Rifles/Machine Guns Small Arms

Hakim (lg.42) 7.9x57mm


Al Rashid Carbine 7.62/39mm


Msir (AKM)7.62/39mm


RPM/RPL 7.62/39
20inch barrel with bipod
(this is a civillian model military one has no thumbhole)


Alfa Machine Gun 7.9x57mm


FnMag 7.62/51N




Submachine Guns and Pistols

Port Said Maadi Akaba

Both along with rashid and hakim rifles were copies of swedish weapons, the akaba was a simply made Port Said, the Port said was a copy of the swedish Karl gustav sub in 9mm Parabellum.

The Helwan (Beretta M1951)





anti Tank/anti air and artillery

122mm d-30 (Local production from 1960s on)


130mm m1930 (local production from 1960's on)





Both of these guns are outfitted with modern anti tank rounds

Patria GH-52 155mm



(this is a 52 cal gun capable of reaching 47KM range!)

Swingfire Missile




several different RPG rounds





Sakr Eye

Sakr Family of Rockets




Amoun



vehicles


The Walid


The Fahd


The Following are Modifications to existing vehicles in (or formerly in )
Egyptian service

the M109/sp122


t-54 Ramsees
(cant Find!!!!)

t-62 (with heavy rocket sakr)

Sherman with amx-13


t-34-100mm!



t-34-122mm Tank destroyer


t-34-122 (syrian self propelled artillery Nations were merged in time frame)


EIFV (m-113 with bradley turret)

This is being done with between US United Defense and Egyptian Ministry of Military Production and will Not mean the phase out of m-113s, the M-113 will serve in other formations other than Infantry.
This will eventually be transfered totally to Egyptian Manufactured not assembled.

Skyguard 23mm

NileGuard 23mm

And Last But Not least Co-production agreements with the US for the

M1a1 tank

m88RCV


Miscellenous projects


Passive decoy system



designed to counter infared/tv and radar guided missiles



Aircraft


Egypt Flew the First Arab Aircraft in 1952!!!




Egypt Then With Spain designed Built (inside Egypt 100%)
HA-200


This was built in two models, one was purely a trainer, the other was a single seat ground attack aircraft.

Then Again with Spain another Spanish design that needed funding


This is willy messerschmidts last aircraft design, it featured the Talented Austrian Designer Ferdinand Bradner who worked for Heinkel in WW2 design of an engine.

The Plan was for Egypt and to a lesser extent India to use the Bradner
designed engine, This later was used by India alone in its HAL Marut Fighter bomber.






sadly due to the Israeli sneak attack of 1967 Egypt needed funds to rebuild its airforce, which was mauled on the ground.


What might have been as the Aircraft in its early pre-production form flew and did break mach 1.5.


now on to Aircraft assembled and Co-Produced in Egypt

it assembled Tucano primary trainers from Brazil, Chenyang f-7 fighters from China, and Alpha Jet trainers and fighter bombers from France.


Egypt has built the wings of the Mirage 2000

Egypt Formerly built the SNECMA Atar 9c or b jet engine of the Mirage 3-5


Last but Not Least Egypt is Building the k-8E with China basicaly egypt is building the aircrafts body and avionics with chinese liscence and fitting it with a Garnett Engine!

Yes lets please not Compare Pakistan with Egypt or any other arab state!

mumtaz

I was amazed at how similar the Marut (designed by Kurt tank) and he HA-300 (by Messerschmidt) are so similar looking. Guess it was just a coincidence or the fact that they came to the same conclusions for similar requirements. plus, the fact that they worked together might have layed a role.


"The Plan was for Egypt and to a lesser extent India to use the Bradner
designed engine, This later was used by India alone in its HAL Marut Fighter bomber."

This is a bit more detailed history of the Indo-Egyptian Cooperation

Rather than shelve the entire Marut programme, the Indian Government decided to order 18 pre-production aircraft powered by the underpowered Orpheus 703 engine in late 1962 followed by 62 similarly powered production examples. After the Orpheus project was closed down in England, the govt. began looking for other engines.

After the Tumansky RD-9F was rejected, the E-300 turbojet, designed under Egyptian Government contract by Ferdinand Brandner (an Austrian repatriate from the Soviet Union), was considered. In 1962 it was believed that a version with a smaller afterburner, the EL-300 affording 9240 lbs. (4355 kg) thrust, could be developed for the HF-24.

The E-300 was a relatively simple lightweight engine with a nine-stage compressor and a two-stage turbine. The engine was expected to afford 10,580 lbs. (4800 kg) thrust with 40% afterburning augmentation.

So on 2 November 1964, a collaboration agreement was signed in Cairo. Twenty months later, in July 1966, the Indian Government furnished a specially modified pre-production Marut, designated HF-24 Mk 1 BX, to participate in the Egyptian engine development programme. This aircraft had a modified fuselage capable of accepting either the Orpheus 703 or the EL-300. Test flying of the HF-24 Mk 1 BX with one E-300 and one Orpheus began at Helwan, Egypt, on 29 March 1967 with Sqn. Ldr. I.M. Chopra at the controls.

