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N.Korea army food

July 16 2005 at 9:46 PM
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HBN  (Login HBN2025)
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lol

still believe in N.Korea army is starving to death?













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July 16 2005, 9:48 PM 



who does he think he is ?


Don't try this at home lads

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July 16 2005, 9:50 PM 

Of course Chief cook of N.Korea armed forces


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July 16 2005, 9:50 PM 

Dam man plenty of food there hehe

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July 16 2005, 9:51 PM 


I bet the food is made of plastic !


 
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July 16 2005, 9:51 PM 

propaganda.

 
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July 16 2005, 9:58 PM 

It is not doubted that the government employees are eating, the 100,000 civilians that are in concentration camps for be accused of questioning the state are not eating so well.

Not like I care though, I think we can all agree they brought it upon themselves.

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July 16 2005, 10:02 PM 

Of course Kim gets enough food to throw away to the animals.

 
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July 16 2005, 10:05 PM 

Look, you guys get all pissed off when facing the reality of N.Korea Army, heihei.

You guys might thought the N.Korean's are eating tree's, no?

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July 16 2005, 10:08 PM 


Ì wonder why all the officers around BIG HEAD KIM look so hungry? Perhaps because that is the firstd ecent food they seen for a very long time !


 
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July 16 2005, 10:08 PM 

i've heard he feeds his army really well(but not the people)

Have you noticed in the pictures, the soldiers are like sticks! do they even eat food?(except the two cooks, they look kinna O.K)


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July 16 2005, 10:10 PM 


We all know that North Korea is the breadbasket of the world. br />




    
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July 16 2005, 10:14 PM 

The fact is that you are answering a question that no one asked or should have not asked, HBN, it is commonly known that the only way to live a decent life in North Korea is to be a government employee, and not even that is a guarantee.

Hell, the North Koreans have sold on the black market food aid from other countries, it does'nt get to where it belongs. North Korea's best fields are devoted to the production of opium, so as long as Kim & Krew are fat and fvcked up your propaganda cannot hide what is going on in that backwards sh!thole blemish on the face of the earth and mankind.

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July 16 2005, 10:16 PM 

"i've heard he feeds his army really well(but not the people)

Have you noticed in the pictures, the soldiers are like sticks! do they even eat food?(except the two cooks, they look kinna O.K)"

euhm, you're saying two opposite things in 2 phrases !


Don't try this at home lads

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"Of course we knew it would be a tuff fight. The little Viets are our tiny cousins. They are practically Chinese but only much shorter."

 
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July 16 2005, 10:19 PM 

Like sticks? If so, because of training, by training you lose all your useless fatties

And Apex, don't worry, N.Korea is not starving, look at those reality food pictures again, don't get your head brainwashed by your propaganda media's


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July 16 2005, 10:22 PM 

euhm, you're saying two opposite things in 2 phrases !

LOL
well i don't agree with these pictures coming directly from Propaganda ministry, But i don't think an army “starved to death” can fight at all and obviously North-Korean leaders know that very well.
what i said about their food is not my idea:


take a look
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/12/opinion/12kristof.html?

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July 16 2005, 10:24 PM 

Like sticks? If so, because of training, by training you lose all your useless fatties

They can't even hold a gun for god’s sake! How do they want to fight? With Mind power????


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July 16 2005, 10:26 PM 


With all do respect most of them are senior officers they will not fight at the front, eventhough the front someday may reach them.


 
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July 16 2005, 10:30 PM 

It is impossible to take you seriously but I will try anyway.

Testimony of 200 North Korean Refugees


North Korean children suffering from malnutrition

Due to severe famines, human flesh is reportedly being sold on the black market in North Korea. When the sellers are found, they are publicly executed. Starvation in North Korea appears to have reached a point where people are abandoning their humanity. Most North Koreans today are facing a hopeless situation. Kim Jong Il's policy of executing people involved in selling human flesh is another example of his efforts to "control by terror" people who are desperate to survive. The Kim regime appears to be on the verge of collapse.

The North Korean people harvest rice and corn in the fall and potatoes in January and February. By the time May and June come around, those crops are scarce and serious famine hits the nation. Since the Iraqi war, North Korea has been under martial law, which has made it impossible for world news media to report on its status. However, a recent report by the North Korean Refugees Assistance Fund (NKRA) contains the testimony of 200 North Korean witnesses and tells of the disastrous starvation the face. The NKRA was established five years ago in China near the border with North Korea as a non-government organisation. The task of the NKRA is to provide assistance for North Korean refugees. Hiroshi Kato, the Secretary General of the NKRA, heads up the organisation, building networks for supplying food and medicine to the North Korean people.

