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July 7 2006 at 4:03 PM
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I have a 62 T-bird that I am updating a bit to make it safer and run better. What I am trying to do is install 66 T-bird front suspension and disc brakes on it. I have the parts, but my question is where do I get a 2-bay master cylinder that will fit this application? The old single bay master just won't cut it with the disc-drum combo. Also, I want to change out the generator for a more modern alternator, any suggestions and info will be greatly appreciated.

 
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Theo
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Easy one...

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July 11 2006, 5:27 PM 


 
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Master Cylinder And ALT Conversion

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July 31 2006, 7:50 AM 

Can you use the MC from the donor car? You mave have to use the later booster also. The donor will also give you all the valving and line routing info.

HIGH MOUNT ALT



LOW MOUNT ALT



I believe you will want the LOW MOUNT and the 65/66 actually uses this system and might be easier to find (with correct ALT, REG and charging harness).

 
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Master and alt help

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July 31 2006, 4:43 PM 

Thanks for the suggestions. The diagrams and pictures are especially helpful. The master cylinder from the 66 T-bird, however, is the same single-bay style that is on the car now. I'm guessing that I'm going to have to use one from something more modern, such as a mid-seventies Lincoln or maybe a Granada. I'm just not sure if they will fit without major mods.

 
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Yeah, I had A Brain Hiccup On That One

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August 1 2006, 6:00 AM 

I am getting so old I cannot remember when it went to a dual chamber. Are you using the origional four piston KH brakes? Nice setup...

Read this entry and see if it helps...This gentleman has mounted a GRANADA M/C to a 59 BIRD (GRANADA disc upgrade);

http://www.squarebirds.org/dcforum/DCForumID1/1095.html
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I am looking for the PCV system from an early 1962/63 221/260 SBF that had the oil filler tube in the front cover and the PCV valve mounted on the rear of the intake. I would like it complete if possible, in pieces otherwise;

1) Front Cover And Tube
2) 4V Intake Manifold
3) Complete PCV Hookup On Rear Of Intake
4) Smooth Closed Rocker Covers

 
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STAND BACK! Just Had A Brain Storm...

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August 1 2006, 6:30 AM 

Just thinking. If the donor brakes are from a 1966, why not use a dual master cylinder from a 67 BIRD (if it will fit the booster)(this is what I meant to say first go-around) and that should give you the correct piston size to properly operate the changeover? I assume you took the valving and tube routing from the 1966?

This may interest you also;

http://www.squarebirds.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi

 
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Kultulz, your brain is stormed! LOL

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August 1 2006, 6:27 PM 

His block will not work with the alternator brackets you posted if it is original. 1963 was the first year blocks had holes in the front for the alternator bolt so you have to make a small bracket that goes from the side bolt hole around teh front to catch the bolt and shorten the spacer. You also can't use a top mount alternator so you have to find a lower adjustment arm. For a master cylinder a late 60's F100 works great but dual master cylinders conflict with the shock tower support brace. Look at my Tbird page in my Superford link below to see both swaps. You may also want to join FordFE.com because this forum is dead and gone and no longer monitored by the members except an occasional visit like right now! Hawkrod

Hawkrod

39 Ford Deluxe Coupe
59 Tbird 430
60 Lincoln Premier
(2)62 Tbirds
(3)68 Cougar XR7-G's
69 Cougar 428CJ 4 speed
77 1/2 Ford F250 4X4 w/460 swap
86 SVO mustang
76 F250 Crew Cab
1969 Mach I
look at my cars past and present at superford!

 
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ALT Mounting

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August 2 2006, 12:40 AM 

I am aware of that. The change was 62 to 63 wasn't it?. Can that ear be drilled and tapped to accept the later mounting bolt? Your installation shows the bolt off somewhat. Is your mounting bracket C3SE 10156-B?



Here is a ready made bracket if they will sell it separately from the kit;



I have also read where a dual master cylinder will interfere with the support. Did the later BIRD ever use a remote vacuum reservoir like the earlier BIRDS?

Another informational URL;

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1039109706/Generator-to-alternator-

Brackets available from Crites Restorations

http://www.critesrestoration.com/galaxie.htm



Thanks for the clarification(s)!

 
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There is nothing to drill....

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August 2 2006, 1:56 PM 

62 and older blocks don't have anything there. If you drill a hole you will hit water. In 63 they revised the blocks to include the mounting boss but they were not drilled on all cars, only those that had alternators (Tbirds for example). Starting in 65 all blocks had the hole drilled and tapped. Hawkrod

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39 Ford Deluxe Coupe
59 Tbird 430
60 Lincoln Premier
(2)62 Tbirds
(3)68 Cougar XR7-G's
69 Cougar 428CJ 4 speed
77 1/2 Ford F250 4X4 w/460 swap
86 SVO mustang
76 F250 Crew Cab
1969 Mach I
look at my cars past and present at superford!

 
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THANX HAWKROD!

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August 2 2006, 3:10 PM 

I understand fully now...

 
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You guys are Da Bomb!!!

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August 2 2006, 8:20 PM 

I just wanted to say a big thumbs up for all of the help with my Bird. I've been posting on three or four forums with no success. You are the first car guys to answer my questions. Thanks a lot guys!!!! And I think I will check out the new forum. I hope to see ya there. P.S. You guys ROCK!!!

 
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