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Interrogation video of tearful Khadr released

July 15 2008 at 12:03 PM
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Interrogation video of tearful Khadr released

Updated Tue. Jul. 15 2008 6:32 AM ET

The Canadian Press Link

TORONTO -- Wrenching video of a teenaged Omar Khadr under interrogation by a Canadian spy service agent at Guantanamo Bay was released early Tuesday on the Internet.

The 10 minutes of video -- selected by his lawyers from more than seven hours of footage -- shows the 16-year-old Khadr weeping, his face buried in his hands.

In one section, the agent accuses Khadr of using his injuries and emotional state to avoid the interrogation.

"You see, you're not going to believe me,'' Khadr says.

"Well, look me straight in the eyes and tell me that you're being honest.''

"I am being honest.''

"You can't even bear to look at me when you're saying that.''

"Why I can't bear to look at you?''

"You know -- put your hand down.''

"No, you don't care about me.''

Khadr is accused by the U.S. military of throwing a grenade that killed an American soldier during a firefight in Afghanistan in July 2002.

He was just 15 when he was found in the rubble of a bombed-out compound -- badly wounded and near death.

The remarkable footage from February 2003 was made public under Canadian court orders and offers an unprecedented glimpse into an interrogation by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.

It shows Khadr at times calm, at other times in despair, and at other times seemingly resigned and indifferent.

At one point in the interrogation, Khadr pulls off the top of orange prison uniform and shows the wounds he sustained in the firefight from six months earlier.

He complains he can't move his arms and says he had requested, but hadn't received, proper medical attention.

"They look like they're healing well to me,'' the agent says of the injuries.

"No, I'm not. You're not here (at Guantanamo),'' Khadr whimpers.

At another point, Khadr complains about his vision, saying, "I lost my eyes.''

"No, you still have your eyes. Your feet are still at the end of your legs.''

Later on in the tape, a distraught Khadr is seen rocking, his face in his hands.

"Help me,'' he sobs repeatedly in despair.

The interrogation takes place over three days.

On the final day, the agent tells Khadr that he was "very disappointed'' in how Khadr had behaved, and tries to impress upon him that he should co-operate.

Khadr says he wants to go back to Canada.

"There's not anything I can do about that,'' the agent says. "I want to stay in Cuba with you. The weather is nice -- no snow.''

The video camera was hidden in a vent and some of the audio is of poor quality, and can barely be made out.

 
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July 15 2008, 12:04 PM 

All I gotta say is "cry me a fcuking river"... So he was done playing Jihad and wanted to go home? Boo fcuking hoo...

 
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July 16 2008, 5:58 AM 


Every Muslim is terrorist when engaging himself/herself in a war against invading army. GOD BLAST U-ASS-A!


 
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July 16 2008, 6:53 AM 

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All I gotta say is "cry me a fcuking river"... So he was done playing Jihad and wanted to go home? Boo fcuking hoo...


I know tell me about it. I was thinking the same when Iranian forces
twice captured british soldiers who were "done" playing valiant soldiers!
And I also thought the same when the ppl at the american (spy den) embassy
were held prisoned when they felt they were done playing imperialists!



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July 16 2008, 9:13 AM 

I dont think he's guilty btw In Indonesia the captured terrorists always pride with what has they done..

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July 16 2008, 11:32 AM 

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Every Muslim is terrorist when engaging himself/herself in a war against invading army. GOD BLAST U-ASS-A!


Speaking of invaders... Khadr is a Canadian... I guess all forms of invaders on both sides get what's coming to them right?

He had no reason to be in Afghanistan. It wasn't his country.

 
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July 16 2008, 1:32 PM 

Mani, with respect, embassy hostages held for 444 days is hardly the same thing.

I do have a question, however, and that is what the hell was a 15 year old Canadian doing in Afghanistan involved in a firefight with US forces to begin with?




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July 16 2008, 4:24 PM 

"I know tell me about it. I was thinking the same when Iranian forces
twice captured british soldiers who were "done" playing valiant soldiers!
And I also thought the same when the ppl at the american (spy den) embassy
were held prisoned when they felt they were done playing imperialists!"
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@Nirooo - Hardly a comparison, but then again you are one of those cancers that live in the US, but spew vile against your host country.