Meats are precious food for the North Koreans. However, on the black farmer's market, live pigs, goats, chickens and rabbits can be found. Sometimes, pork and mutton are also available. Those meats are expensive. Only privileged people such as local executives of the governing Labour Party and high-ranking military officials or smugglers who make money from the trade with China can afford them. In some corners of the black market, pieces of special meat are displayed on straw mats for sale. People know where they came from, however, they do not speak about it. One refugee said:

"Oil from animal meat coagulates and becomes round in shape, however, that of human flesh coagulates and takes the shape of a diamond."

The sale of human flesh is expanding beyond the granary regions. The same witness said,

"If a funeral takes place during the day and the burial is performed that evening, the grave may be dug open and the body stolen before morning. Such incidents happen often. The stolen body is cut into pieces and sold on the black market. This is why people conduct funerals in the evening and bury the dead bodies at midnight. People cannot steal them during the day because other people are watching. Also, the dead bodies lose freshness over night, which makes it difficult to market them."

The North Korean police department has issued an order banning daytime funerals and executes publicly anyone involved in the sale of human flesh.

A 54-year-old North Korean refugee named Lee escaped from his country with his granddaughter. He said:

"My two grandsons, ages 11 and 8, were sacrificed for the survival of other North Koreans, On the day I discovered that my grandsons were missing, I visited other houses searching, but I could not find them. I asked my grandsons' friends where they were. They said that my grandsons disappeared near the black market."

The next day, Mr Lee visited the black market. He met the parents of his grandsons' friends who were missing as well. They too were searching for their sons. They told Mr Lee that their sons disappeared at a noodle restaurant near the black market. Mr Lee reported the problem to the police department. The police raided the noodle restaurant and found human hands and feet in a pot of kimchi, Korean pickles. Police also found human bones in a garbage pit in the backyard. The female owner of the noodle restaurant confessed that she had served noodle to the children and had invited them to stand by a stove to get warm. When they fell asleep, she killed them with an axe.

The murderers were shot in public.

On May 30, 2000, a Mr Lee was arrested by the Chinese law enforcement authority while looking for a ship to South Korea after reaching a Chinese city. According to North Korean criminal law, people who escape from the country are sent to concentration camps for seven years for compulsory labour. They may be sentenced to death without a trial. When the Chinese police forcefully send them back to North Korean, those escapees are treated as political criminals. In labour camps, pregnant women are not allowed to bear their children. Mr Lee said:

"In the camp, there were 94 women, 24 of them pregnant. When I was sent there, eight pregnant women received an injection. Meanwhile, they groaned and started going into labour."

Mr Lee remembers what happened there vividly. The name of the doctor was Lee Min Chol. The doctor asked Mr Lee to help with the childbirths. Mr Lee said:

"I was told to place the newborn babies into a table-sized white wooden box. I saw two dead babies in the box. He also told me to throw the umbilical cords into a garbage can. Two newborn babies were still alive. The doctor told me to separate them from their mothers. When I placed them into the wooden box, they were crying and moving their hands and feet. Then, an old doctor came in and hit them in the head with a scissor. The babies died immediately."

Mr Lee fainted.

He was injected with a restorative and ordered to continue with the work. He found that the remaining six babies were killed. At 8:00pm, the work was over and the wooden box which contained 10 dead babies was removed by a security guard. Mr Lee said:

"After the forceful births, the women were moved to work on cutting grass without being treated for bleeding."

In North Korea, rice distribution is limited to executives of the Labour Party or military forces. Soldiers eat corn and ordinary people eat a gruel made from powdered corn stalks. Humanitarian aid sent by foreign countries does not reach starving North Koreans. The World Food Program (WFP) announced assistance in the form of 510,000-tons of rice and other crops. South Korea and the US pledged food aid of 450,000 tonnes and 100,000 tonnes of crops respectively this year. When food aid from other countries enters North Korea, WFP or non-government organisation staff go to North Korea with the shipments. They try to insure that the food reaches ordinary North Korean citizens. They make videotapes and showed them to the world as proof of performance.

However, the North Koreans can not eat food donated by foreign countries. Mr Kim who lived in a Chinese city said:

"When food aid arrives, people find out about by word of mouth. They can prove that it exists because they see that the food is brought to warehouses. They expect that the food will be rationed to them."

The rationing is actually done. One representative of each family stands in line to receive rice or corn.

"However, when night comes, leaders of people's groups and clerks of the Labour Party visit each home and take all of the rationed food back. They say to each family, 'Let's feed the sons and daughters who are starving and fighting on the front line.'"

The food donated by foreign countries is called "rice for patriots" and transformed into food for military forces.

