I might have asked this before, but here goes anyway:

Can anyone recommend an organisation that I can join that is eurosceptic and quite radical? (perhaps with a hint of non-violent-millitantnous)?

What about CIB? Are they lively?

Or perhaps a group that has links with the countless eurosceptical groups across europe?

Before anyone suggests - I'm not including the UKIP.
Nothing against them but I am looking for a pressure group rather than a political party. Of course you might recommend a group that is *supported* by UKIP, or even a "front" type group that represents all the interests of a multiple of like-minded groups and parties.

Now I realise that I'm going to get some jibes from the pro-EU chaps that post here - it comes with the territory.

Heck I might even get criticism from someone thousands of miles away that has never even visited the UK! ;)

BTW - I now intend to join BWMA.

Well I've been insulted many times by ignorant folk who claim I am part of the BWMA I might as well actually be a member rather than just tut and shake my head each time the insult comes!

I'm off to look for the link now - but if BWMA want to add it to this thread then I guess there's no harm in that! ;))

I'm just updating this thread so it goes back to the top of the list!!! (cheeky).

Gosh hasn't this board got that little bit busier??


(he says while walking about with hands clasped outward behind back and whistling and looking upward)

"Before anyone suggests - I'm not including the UKIP."

I don't blame you for not going that far!

"Gosh hasn't this board got that little bit busier??"

I know, it's taking me so long to reply to everything!

re: "What about CIB? Are they lively?"

REPLY: Here are a few facts to help you decide:

1. C.I.B. has been going for many years - 15?

2. It has some notable names at the top - e.g Lord Stoddart

3. They have a good track record of organising public meetings and usually get good speakers and good turn-outs

4. Its membership peaked at around 3,500 about 2-3 years ago, but has now slipped back to around 2,600

5. I think the reason for this is that many anti-EU activists have lost faith in C.I.B. as a vehicle for effective anti-E.U. protest. This is partly because its leadership does not generally take on board its activists' ideas and is regarded as somewhat moribund at present

6. The C.I.B. is comparatively wealthy, with funds of £70,000 or so. They have always insisted this should be held against the day of the euro referendum, which, after the Queen's Speech today, may well be significantly closer

7. C.I.B.'s membership has become increasingly elderly. Its Annual General Meeting was very susbstantially people aged 60-plus, more so than in previous years.

8. They publish a well-edited regular members' magazine with top-line contributors


You could try the Democracy Movement. Here are some facts about the Democracy Movement to help you decide whether to get involved:

1. It has a younger activist base than C.I.B.

2. It has a youngish leadership, notably Stuart Coster, one of the three full-time staff, who is articulate, energetic, but a touch too politically correct on some issues for some of us

3. It is not a membersip organisation. You can only join as a 'supporter'

4. It has, up-to-date, been funded by Lady Annabel Goldsmith, widow of the former Jimmy Goldsmith, though this funding is beginning to abate, I think

5. It produces some fairly good information leaflets on the E.U.

6. It is not decisively for Britain leaving the E.U. but is certainly 'E.U.-critical'

7. It organised the largest-ever anti-E.U. march in this country, the 'Stop the Nice Treaty' demonstration in London in 2001. It attracted around 12,000 marchers and a wide spectrum of political support including some overseas speakers, the Green Party and the Communist Party of Great Britain (!).


I shall think more about your enquiry and see if there are other groups I could suggest that you could contact.

NOTE: There are certainly links here and there with eurocritical organisations in other E.U. countries. Robert Theobald of Theobald Sewing Machines, Luton, is very close to a lot of the liaison activity with continental E.U.-critical groups

Thanks for all that info Tony - great stuff.

Sounds like the DM is more up my street, however I'm surprised they don't advocate complete withdrawal.

Hmmm, maybe I should join DM *and* CIB?

P.S. To BWMA - the cheque is in the post!!!

"I'm surprised they don't advocate complete withdrawal"

Unlike the Catholic Church...

....that was actually quite funny