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February 18 2004 at 5:04 PM
Bud 

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One of my professors pronounces degrees Rankin ending with "kin" and the other one with "keen". I always thought it was pronounced and spelled as in "kin". Anyone else heard it pronounced with the long ee sound?

 
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Re: Untitled

February 20 2004, 12:42 PM 

Never. But I have heard the reyn ("ren") pronounced "rane"

 
 
Tim Buck II

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February 24 2004, 5:17 PM 

Nobody uses Rankin. We all use kelvin. And kelvin is British too.

 
 
Bud

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February 24 2004, 11:02 PM 

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Nobody uses Rankin.
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Nobody, eh? Well I do. So do all the engineering professors at my college and most other colleges in the US, and a good fraction of practising engineers. I take it that we don't count as people, then?

 
 

Re: Untitled

February 25 2004, 1:58 AM 

Lord Kelvin was British. The Kelvin is not British in as much as it is a part of SI and not the Imperial system.

If you are not just Eric but a seperate person, as Bud believes, please desist posting this inflammatory and factually incorrect garbage. It is only going to make you enemies.

 
 
SteveH

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February 25 2004, 4:16 AM 

"nobody uses..." is the usual text of Euric, I think you'll find.

What is the temperature today - it feels quite cold. I reckon its about 240

 
 
Robespierre

Re: Untitled

February 25 2004, 5:12 AM 

Nobody, eh? Well I do. So do all the engineering professors at my college and most other colleges in the US, and a good fraction of practising engineers. I take it that we don't count as people, then?


I believe YOU do. But no REAL engineer or scientist does. You must go out of your way to take published data and convert it to this useless form just to be different. Or to say it can and is done. If you were wasting time under my employ, for sure you would be collecting your next pay cheque from the unemployment office.

There is a reason that data is published using either degrees Celsius or Kelvin, but never Rankine.

 
 
SteveH

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February 25 2004, 6:43 AM 

lol!

CALM DOWN!

I was merely saying that Euric usually starts his quotes with "No-one uses..." ! I wasn't saying that no-one uses Celsius or whatever - I would be contradicting myself if I did! You read my post wrongly.

I've never used "Rankine" myself - I don't even know what it means.

However I would ask a close friend to shoot me on the day that I declare that no-one should be allowed to use such a word and that anyone who does is somehow "lower" than me.

Sound familiar?

 
 
martin

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February 25 2004, 8:55 AM 

Steve has never heard of Rankin.

There are four commonly used temperature scales -

Celcius - Water freezes at 0ºC, boils at 100ºC
Kelvin - Identical to Celcius, except that 0K is absolute zero.

Fahrenheit - Water freezes at 32ºF and boils at 212ºF
Rankin - Identical to Fahrenheit, except that 0ºR is absolute zero.


If you cast your mind back to the gas laws, you might recall that

P1 P2
-- = --
T1 T2

Where P1 and P2 are gas pressures and T1 and T2 are temperatures measured relative to absolute zero. Almost all scientists and most engineers use the Kelvin scale, but due to the fact that Fahrneheit is widely used in the US, US engineers sometimes use Rankin instead of Kelvin.

 
 
MattS

Rankine

February 25 2004, 9:41 AM 

It might help if you all at least spelled the unit correctly.

It's spelled RankinE. This may be why there is confusion about the pronunciation. The unit is named for the British physicist and engineer William Rankine (1820-1872). So it is just as BRITISH as Lord Kelvin.

As to the use in the US, it is most certainly used in thermodynamics applications as much as the BTU. I was educated to use Rankine for customary applications and Kelvin for metric ones in college (mind you if there was any question about my age, I'm 24).

 
 
martin

Re: Untitled

February 25 2004, 1:01 PM 

MattS wrote

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It might help if you all at least spelled the unit correctly.
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Typo on my part - I have never actually used the unit in anger! (I have used the other three in the past!)

 
 
Bud

Re: Untitled

February 25 2004, 4:22 PM 

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But no REAL engineer or scientist does.
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Evidence, please?

 
 
Robespierre

Re: Untitled

February 28 2004, 6:41 AM 

Evidence, please?


If you check your handbooks you will see all referance use either Kelvin or degrees Celsius only. I'm referring to both electrical and Mechanical Engineering handbooks. In either case, Rankine never is seen.

In the few cases where I have seen Fahrenheits used in formulas, it was in the form of °F/°F, where the fahrenheits cancelled each other out. Formulas that depend on an actual temperature use either Kelvin or Degrees Celsius.

Look at the formula to calculate resistance based on temperature. It only works in Kelvin or degress Celsius. It works in both because the temperature difference of either is the same number.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/restmp.html




 
 

Re: Untitled

February 28 2004, 9:33 AM 

Errr, what handbooks have you been looking at, mate? All the ones I see use both Rankine and Fahrenheit and Celsius and Kelvin.

 
 
SteveH

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February 29 2004, 10:23 AM 

Look up "selective vision" !

 
 
SteveH

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February 29 2004, 11:13 AM 

Look up "selective vision" !

 
 

Re: Untitled

February 29 2004, 3:45 PM 

We got you the first forty-minutes before, Steve!!! Cheers. ps I am drunk again.

 
 
Bud

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February 29 2004, 10:22 PM 

I have textbooks and manuals making reference to degrees F and R, as well as other American engineering units.
This is not my opinion, metre. This is a fact.

 
 

The Thing is, Bud,

March 1 2004, 12:42 AM 

That even the BRITISH handbooks and manuals etc in my library at college feature Rankine and Fahrenheit, also!

 
 
SteveH

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March 1 2004, 4:23 AM 

<<<Evidence, please?>>>

Another clue that Rabies-deer is not a UK'er



 
 
Stan

Personal attacks

March 5 2004, 10:02 AM 

Mr H,

When are you going to learn to concentrate on the issues rather than the personalities?

Practically every post I've seen of yours tries to score points against the individual as much as the subject under discussion.

 
 

Re: Untitled

March 5 2004, 5:35 PM 

It is because these personalities are so amusing; their amusing nature ought to be highlighted.

 
 
SteveH

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March 8 2004, 4:19 AM 

And in the case of Eric (metre) poked with a (virtual) sharp stick so that he growls

 
 
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