reportedly was given to this individual's father by someone aeons ago.
I want to say something here with utmost and all due respect. No offense meant to anyone.
Watches in 1965 were watches. It was worth $50.00 maybe.
Dials were refinished if they looked bad. Radium dials OFTEN looked bad for reasons we all are aware of.
Whilst I realize everyone's quest for the perfect museum barn find, you simply have to be a little realistic maybe Phillip.
In 1958 these weren't issued as limited edition collector's pieces in special boxes with a host of accoutrements and kept in safes as such. Collector's items didn't exist in 1958. It was just a watch, and it was treated like any other watch by
independent watch repairers and decades of tradition and that was not and is not a criminal offense.
This man had NO idea what he had. He was almost literally without words when I told him the honest possible value of this watch and I couldn't even bring myself to mention in exact dollars what a perfect example with original dial and hands might bring. It was like a scene from Antiques Roadshow. The man is in his 70's likely.
He plans to leave the watch to his son.
I am only here to try and bring it to the best possible working order and sympathetic refurbishment as he does wear it every day and it stopped running properly.
The insert was glued in by the last person to work on it so it would not be lost. I probably will have to do that as well but I will try and do a better job. The bezel was frozen to the case. It turns now.
I am recommending strongly that he let me obtain an aftermarket bezel and insert for his daily wear and that we put this one away for safekeeping due to it's extreme value and risk of possible loss due to lack of proper adherence of the insert to the bezel ring. The insert alone is worth more than the entire watch was
in 2000. If I can convince him to do that I will lightly super glue the insert as that is easily removed and perhaps someone with a stronger desire later can source a nice original bezel that will sufficiently hold the insert.
I was very surprised to see a gilt refinished dial. Mostly they are "printed". this one is NOT printed.
It often pains me greatly of late, to see the condescension and disdain constantly coming for watches that have been otherwise treated normally in the field for 60 + years,and being portrayed as road fill compared to the holy grail pieces that the elite wealthy crowd promote, proliferate and speculate on.
Furthermore imho an effort to find original parts where they have been changed and put them back into a watch that will most benefit from the restoration is also not a criminal offense.
If you have an otherwise extremely nice rare automobile, save for an unsalvageable quarter panel...does it not behoove one to find a proper vintage and condition panel from an otherwise useless car that is damaged beyond repair or an NOS panel and install it rendering the auto whole again?
I think while the quest for original pieces has definite validity, the over emphasis on this and the ski slope nose effect on pieces that have not had the perfect life is undermining the enjoyment for many. Is the quest for and disappointment in the lack of "holy grail" ruining the fraternity and otherwise pleasantry of mutual enthusiasm for Rolex watches? Something to think about. Just my humble opinion. To each his own.
This watch is just this man's watch. He doesn't care if a collector likes it or not.
Here are some further photos of the watch. Please don't use these without express permission. It is not my watch and the images of it are really not for further use with respect to the owner.
It is very hard to capture the SWISS at 6:00 but it is definitely there and S W I S S with a loupe.