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Top 10 hardest special forces training

September 29 2005 at 9:57 PM
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Anonymous  (Login FE3T)
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Which country has the highest qualifications for its Special Forces?
(US won't get #1 because Asian countries have been known to actually lose acolytes during training)

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Re: Top 10 hardest special forces training

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September 29 2005, 10:03 PM 

"Asian countries have been known to actually lose acolytes during training"
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Doesn't necessarily mean that the Asians have implemented the best SF training...could just mean that the SF recruits health are being relatively neglected in comparison to some Western nations during exercises..but I could be wrong.

And I would have to know alot about most nations SF's to compile such a list..

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Anonymous
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September 29 2005, 10:07 PM 

1.SAS
2.Foreign Legion
3.KSK
4.Commando Yami
5.Austratian SAS
6.GIGN
7.Kampfschwimmer
8.GSG 9
9.Alpini
10.Korps Commando Troepen



 
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September 30 2005, 12:11 AM 

US training is in the top 10.

 
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September 30 2005, 12:28 AM 

US training is in the top 10.

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September 30 2005, 1:20 AM 

1.SAS
2.Foreign Legion
3.KSK
4.Commando Yami
5.Austratian SAS
6.GIGN
7.Kampfschwimmer
8.GSG 9
9.Alpini
10.Korps Commando Troepen


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Anonymous
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September 30 2005, 2:06 AM 


I agree with most of yours choices, but I heard North Korean Special Forces are pretty well trained.

 
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September 30 2005, 2:18 AM 

I'd like to say something about China's special operations forces, China does have special operations forces HOWEVER they are extremely SECRET, without even a name, (except for the frogman group), they have been known to be EXTREMELY well trained and are the best out of the 2 million military personnel currently servicing our country. Its just no one has heard of them and there are absolutely no info regarding them thats why they don't seem to be in the competition.



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Babak
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September 30 2005, 3:32 AM 

Does North Korea have food to feed its soldiers??

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September 30 2005, 3:38 AM 

They use all there food to feed their soldiers.

 
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Rusland
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September 30 2005, 4:50 AM 

N.Korea vs S.Korea





 
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September 30 2005, 4:53 AM 

Oh no, not the beer!

Oh it's that god-awful Hite... Well he can sink a whole oil tanker full of that piss water for all I care. lol



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Anonymous
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September 30 2005, 5:05 AM 

@Rusland
isn't the first picture a PLA soldier (not special force)?


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Rusland
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September 30 2005, 5:10 AM 

really dont know.get this from google with no sign under...

 
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September 30 2005, 5:21 AM 

Quote:
1.SAS
2.Foreign Legion
3.KSK
4.Commando Yami
5.Austratian SAS
6.GIGN
7.Kampfschwimmer
8.GSG 9
9.Alpini
10.Korps Commando Troepen



Foreign legion is an army force (2 REP is the special force within), GIGN is a special force and is definitely more skilled. Some years ago, some terrorists (working in collaboration with russian agents) kipdnapped french kids at the border of somalia. GIGN was called in to the rescue and has to work with the foreign legion, all the skilled and hardest jobs were handled flawlessly by GIGN, the legion role was to prevent the somalian army from helping the terrorists. Technically speaking GIGN training and skills are way above the legions in close combats but the legion did a great jobs destroying the somalian army and also managed to kill one of the russian agent. The sniper jobs and rescuing were done by GIGN, all terrorists in the bus were shot dead simultaneously after the french kids were induced to sleep by the food brought in. One terrorist was outside the bus, unfortunately he was missed by the FFL, and managed to kill one kid, GIGN snipers didn;t miss him. FFL then had to secure the area and beat the hell out of somalian army at that they did a great job. But strictly speaking, GIGN is way above anything in any army, they have a free hand to act and they are an independent section having their own intellignce network. probably the only unit that can equal GIGN in certain field would be the british SAS. And hey the french chassseur pwn the Alpini during WW2.
Hhahahaha, while the french army was crumbling in the north, the italian backstabb France launching an invasion in the south. The only troops in the region were the highly skilled Chasseur alpin (perhaps the best troop in France). They knew the mountain by heart, and a small groups of would beat the italians, in one case 5 chasseurs rounding nearly 100 italians troops.





More recent news, GIGN just raided islamists houses in France arresting 9 terrorists who were planning to blow french metro. And more recently, GIGN were called in to kick the @ss of some strikers who hijack a ship in corsica. GIGN intelligence are known to release terrorists so that they can track them down and extract info from them.

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September 30 2005, 5:26 AM 

Spetsnaz not in there?

That pic is amazing.

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September 30 2005, 8:47 AM 



Special Forces Training for most part of the World is pretty much Equal so its kinda pointless comparing how tough one is over the other... Most Army SF have based theres along the lines of the SAS or USSF ..most navies have copied the US Navy Seals..

for Example Here is India's

THe NSG was directly raised by and patterend along the lines of GSG-9

The Navy MARCOS was Raised by the US NAVY Seals AND the Royal Marine Commandoes SBS ( The first batch was trained at both Institutions)

THe Indian Army SF got its Initial Training/Doctrine from none other than the British SAS.

the SFF (special Frontier Force) got its Training and Doctrine from the US Special Forces and the CIA SOGs

DELTA of the US Army was raised along the lines of the British SAS.

Pakistan on the other hand with the SSG is purely American influenced while the NSSG (naval) has its influences from American, Iran and Turkey.

With so much cross training and methods being learnt and re-written most SF units in the world are pretty much the same .

Even for the most part the equipment is pretty Equal ( Depends on your pocket ofcourse)..

What matters in the end ofcourse is Backup support and Experience..





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roland
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September 30 2005, 9:09 AM 

Foreign Legion are NOT Special Forces.

Still there training is pretty hard (Djibouti, French Guyana)

Not sure GIGN is that hard. Very technical but not very hard physically.

Better look at 1er RPIMa for the army or "Commado de Marine" like Commando HUBERT for the Navy.




 
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September 30 2005, 9:14 AM 


I don't think Special forces training are pretty standard world wide. Each SF trains according to their respective experience, there are similarities as well as differences. SF are always trying new maneuver. they definitely don't have the same rule of engagement, for instance GIGN are sometime require to disable a target rather than killing the target, this practice would not be acceptable in another country.

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September 30 2005, 9:37 AM 

Well i doubt if many of us know sufficient detail about individual
training methods to know if one nation
'has the edge'

However, i notice people dismiss the americans, i think they
have one distinct advantage when it comes to 'special' operations.

Resources, not just the ever present support,
but the ability to specialise within a narrow field.




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