I've heard that soft drinks i.e. Post-Mix, sold in Pubs can't be advertised as Pint or Half Pint and that they must be shown as the Ltr or ml equivalent.
I've always been given one with the "half pint" or "pint" mark struck on them - having asked for that by name.
And when you get a mixer the matrix thingy talks about oz's - but obviously you don't ask for it that way.
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 8 2003, 7:43 AM
What about gills? They've been disregarded, haven't they?
martin
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 8 2003, 9:45 AM
Fractions of a gill were used for spirits. They have now been replaced by millilitres. Gills are no longer a legal unit for trade.
Tony Bennett
Isle of Man
August 8 2003, 12:10 PM
re (martin): "Fractions of a gill were used for spirits. They have now been replaced by millilitres. Gills are no longer a legal unit for trade".
REPLY: Try holidaying in the Isle of Man, where gills are both legal and used all the time.
Come to think of it, Tony Blair's not their Prime Minister, either.
And I'm told property prices are cheap...
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 8 2003, 1:17 PM
Same thing with the channel islands, isn't it... the bit about Blair, not the house prices, that is.
Ross
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 9 2003, 7:07 AM
"Try holidaying in the Isle of Man, where gills are both legal and used all the time."
Obviously we are talking about the UK.
SteveH
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 11 2003, 8:37 AM
The IoM is a UK dependancy
martin
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 11 2003, 1:20 PM
I beleived that the IoM was a sovereign independent state that happened to share the same Queen as the UK and which, due to its small size, "Contracted out" its Foreign Affairs and Defence to the UK. As far as I know, the UK Government has no jurtisdiction over the IoM. It should also be noted that the Bishop of Sodor and Man never had a seat in the House of Lords.
Ross
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 11 2003, 2:51 PM
The Isle of Man, along with the Channel Islands, is in a very strange position.
It is a possession of The Queen and the British Government is responsible for its foreign affairs. Beyond that things get more difficult.
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 12 2003, 7:10 AM
Example you can spend GB money in IoM but you cannot spend manx money on UK m/l.
Also - the queen can quosh sentences.
Also - they still have the death penalty which is mandatory for murder but always gets reduced on automatic appeal.
Also - homosexuality is illegal
Also - the sit parliament outdoors once a year
Also - there is no speed limit outside the "towns"
Also - corporal punishment is legal
Also - there is a "citizens prison"
Also - they have their own cat breed that has no tail
Also - it is the only place where vikings and christians were happy to live together
And also it is a dependancy of the Crown.
I've done a lot of research and I'd love to visit!
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 12 2003, 7:11 AM
AND!!!!
(lucky b***ards)
IT'S OUTSIDE THE EU!!!
Ross
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 12 2003, 8:25 AM
Here's a more accurate description:
"The Isle of Man is not a part of the United Kingdom but a dependency of the Crown with its own government, legislature and courts and its own administrative, fiscal and legal systems. The Crown is ultimately responsible for the good government of the Island and acts in this respect through the Privy Council on the recommendation of Ministers of the United Kingdom Government in their capacity as Privy Counsellors. In that capacity, the Home Secretary
is charged with prime responsibility for Isle of Man affairs.
The Island's parliament, the Court of Tynwald, is one of the oldest in Europe. It consists of a Lieutenant-Governor appointed by and representing the Crown, an Upper House (the Legislative Council) and a Lower House (the House of Keys). Tynwald legislates in domestic matters, the laws it adopts requiring ratification by the Queen in Council; the Home Secretary is responsible for advising the Privy
Council whether or not to recommend that the Royal Assent be given.
In strict law, the United Kingdom Parliament has full power to pass laws applicable to the Isle of Man but, by constitutional convention, does not in the ordinary course legislate on the Island's domestic
affairs without its consent. This convention
would be followed unless it were overridden by some other consideration, an example of which would be an international treaty obligation."
"Also - they still have the death penalty which is mandatory for murder but always gets reduced on automatic appeal."
No, it was abolished in 1993: see Capital Punishment (Abolition) Act 1993.
"Also - homosexuality is illegal."
No, it was legalised in 1992: see Sexual Offences Act 1992 (age of consent 21) and a reduction to 18 in the Criminal Justice Act 2001.
"Also - the sit parliament outdoors once a year"
Yes, interesting.
"Also - there is no speed limit outside the "towns""
This was abolished in 1905.
"Also - corporal punishment is legal"
No, it was abolished in 1993 for juveniles and absolutely by the Criminal Justice Act 2001.
Ross
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 12 2003, 8:33 AM
"Outside the EU."
The Island is subject to Community provisions:
"only to the extent necessary to ensure the implementation of the arrangements for [the Island] set out in the Treaty concerning the accession of new Member States to the European Economic Community and to the European Atomic Energy Community signed on 22 January 1972."
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 12 2003, 9:46 AM
I stand (well actually "sit") corrected on the 3 legal points I have made - its been a while since I re-checked up on them !!!
Despite this, I'd still love to go to Manx!
Ross
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 12 2003, 9:58 AM
Despite?!
Metre Man
Come back to haunt Mr H
August 12 2003, 11:38 AM
Irrespective of whether Mr H's list of attributes regarding IoM is accurate or not, it tells us an awful lot about his attitude to society and sense of values.
Re: Soft Drinks in Pubs
August 13 2003, 4:41 AM
Seems like my "poking stick" has done the trick.
I'll now delve into my windup bag and bring out the red rag marked "for bull use only"