your advice, it clearly makes sense to me. Do you think I can open the case safely with any of the available Rolex "case openers" ? I don't want to take the watch to a watchmaker because of this simple (?) procedure unless absolutely necessary.

Thanks again, O.

 
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Paul
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Use the expert mate ...

August 30 2012, 12:49 PM 


Some fellas own and use a dedicated Rolex case opener. Others use a generic opener.
Some simply use the cheapie screwball tool.


I still say use your watchmaker. It's a 2 minute job for them and a competent fella won't scratch your case-back.

The watchmaker will also check the gasket is in good condition and seated correctly in its recess.
They won't cross the threads like someone did on an old chronograph I own (not me !).
And they should offer a pressure test if you swim with your watch.


    
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John
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Re: Serial 2,403,xxx

August 31 2012, 3:37 PM 

Ralle
I wonder if there is a little wiggle room in those dates. If you look on the dial archive you will see a meters first Red Sub owned by Johan with a 2.41 serial number, unpolished and never serviced. I believe that this is the same watch where Johan stated on the forum that the watch was purchased by the original owner in 1969.

 
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rallepeng
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where is written 1969 bought? ;-)

September 1 2012, 2:45 AM 

2.41 is 1970 and cant be sold 1969... wink.gif there for sure III.69 (or I.70) in caseback and thats reason for opinion "sold 1969" wink.gif
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Johan
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Sorry John and Ralle

September 1 2012, 8:13 AM 

My watch is double papered but the papers are blank. I only had the glass changed after purchase and forgot to ask the watchmaker about the case back details. Next time.....

J

 
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John
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Re: where is written 1969 bought? ;-)

September 2 2012, 6:48 AM 

Ralle you are educating me here. I notice that you say III 69 or I 70 in the case back. Why not IV 69 in the case back? I have read on vrf before that case backs with IV 69 are seldom seen. Why is that? Thanks for the help.

 
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rallepeng
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sure, forgotten.... IV.69 is possible too ;-)

September 3 2012, 12:02 AM 

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