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Which one 5513 Gilt or 1680 Red

April 14 2017 at 11:16 PM
Redkaratefox2  (Login redkaratefox2)
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Hi Guys,

Open opinion here.

If you had around $14k to spend on a daily watch,based on
5513 Gilt or 1680 Red which one would you honestly

Criteria is;

Parts will still be available / serviceable in 10 years time
(not by Rolex service centre)
Will appreciate in value
Has more character and looks classy.


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(Login roh123)
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Difficult to compare...

April 14 2017, 11:39 PM 

A minty red sub is probably easier to find for that money. A minty gilt will cost you quite a bit more. Equal condition I would get the gilt but as you have a budget I would get the red sub as condition is key to me. One idea is to spend more for that perfect gilt but it will be much more than the 14k you mention.

Best of luck!

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(Login AWSie)
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That is easy.

April 15 2017, 4:51 AM 

Your budget will not buy you a nice 5513 gilt.

Movement parts for both watches are essentially the same and widely available. Original dials and hands are no longer found hence often replicated.

The 5513 gilt would be it for me.

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Kris D.
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That's why you need both ;)

April 15 2017, 6:54 PM 

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(Login redkaratefox2)

Place nice in the sandpit

April 15 2017, 9:14 PM 

And that is not playing nice
in the sandpit happy.gif

Thanks for the comparison anyway

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Davey crawford
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Gotta be the red

April 16 2017, 5:30 AM 

Red wins for class and value for money
Why would you not send it to rolex for a service?

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(Login redkaratefox2)

Rolex Australia

April 16 2017, 3:55 PM 


Rolex Australia will totally replace anything
on the watch that looks faded etc.

I had my 5513 Mk1 maxi dial assessed by them, which had never been serviced
They wanted to change, dial, bezel, hands and pearl.

I took the watch back and had internals replaced
by other watch repairers.

They have a strict policy here and will not budge.

As a consequence if I need parts I buy off VRF and have
a local watch maker service the watch.

Rolex Australia are just archaic in their practice and
don't really care about the client.


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(Login OysterCollector)
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It is not just Rolex Australia, it is "_____" Australia that will give you grief

April 17 2017, 8:09 AM 

as everything is always unecessarily complicated and difficult, especially in Eastern states,

When I went into Collins Street they wanted to replace the very parts that were important to my watch, so I took the same path as you!!!

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(Login CoupDeFoudre)

Re: Rolex Australia

April 23 2017, 8:00 AM 

Hi Red
I'm in the same position - who did you go with for the service?

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(Login andrewsabz)
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Rolex service Australia

April 23 2017, 11:35 AM 

I have used max schweizer (Sydney CBD) in the past and they did a great job on a vintage GMT I had, will listen to what you want and won't replace anything without consulting you.

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(Login blakerhodes)
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Re: Which one 5513 Gilt or 1680 Red

April 16 2017, 9:21 PM 

not sure you can find a gilt that would be that great for $14k, I think you could find a pretty cool Red sub without papers for 14 so id lean that way.

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Andrew Tan
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An easy choice for me

April 17 2017, 4:22 PM 

The Gilt 5513 will be my choice.
Reason: The number of Gilt 5513 is lesser in existence than a 1680 Red Sub. There are MK1-MK6 series of Red Sub 1680 and they were made over a long extended period of time (more than 10 years - correct me if I am wrong). Gilt 5513 existed only for years lesser than the Red Sub 1680

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jon gagen
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Re: Which one 5513 Gilt or 1680 Red

April 21 2017, 4:09 PM 

I've had my 5513 32 years-never serviced and never let me down. An definitive classic

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(Login _Reborn)
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I will pick the Red Sub...

April 24 2017, 1:43 AM 

good daily watch too bec of the date...

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