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UK military codes

December 23 2013 at 3:03 AM

marcello pisani  (Login marcellopisani)
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here is the english translation/upgrade of a work about UK military codes I have written some years ago for an italian watches magazine :


" this subject would deserve a medium size book, however I thinks that is interesting to share some basics informations particularly referring to military watches delivered to UK Forces from the 50s on.
In the short space of a single work it's impossible to describe all possible situations and every peculiar chances .. so all owners of eventual " exceptions " are kindly requested to share them.

WW II and earlier engravings
During the WW II and sometimes up to the 2nd half of the 50s the most common assignations were the followings :
1) British Army ( that after Cromwell is not anymore " Royal ", a term granted only to single units distinguished by bravery or loyalty ) :
--WWW (=Waterproof Wrist Watch ) followed by a capital letter identifing the manufacturer ( for ex. K for Timor , Y for Omega and F for Longines ) ; sometimes also the manufacturer name was engraved on the back ;
-- the broad arrow ( a stylized arrow pin that identifies the item as Crown property ) ;
-- one or two series of digits that show the progressive delivery number and sometimes also the watch case number.
so for ex. a Timor watch could have this engraving :
broad arrow
WWW
K
8211 ( delivery number )
36791 ( case number ).

2) Royal Air Force :
-- broad arrow
-- abbreviation 6B ( sometimes 6BB or 6A or 6E ) followed by a number ( usually 3 digits ) identifying that particular model and his type ;
-- year of delivery and progressive assignement number ;
-- sometimes in watches delivered during the WW II there was also the abbreviation " AM " (=Air Ministry ) ;
so for ex. a Longines could have these engravings :
broad arrow ( often not present if there is " AM " )
AM
6B/159
10233/40
About the point of delivery numbers is really important to enphasize that every new year the assignement number was not beginning again with " 1 " ( or " 01 " or " 001 " or .... ) but with the very first free number ... so for ex. if in 1945 the last number assigned had been " 6431 ", in 1946 the first watch would get the number " 6432 " .
This procedure was obviously followed by all UK Forces.

3) Royal Navy ( that includes also Royal Marines and Fleet Air Army ) :
-- broad arrow ;
-- HS (= that stands for Hydrographic Service ) , used also for other branches belonging to the Navy such as R.Marines,
followed by a number ( from 1 to 11 ) defining type and/or destination ;
for ex. HS 9 defines a wrist-chronograph and HS 10 a divers watch ;
-- progressive assignement number and/or case number .
so for ex. a military Rolex Explorer ref. 6150 could have :
broad arrow
HS 10 CD ( Clearance Diver )
942.115

Hybrid engravings
Since the beginning of the 50s we find backs with series of numbers often wrongly related to Nato Stock Number code :
a) " 0552 " that is a UK military code choosen by the Ministry Of Defence ( and not a " NATO prefix for UK Navy watches " ) for watches delivered to the Navy ;
b) " W10 " : that is another MOD code for British Army watches ;
these codes can be defined " hybrids " as they contain either parts of national classification ( such as " W10 " ) and parts of the NATO one.
Some typical examples :
I) Omega " fat arrow " , with these back engravings :
-- " 6645 " (=NATO code for a wrist watch , a number we shall also find in the Nato Stock Number ) ;
-- broad arrow ;
-- " 101000 " : a 6 digit nunber that indentifies the particular model ( later this number will have 7 digits ) ;
-- 6B ( RAF )
-- 542 , a MOD number that shows the type , in this case a pilot wrist watch ;
-- progressive delivery number ;
so the complete code would be :
6645-101000
6B-542
6850/53

2) for a RN Hamilton chronograph we should have :
-- broad arrow ;
-- 0552 ( R.Navy watch )
-- 924-3306 ( model + type code )
-- progressive delivery number ;
so that the complete code would be :
0552/924-3306
1720/72

3) in the same model described above but delivered to RAF we should have seen :
--6B ( or 6BB )
-- 551 that is the type code used for this model by RAF :
-- progressive delivery number ;
so that the complete code would be :
6BB-551
1860/72.

NOTE : sometimes the 7 digit type code will remain unchanged in the Nato Stock Number ( as for Rolex milsubs ) , sometimes will change as we will see .


Nato Stock Number
NSN arrives around the middle of the 60s : it was studied to make a perfect identification within NATO of every kind of supplies ( from bullets to spare parts for laundry machines) , in order to have an easy classification and supply of all items already in use or expected to be used in the military environment.
It consists of 13 digits so defined :

A) the first 4 digits define the SPECIES (=sort ) code ; in other words they define " the family " to which belongs the item , so for ex. 5305= screws , 6645= wrist watches ;

B) digits 5 and 6 are the code of the country who has given this NSN , that can be different from the country who has made the item ; so for ex. a watch produced in France can have the country code of another nation , such as Germany or USA .
Some country codes are :
-- from 00 to 09 : United States
-- 99 : UK
-- 12 : Germany
-- 14 : France
-- 15 : Italy

C) the last 7 digits are the own item code : so all 7 digits codes describe an item ( or a group of items with extremely close features ) within the nation that has requested this particular NSN.
This means :
1) the 7 digits code is defined as " with no inherent significance " , so it doesn't give any evident information about the item
( in other words it's completely at random ) ;
2) it's progressive and depends on the time in which the codification has been requested ; for ex. " 545.7078 " can be a lamp and the following number ( " 545-7079 " ) a ground-air missile.
3) some 7 digits codes have been used by more than a country ( as for watches ) some only by the country who has created that code.

