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Vintage GMT repainted dial

October 30 2017 at 2:09 PM
Ola  (Login norrskenet)
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Hi
Can anyone advise me please. Im no expert on rolex but I know what Im looking for in terms of looks. A vintage GMT Master from the late 60ths.
I found one and it looks almost new. The dial is repainted and the white parts are slightly yellow. Is that common, to repaint the dial? What impact does that have on the value? The one I found is about 10 000 euros.

Best/Ola

 
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Paul
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Repaint or relume ?

October 30 2017, 2:39 PM 


Hey Ola,

A lot of value for an old sports Rolex is in the dial ..... and a 'repainted' dial certainly reduces value. If it's a fully repainted dial, a lot of collectors would reject the watch completely.

A 'relume' is a different story. This means the original dial is intact and correct but the plots have been touched up. Once again, a watch with a relumed dial will value lower than a comparable watch with a totally original dial. Some collectors will accept a relumed dial though, particularly if it's been well done and all else is ok.


And even with the crazy prices we now see for vintage sports Rolex watches, a late 60s GMT with a repainted dial is not worth 10,000 euros.

Any pics that would help us help you ?


 
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Ola
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Re: Repaint or relume ?

October 31 2017, 12:53 AM 


 
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Per
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Nothing on that watch makes sense Ola. Pass (nt)

October 31 2017, 1:33 AM 


 
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MichaelK
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Agree to disagree- the case is very nice. I have had that paricular

October 31 2017, 2:45 AM 

example in my hands as the dealer selling it got screwed by a guy selling this watch to him and the dealer is not that firm in vintage...Due to the fact that he still has it, it means that Paypal did not reimburse him...

Anyway- if you nedd a very good case- negotiate the price. Movement seems to be ok as well. The rest is for the bin box...

Michael

 
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Per
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I am somehow hesitant that Ola has that dial on hand :)

October 31 2017, 3:29 AM 

Case is early, crown guards look sharp, lugs look so so but as a project for someone with the important parts it might be worth the trouble. Sorry to hear the dealer got screwed.. I will still never understand the added box, papers etc. Not very serious regardless of knowledge level imho.

 
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MichaelK
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I agree to this! (nt)

October 31 2017, 4:39 AM 


 
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Paul
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Mid-case might be ok ... surely the case-back is a dud ? ......

October 31 2017, 3:56 AM 


.... looks to be a nice, clean, era-correct, butterfly rotor movement.

 
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MichaelK
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Caseback is counterfeit- including that stupid I/59 (!) date stamp (nt)

October 31 2017, 4:40 AM 


 
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Ola
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Re: Agree to disagree- the case is very nice. I have had that paricular

October 31 2017, 3:05 PM 

thank you i really appreciate your input. I will not buy that watch.

 
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Lee
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Really need pics but a repainted dial nearly always kills the value.

October 30 2017, 2:40 PM 


 
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Ola
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Thank you all for good advice. I will continue my search

October 31 2017, 3:07 PM 


 
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