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Rolex 1018 Question

February 3 2018 at 10:56 AM
Michael Cohen  (Login macohen)
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Hi All,

After a long hunt I recently acquired a 1018 that has a newer hand set with an incorrect second hand that I'd like to replace with a period correct set. Seeing that 1018s are pretty scarce, would a hand set from a 1601 / 1603 work with this watch with a 1570 movement? It came with a newer 78360 bracelet that's in good shape. Here are a couple of quick pics, excuse the dust and glare:

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Thanks for your help!

Michael

 
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mkvc
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I think you may need a dial also.

February 3 2018, 9:44 PM 

If you look at a genuine 1018 dial, the markers at the "corners" (3, 6 and 9) are long and the intermediate markers are shorter. Here, all the markers are the same length.

I am not sure about the hand. Obviously, any hand made for the 1570 movement will fit the pinion, but the hands for different references are not necessarily all the same length.

 
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Michael Cohen
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re: I think you may need a dial also

February 3 2018, 10:28 PM 

Thanks for the info about the hands. Regarding the dial, I have seen 1018 dials with equal length hour markers, quite a few photos online. Whether they were genuine is another story.

 
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John Ireland
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My 1018 has the exact same dial but

February 8 2018, 9:18 PM 

in silver rather than dark gray. Your second hand looks fine. No different than mine.

 
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Michael Cohen
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Good stuff

February 9 2018, 11:26 PM 

Glad to know about the second hand length. I was able to pick up a set of hands with tritium lume. I’ll post pics after I get them installed.

 
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Pete
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Re: Rolex 1018 Question

February 4 2018, 5:36 AM 

Dunno about the hands but the dial looks pretty close to what RSC installed (at my request) when an old wrecked one went in for the restorationhttps://imgur.com/a/kh5ul

And good call. I love all the 101x watches, so nice on the wrist, good on bracelet or straphttps://imgur.com/a/J1x36

 
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Vlad
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that's a beauty! (nt)

February 4 2018, 7:43 AM 

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Michael Cohen
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Good info

February 4 2018, 9:45 AM 

Thanks Pete, very useful information. Tomorrow I'm going to take the watch to the Rolex Service Center in San Francisco to ask Giovanni for his thoughts. I'll let you know what I find out. It wouldn't surprise to learn that it's an older tritium service dial.

I too am a fan of the 101X series. Here's my 1013:

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Pete
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Re: Good info

February 5 2018, 8:24 AM 

Beautiful 1013. I have hopes mine will look as nice when it gets back from LAWW!

 
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John Irerland
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Wow....great looking 1013...

February 9 2018, 7:42 AM 

Try it on a black ostrich strap...dressy by rugged. The dial and hands are fantastic.

 
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Michael Cohen
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Thanks!

February 9 2018, 11:22 PM 

I like your ostrich strap idea, will have to pick one up.


 
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Michael Cohen
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update

February 5 2018, 5:53 PM 

I took the watch to Giovanni at the Rolex Service Center in San Francisco today. He said that the dial was authentic Rolex and that the hand set had been replaced at some point. I asked him about using a hand set from a 1601. He said that it would work with a 1570 movement and the hands would be the correct length. Now I'm hunting for a hand set, all good!


 
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mkvc
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Congratulations!

February 5 2018, 10:37 PM 

I will admit that I saw and liked the watch, but did not bid because I did not think the dial was correct. You were the smarter one!

 
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mkvc
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Follow-up question

February 6 2018, 4:46 PM 

If you remember, did Giovanni say the dial was a dial Rolex used for ref. 1018, or only that it was an authentic Rolex dial? If the former, I'm going to start keeping an eye out for another one.

 
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John Ireland
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Has to be for the 1018...

February 8 2018, 9:30 PM 

Only other steel 36mm non date Rolex from that era that is out there is the 1016. The 1018 case is lighter and thinner, and the case tube and crown are also smaller.


 
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Michael Cohen
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Re: Follow-up question

February 9 2018, 11:20 PM 

I asked him if the dial looked okay and he said yes, it’s a Rolex dial, not a redial. We didn’t discuss it further than that. Do a search on the big auction site for Rolex 1601 and you’ll see dozens of watches with dials that have equal length hour markers like the ones on my watch. John’s comment is logical, the only other thing I can think is that it could be a service dial.

 
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