Ms Pak, a 45-year-old woman farmer, received a sudden visit from six young soldiers one day. They asked her to boil corn that they brought. Several days after, the six soldiers brought a baby pig and asked her to do the same thing. It was obvious that they stole the food since such food is not provided to ordinary soldiers. If caught, they would be court-marshaled. The soldiers gave enough pork to Ms Pak so she would keep her mouth shut and devoured the rest.

When Ms Pak and her family and friends went on a trip to another city by truck, they were stopped by a soldier. They took what was loaded on the truck and their money as a "toll." When they reached their destination, they found that they had lost almost everything. Ms Pak remarked:

"The soldiers were robbers. Also, they kill people. People do not report their crimes to the police. So, they feel that they can take everything from us. When the soldiers brought corn and a pig to me, I didn't want to get involved with them. However, if I did not do it for them, I would have been killed."

Internal Criticism of Kim Jong Il

No matter how desperately North Korean leader Kim Jong Il engages in developing nuclear weapons and threatening Japan, the US and South Korea, it is certain that his one million People's Army is collapsing. Mr Kim is losing control over them. In October of last year, an adjutant captain from a North Korean submarine escaped to China. Also, a couple of high-ranking officers in the North Korean People's Army left their country and sought political asylum in China.

The North Korean People's Army consists of 12 divisions. Headquarters, the military political bureau, and the military logistics bureau keep watch over them. Mr Kato, a military analyst said:

"Each division is financially independent. It has to acquire all of its own equipment, fuel, foods, shoes, uniforms and blankets for their soldiers. The Trading Section of the Logistic Bureau of each division is responsible for financing and distributing these supplies. The Trading Section has enormous power. It has many interests with suppliers including foreign trading firms. Therefore, the Trading Section staff commit fraud in managing foreign currencies or dealing with foreign trading companies. Those who lose power struggles escape to China before they are sent to concentration camps."

According to one Chinese trading businessman in the NKAF report, several North Korean commanders were sent to China in order to purchase military supplies. A Chinese trading firm invited them to dinner. After alcohol had loosened their lips, they said:

"That man is filling his own pockets, but soldiers are starving. He is so involved with women that he doesn't even think of getting comfortable shoes for his soldiers. He is ignoring soldiers who are dying from starvation. He doesn't care."

It was easy for Chinese traders to identify whom they were talking about although they didn't name him. It was the "Supreme Commander-in-Chief Kim Jong Il."

In reality, it is reported that due to starvation, beriberi and epidemics such as tuberculosis are spreading among North Korean soldiers. Five percent of soldiers in each brigade (a troop with 1,000 to 2,000 soldiers) are in the hospital. The World Health Organisation (WHO) is warning that if SARS spreads to North Korea where people's nutrition condition is very bad, it would be disastrous. North Korea is also suffering from gasoline and heavy oil shortages. Therefore, military tanks and vehicles are incapacitated. The North Korean fighting capability has declined enormously. The possibility of North Korea self-destructing is increasing.

Koreans "Selling Human Flesh"

Tokyo - Starving North Koreans are turning to cannibalism to survive, and farmers have been ordered to grow opium for state-endorsed overseas sale, a maker of television documentaries has claimed. Carla Garapedian, producer of Children of the Secret State, a BBC - Channel 4 co-production, said film smuggled out of North Korea and interviews with refugees revealed "acts of unspeakable barbarism not seen since Pol Pot's Cambodia."

"[The] footage is shocking. Starving children abandoned by the state. Orphans thrown into state asylums and left to die," Garapedian wrote in an opinion article in Japan's daily Yomiuri newspaper. Worse, she said, were the drawings of 15-year-old Jang Gil-su, who with his family fled North Korea into China. Though he is still in hiding, Jang has been recording his experiences of everyday life in his former country, where millions of people are understood to have starved to death. The pictures, given to Garapedian by a refugee support group in Seoul, depict families eating pine bark, rats, snakes and anything else to stay alive. One shows a man at a market stall, with Jang captioning it: "Man selling human flesh [saram hoki] at a farmers' market in Hoeroung city."

"All of the North Koreans we interviewed knew about it. Jang's picture of a dismembered child in a cooking pot says more than any of the numbing statistics," Garapedian wrote. Independent verification of the practice is difficult because Hoeroung city is impossible to visit or contact in the secretive country. Garapedian said she had spoken to farmers who claimed to have been barred from growing food and instead ordered to grow opium. "The opium would then be processed by the state into heroin and then sold abroad. The proceeds would go to arm the military."

North Korean officials could not be contacted for comment.




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July 16 2005, 10:31 PM 

Those mere food ingredients can't support the fact that NK soldiers are well fed. It seems like those foods alone can only feed about 1 regiment. But instead, think of a battlefield situation. Would soldier just camp out and make a gourmet meal out of those ingredients? You need something like MREs that American soldiers eat.

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