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Looking for help assessing a stella dial

April 9 2017 at 3:30 PM
Hans  (Login bieb1)
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Dear Forum, I am considering acquiring a 1974 1803 DD with a turquoise stella dial. Having read about them and looked at many pictures, I am trying to determine whether or not this is the real deal. I have seen the watch and dial close up and it is a high sheen/gloss type lacquer, with raised Rolex etc. lettering and it is in mint condition. What do the experts here think? Can a 40+ year old dial be in this pristine condition? Or is this a later fitted after market dial?

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Andrew Tan
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Need more macro shots to assess the dial!

April 9 2017, 3:40 PM 

Need to have a closer look at the lume dots, the day wheel portion slope has proper enamel?
I have seen before real good refinished Stella Dials but the lume dots was a quick tell tale sign. Thanks
Think there are more experts in VRF who can offer more advice. Cheers!

 
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Hans
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Re: Looking for help assessing a stella dial

April 9 2017, 3:41 PM 

[linked image]?193

[linked image]?987

 
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Hans
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Re: Looking for help assessing a stella dial

April 9 2017, 3:43 PM 

Apologies for the first pics, did something wrong I think and they showed up as thumbnails...

 
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harrison
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I won't touch it as the word font is not what I familar with. nt.

April 9 2017, 6:30 PM 


 
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Ron
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I have to agree...

April 9 2017, 8:16 PM 

Just saw a turquoise stella in a Google image search that happened to be from Jacek at HQM, and based on the images shown, the font on the watch you're considering is not as finely printed as on the HQM watch. Also, that watch had T SWISS MADE T below the 6 hour marker, as opposed to your T SWISS T dial.

FWIW...

Ron

 
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jP
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Stella dials

April 9 2017, 8:53 PM 

The T SWISS T Stella dials were the earlier versions.

 
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Ron
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There you go...

April 9 2017, 11:43 PM 

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing…

And I have as little as anyone.

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Hans
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89.248.140.21

Thank you for your replies

April 11 2017, 5:11 AM 

Thank you for providing comments. Still hoping a few more expert collectors will chime in.

 
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Martin B
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It is a refinish and not a very good one. Compare to this..

April 12 2017, 5:33 AM 


 
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Hans
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92.104.20.2

Thank you for the comparison

April 12 2017, 7:27 AM 

Thanks, this provides a good comparison. When you say refinished, do you mean an original normal Rolex dial re-finished as stella? I am asking, because the seller states the dial has the appropriate markings on the back as per one of the Rolex dial suppliers of the time.

 
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Martin B
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Yes, that is usually how it is done..

April 12 2017, 8:41 AM 

Maybe a damaged dial or a plain gold dial that has been refinished. It is pretty common.

 
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Hans
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What do experienced stella dial owners and experts think?

April 11 2017, 5:18 AM 

I have seen a few font variations on legitimate stella dials (as per auction records and from reputable dealers), one of which is similiar to the one shown above. As noted by one of the responders, the T-SWISS-T is an earlier dial vs the T-SWISS MADE-T one. Also, there appear to have been be at least two different dial manufacturers involved in making stella dials for Rolex. Anyone know who they were?

 
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harrison
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The word printing is not well defined. I believe it is not original.nt.

April 11 2017, 5:56 AM 


 
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harrison
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the following is the fake dial I saw before.

April 11 2017, 6:11 AM 

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You can see some similarity.

 
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Robby
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Does an original Stella wideboy exist?

April 11 2017, 6:27 AM 

That would be awesome! Thanks for posting this refinish for comparison purposes.

 
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Martin B
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No, they do not exist. nt

April 12 2017, 5:27 AM 


 
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Hans
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Looks similar indeed

April 12 2017, 7:30 AM 

It does look similar.

 
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attilio giugia
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Looking for help assessing a stella dial

April 13 2017, 4:52 PM 

council to see the back of the dial. although the writing seem thin.
h.n.d.
Attilio

 
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Hans
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92.104.20.2

Decided to pass on this one...

April 15 2017, 11:31 AM 

..after all the helpful comments. Given the high price of these dial versions and in doubt about its originality, I will pass on this one and keep on looking. Thank you to all VRF members who took the time to view and comment!!

 
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