Was that little sandroach a licensed combattant? What was he doing in Afghanistan, tourist? What was a 15 yrs old doing with a rifle?

The little Sandroach killed a US military doctor. He is a murderer. His brothers are also being held for weapon smuggling.



 
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July 16 2008, 10:00 PM 

He should not have been a citizen, I don't think he had been in canada since '96, but that being said, they shouldn't be allowed to keep him in a hole for the rest of his life for something that he did when he was 15.

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July 16 2008, 10:03 PM 

"He should not have been a citizen, I don't think he had been in canada since '96, but that being said, they shouldn't be allowed to keep him in a hole for the rest of his life for something that he did when he was 15.

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The "something that he did" was murdering a soldier doing his job!

 
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July 16 2008, 10:30 PM 

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The "something that he did" was murdering a soldier doing his job!



He was in a gunfight in a warzone, that is stretching the definition of murder. But even for that why should he be jailed indefinately? Most people given his circumstances would have done the same thing, there is no denying it.

People of similar ages who did far far worse thigs in groups like RUF have been rehabilitated, it is not like the second you release him he is going to do some terror act no matter what.

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Khadr video polarizes Canadians

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July 16 2008, 11:19 PM 

Khadr video polarizes Canadians
By Gregory Bonnell, THE CANADIAN PRESS

Omar Khadr's Canadian lawyers Nathan Whitling (right) and Dennis Edney address a news conference. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Ian Jackson

TORONTO - Omar Khadr's interrogation video appeared to polarize the Canadian public Tuesday as images his lawyers hoped would stir compassion and push Ottawa into repatriating him from Guantanamo Bay prompted reaction ranging from sympathy to outright contempt.

It's a sign, experts said, of the tension between the Khadr family's reputation as an al-Qaida family and public support for the rule of due judicial process - something even the U.S. Supreme Court has found lacking in Guantanamo.

That later sentiment was shared by many who posted their opinions on media websites, including one person who wrote: "I am Canadian and I demand that his rights be vigorously enforced. YO! HARPER! Snap to it!"

Another opined: "It makes me sick that people like Robert Pickton, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka have way more rights than this poor boy who was just a kid and did what he was told."

"Omar should be set free."

For every statement of support, however, there were damning words of condemnation aimed at both Khadr and his family.


The late family patriarch, Ahmed Said Khadr, was an associate of Osama bin Laden; the family spent time living in at least one of his compounds. His mother, who now lives in Toronto with Omar Khadr's siblings, has publicly assailed Canada's moral values.

"This kid is a terrorist, plain and simple, and he comes from a terrorist 'al-Qaida' family," read one posting.

Another wrote: "He's a Canadian of convenience... every single (member of the Khadr family) are not real Canadians."

At the Khadr family's home, his sister Zaynab described the vitriol as misplaced.

"People have been blinded with rage, but I think they're putting it in the wrong place," she said.

"I'm not saying my brother is guilty and I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying that what's happening is not right - to an enemy or a friend."

Khadr, 21, is accused by the U.S. of throwing a grenade that killed an American soldier during a firefight in Afghanistan in July 2002. He faces trial before an American military commission in October.

The video, taken some six months after his capture at the age of 15, was released by his lawyers Tuesday as part of their ongoing campaign to have Khadr returned to Canada.

"We're hoping that the Canadian public will recognize that if you put aside any concerns or guilt or innocence... and look at the compassion we feel, that children have a special significance in society," said lawyer Denis Edney.

The Khadr family is held in contempt by many Canadians, but the country's sense of judicial fairness has tempered the anger with sympathy for the prisoner's plight, said University of Toronto law professor Ed Morgan.

"Statements from the Khadr family, all along, have been horrendous. No one would sympathize with what the Khadr family has said," Morgan said.

"The problem here is that the Guantanamo procedures are so roundly criticized, including by the U.S. Supreme Court, that it's hard to be anything but a little sympathetic for people who are confronting what looks like a lack of due process."

The polarized public reaction to the video came as little surprise to Delta Media's Bernie Gauthier, a public relations guru based in Ottawa.

While the footage clearly shows a frustrated teen under stress who lacks the gruff voice one might expect of a soldier, the orange prison jumpsuit and security camera footage might also feed into the public's image of criminality, Gauthier said.