Until the EL-300 program came to a standstill after the June 1967 Arab-Israeli conflict, the HF-24 Mk I BX had completed 106 hours of flight testing in 150 flights. The EL-300, unfortunately, failed to live up to earlier expectations and with two power plants of this type installed, the HF-24 Mk 1 BX was unable to exceed Mach 1.1.

The Indian Government eventually became disenchanted with the entire programme and on 1 July 1969, the Indian test team was recalled from Egypt. The test aircraft, however, was presented to the Egyptian Govt.



I think this is the modified Marut aircraft.. especially liked the modified front undercarriage. (Is it the Marut?? if not, what aircraft is it?).



Gandhiji's Talisman:

I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him. Will he gain anything by it? Will it restore him to a control over his own life and destiny ? In other words, will it lead to Swaraj (i.e. self-rule) for the hungry and spiritually starving millions ?

Then you will find your doubts and your self melting away.

any commerical sucess of these arms??? any exports?

exports are generally a good baraometer of quality



The orginal "Malu" slayers...

No 19 Squadron pilots who struck Pathankot on 6 September 1965 destroying all of India's eight new Mig-21, with squadron commander 'Nosey' Haider standing third from right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHlzP69n9c>

double post

there is some resemblance however the egyptian aircraft is far far smaller. This is the Ha-300 al qahira (cairo resident)It was as small as a f-5 including weight with the intention of a good turn radius and mach 2 capability











This is indian Hal marut






here is more on ha-300

http://aviationfans.com/?q=node/4


Specifications
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 12.40 m (40.7 ft)
Wingspan: 5.84 m (19.16 ft)
Height: 3.15 m (10.33 ft)
Wing area: 16.70 m² (179.75 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,100 kg (4,629 lb)
Loaded weight: 5,443 kg (12,000 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Bristol-Siddeley Orpheus Mk 703 turbojet, 21,6 kN (4850 lbs)
Alternate powerplant: 1× Brandner E-300 turbojet (fitted to the third flying prototype)
Thrust with afterburner: 10,580 lbs
Performance
Maximum speed: 1,146 knots (2,124 km/h)
Range: 755 nm (870 m, 1400 km)
Service ceiling: 39,370 ft (12,000 m)
Rate of climb: 203 m/s (4,593 ft/s)

Here is Marut

eneral characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 15.87 m (52 ft 1 in)
Wingspan: 9.00 m (29 ft 6 in)
Height: 3.60 m (11 ft 10 in)
Wing area: 28 m² (300 ft²)
Empty weight: 6,195 kg (13,660 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 10,908 kg (24,048 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Bristol-Siddeley Orpheus Mk 703 turbojet, 21.6 kN (4,850 lbf) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 1,128 km/h (609 knots, 701 mph)
Range: 800 km (430 nm, 500 mi)
Service ceiling: 13,750 m (45,100 ft)
Armament
Guns: 4× 30 mm (1.18 in) ADEN cannon
Hardpoints: 4 with a capacity of 1,800 kg (4,000 lb),
Rockets: 48× 2.65 in (67 mm) rockets




You see Marut = 13K lbs empty 2 engines =
Al Qahira = 4,000 lbs empty 1 engine =

immagine for a momment the Egyptians had these in 1973

an airforce that looks like this


90 HA-300
200 Mig-21
300 Mig-19


strike/bomber
tu-16 20
il-28 80
su-7 60
Hal Marut 40 (non alligned movement purchases from eachother)

100 ha-300 Ground attack variant 4x23mm guns!
150 ha-200 GAV 4x23


An armored force of


t-62
t-55

t-34 auxillery roles

14.5mm and/or 115mm recoiless armed walid armored cars




btr-50 / pt-76
it would have really been something man!

Looks quite different





____________________________________________________
Money doesn't bring happiness.
.... just a much better standard of misery!

However it was sad that Egypt unable to back to its own feet thanks to lackeys like Sadat and Mubarak.

I have an idea: Egypt now is making K-8 Karokaraam under license from China. My idea would be resurrecting HA-300; this time with totally revised design.

What do you think? A plane in class of JF-17...suitable for African countries, easy to maintain, etc.

//"immagine for a momment the Egyptians had these in 1973"//

Arab equipment instead of free soviet handouts?
As an Israeli, I gotta agree. If only...

That Al-Rashid is very unusual looking, kind of the bastard child of an M1 Carbine and an SKS. Is it blowback operateed, or is there a gas tube hidden under the forward upper furniture? I really like the look of the Hakim, I'll probably pick one up sometime.

edit: Wikipedia says that the Rashid carbine operates on direct impingement, so I assume the gas port/tube are under teh wood. I hope the Egyptians had some seriously clean burning ammo back then. Using that thing with old-school corrosive, Soviet bloc ammo would be a real bitch.

wrong gabe

its far more powerful than a m-1 carbine, and its the bastard son of the sks and lungjman.


it has a small variable gas pressure selector block built in, able to handle the various loads of cartriges.

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