Some UK examples :
*) a British Army Smith watch delivered in 1970 had this NSN : 6645-99-961-4045
and the complete delivery code would be :
W10-6645-99-961-4045
1579/70.

) Omega SM 300 and Rolex milsubs delivered to the British Army had the same NSN :
6645-99-923-7697
so for ex. the complete code for a Seamaster would be :
W10-6645-99-923-7697
288/67.

*** ) Omega SM 300 and Rolex milsubs delivered to the R.Navy still had an hybrid code and not a NSN number
so for ex.
--- a Rolex 5513 had this code :
0552-923-7697
199/74.
-- an Omega SM 300 the following one :
0552-923-7697
577-70

FOOTNOTE : Up to the present days there is no proof that progressive delivery numbers could start every year from a number lower than the higher one given in the previous year. "



    
This message has been edited by marcellopisani from IP address 2.233.58.158 on Dec 23, 2013 3:04 AM


 
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Mike
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Re: UK military codes

December 23 2013, 3:26 AM 

That's a very nice summary of all the codes etc - thanks.

 
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fletch01
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great work ....i have it also for IWC German Military

December 23 2013, 3:48 AM 

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i hope you like it

cheers
Marcus

 
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Jason (964RS)
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Excellent work Marcello - thanks for sharing!!

December 23 2013, 6:04 AM 

A great summary.

 
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DrStrong
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Wow ! Great work Marcello !

December 23 2013, 6:27 AM 

thanks for sharing your expertise and have a great Holidays !

 
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Grahame
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Nice work

December 23 2013, 6:39 AM 

Thanks for sharing. Good work and Merry Xmas to you !
G.

 
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Paul Russell
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Great Marcello...

December 23 2013, 7:36 AM 

My other hobby is collecting WWW watches. Love seeing any additional info on the subject.

Have a great Christmas.

Paul.

 
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Ac.rolex
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Thanks Marcello, very informative!!

December 23 2013, 7:55 AM 

Great work and huge help to new collectors. And I personally am grateful to you for providing info on my Indian military rolex wink.gif. Happy holidays !!

Best
Atin

 
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Jan Holmgaard
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Excellent work and great information!

December 24 2013, 1:58 AM 

Thanks for sharing!

Jan

 
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Jan Holmgaard
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and should be put into classic posts of course!

December 24 2013, 3:19 AM 

Merry Christmas,
Jan

 
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Lou
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Very informative Marcello-- thanks

December 24 2013, 4:37 AM 


 
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Dave McD
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Wow. Very cool info and very well researched!

December 24 2013, 6:05 AM 

Classics!

 
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Ismat
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Very useful

December 24 2013, 7:08 AM 

Thank you for sharing,

Cheers

Is.

 
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marcello pisani
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thanks to you guys !!

December 24 2013, 7:11 AM 

warm wishes for Xmas !!

 
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Fantastic information--grazie e Buon Natale! T. nt

December 24 2013, 11:55 AM 

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GaryVA
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A nice present for us Rolex junkies

December 24 2013, 5:32 PM 


Marcello, this is a real gift for us.

Thank you and Merry Christmas,

GaryVA

 
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watchyouwant
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marcello, is 6BB issued to RAF, but used outside the UK in the rest......

December 27 2013, 12:05 AM 

of the commonwealth? i always thought along these lines..... kind regards. achim

 
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marcello pisani
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good but tough question....

December 27 2013, 1:55 AM 

I have noticed that the prefix " 6BB " was widely used for RAF chronographs ( CWC-Hamilton-Precista-Newmark ) either in " re-issued " watches ( from Navy to RAF ) and in watches directly delivered to RAF.
but in Defence Standards you can also find a 6BB code used for a deck watch ( boxed ) with the following code : 6BB/5273637.
you can also find the 6BB prefix used before the complete NSN in watches ( such as CWC G 10 ) issued from the 70s on.
so this code was certainly and widely used also within UK and not only within Commonwealth Forces.

 
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marcello pisani
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found another 6BB allocation ...

December 27 2013, 2:58 AM 

in 1980 issue of DS 66-4 with same identifing number ( 9614045 ) for a general service watch :
1) Navy : 0552-961-4045
2) Army : W10/6645-99-961-4045
3) Air Force : 6BB/9614045

 
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