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(pics) Air defense exercise Sweden for intl ops

May 17 2008 at 2:57 PM
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The NBG unit practiced defending Gothenburg harbor simulating a international deployment with mobile equipment.



Intelligence Unit 23 (Giraffe 3D AMB with command stations) supports the fire units with precision targeting at long range:

If the Giraffe AMB is inoperative the Fire units can use their own sensors.



RobotSystem 23 BAMSE - Medium AD, multisensor, all weather high speed high agility defense against guided missiles, Stealth vehicles, Jets etc, missiles reach > 3000 Kph after just 1 s.



RobotSystem 70 - Laser guided SHORAD, jam free, against helicopters, jets





RobotSystem 97 HAWK - High altitude AD, Swedish specific version upgraded 2006, focus on destroying jammer aircraft.

That's the stuff that was in the exercise.....



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Pretty Inpressive stuff Sig!!!

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May 18 2008, 3:14 PM 

Thanks.


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May 18 2008, 8:48 PM 

Great pictures again Sig; especially the Giraffe AMD. Singapore has integrated the Giraffe AMD(together with other sensors) into her layered air defence system linked to upgraded I-HAwks, rapier MK2s, RBS-70s, etc. The I-hawks have been digitally upgraded to tackle multiple projectiles simultaneously at 40km upwards. It is an interim measure till a new mid-high AD system is purchased; possibly the Aster 30 SMPT in the next few years. The rapier MK2s are to be replaced by the Israeli Spyder 15km short range system if media reports are true. RBS-70s will be replaced as well plus a new anti-ballistic missile system will be bought. New systems will be purchased in stages. However, the sensors and other C2/C3/C4I systems would be purchased separately(where needed) and domestically integrated. The Giraffe AMD will certainly be a part of the new system.

Has not BAMSE been shelved due to budgetory reasons?

 
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May 18 2008, 8:58 PM 

the RS 70 kicks a$$

I had the chance to try one out against a drone & it was realy easy to adquir, folow & destroy the target.

all you had to do was to mantain a little cross in a view screen over the desired target.

 
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May 18 2008, 10:29 PM 

justin,

Cool info thanks.. always interesting to hear about Singapore's defense.

Hm BAMSE is a "working demonstrator" and not in a operative unit.. but the air defense regiment has received the first amount of ready-to-use systems and we now train conscripts on them and the military has requested to make the system operative but the gov is not sure (they flip every coin to see where can the military be more cost effective) Which most people don't understand.

The main difference from a operative unit is that it can't be submitted to EU/UN operations with a fixed readiness time.. some kind of weird politics at work... so maybe 1 more year of uncertainty.



And yeah the RBS70 is supposed to be very easy, I remember a article last year when we had Irish guys come over for their first ever firing... they had only read manuals and tried out the simulator with no ability to shoot live in Ireland (for what ever reason). But everyone of them got successful hits on drone targets on the first try with the real system !



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May 18 2008, 11:38 PM 

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Hm BAMSE is a "working demonstrator" and not in a operative unit.. but the air defense regiment has received the first amount of ready-to-use systems and we now train conscripts on them and the military has requested to make the system operative but the gov is not sure (they flip every coin to see where can the military be more cost effective) Which most people don't understand.

The main difference from a operative unit is that it can't be submitted to EU/UN operations with a fixed readiness time.. some kind of weird politics at work... so maybe 1 more year of uncertainty.



I have to admit that Bamse has the potential to be a great selling system in the tradition of the RBS-70. I note that the range has been increased from 15km to 20km. I remembered seeing 15km range previously. Recent articles I`ve read denotes the max range of 20km. That would put it somewhere between the longer ranged Patriots Pac 1/2/MEADs/Asters and the new Crotale Mk3 and Israeli Spyder Shorad systems with approximately 15km ranges. Pretty neat if your forces have no use for mid-high end systems. Just buy one system for your shorad and medium end needs.

 
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