"What we have in our own minds, our own bias and our own judgment that we have, will shape how we interpret the video," he said.

"(Do) we pay more attention to the pleading child and the body language of someone who is frustrated and hurt, or is it the orange jumpsuit and the camera angle that sort of confirms for us what we think about him already?"

Given the strong emotional response from the public to the video, Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae cautioned that Khadr's fate should not be subject to a "popularity contest."

"He was brainwashed and sent in to fight NATO troops. I think we all recognize that's deeply troubling to Canadians," said Rae.

"We have our troops there, obviously it's deeply troubling to all of us. The issue is not that. The issue is, isn't it appropriate for Canada to take responsibility for Mr. Khadr?"

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/War_Terror/2008/07/15/pf-6166221.html




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July 16 2008, 11:23 PM 

If you decided to take party in war, then get prepared for the worst, NEVER surrender nor get captured, so Kadu to Hitler






    
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July 16 2008, 11:32 PM 

@ Randy

Well I dissagree thats in the eye of the beholder. I am
a person who have the perspective from both sides (frustrated
middle easterners who feel like too much meddling is
occuring in their home turf) and the wests perspective (where
both the US and europe are taking a dump on middle easterners
view and opinion).

As a teen I always told my uncles and dad but regardless
of how much "hate" khomeini had for the US why did they
take embassy workers hostage and why did they invade an
embassy which is invasion of foreign territory and against
international law.

Now I truly understand that the breach of International law
and fair play was intitiated by the US governemnt when they
very truthfully did use the american embassy (starting in
the early 50s) as a operational base to direct Iran in
their own wishful path.

Hence in fellow irnaians eyes those ppl were rightfully arrested.
Besides the US did not comply by international standards, norms
and expectations (let alone international laws). Hence why
should the iranian governemtn comply by international norms
and expectations when they were not met by the americans.



@ VG2000 aka wannabe greaseball

read above post and STFU. dude I dont even hold u as high
as the atoms I fart out in the air. I much so appriciate
and am proud to be an Iranian-American. Even the person
who I am debating above can second that. Just becasue I
am proud Iranian-merican doesnt mean I cant have own morals
and opinions u braindead cow fly
So plz STFU and go n jump off a bridge.

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July 16 2008, 11:52 PM 

"He was in a gunfight in a warzone, that is stretching the definition of murder."
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(A)He then cannot clain 'defense" as he willfully entered a warzone putting himself in harms way and which is (B) pre-meditation to kill. Isn't that murder and not manslaughter?

Look, he picked up the handgranade, he pulled the pin and threw it. Now as a cause of his actions, a soldier is dead.


"But even for that why should he be jailed indefinately?"
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Why should he be set free? The soldier whose life he took cannot enjoy his life, why should he? So he can travel to Afghanistan and kill more soldiers?


"Most people given his circumstances would have done the same thing, there is no denying it. "
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Most people do not put themselves into "those circumstances".


 
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July 16 2008, 11:59 PM 

"Well I dissagree thats in the eye of the beholder. I am
a person who have the perspective from both sides (frustrated
middle easterners who feel like too much meddling is
occuring in their home turf) and the wests perspective (where
both the US and europe are taking a dump on middle easterners
view and opinion)."

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You have a perspective from both sides huh?

Quote: "Our western perspective is that we "are taking a dump on middle easterners view and opinion".

That's our view huh?

Well mine is that the west is trying to shed some light in a region of the world darkened by corruption, diparity and vacant in contemporty thinking.

Yes you certainly are very unbiased, but true to your sandroach nature.

 
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July 17 2008, 12:06 AM 

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(A)He then cannot clain 'defense" as he willfully entered a warzone putting himself in harms way and which is (B) pre-meditation to kill. Isn't that murder and not manslaughter?



His family brought him there when he was 10.

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Look, he picked up the handgranade, he pulled the pin and threw it. Now as a cause of his actions, a soldier is dead.



Soldiers do the same thing every day, this means nothing.



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Why should he be set free? The soldier whose life he took cannot enjoy his life, why should he? So he can travel to Afghanistan and kill more soldiers?


See above.

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Most people do not put themselves into "those circumstances".


See my 1st point.

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July 17 2008, 12:18 AM 

whats the answer?

Let him go?

maybe we should just execute him, considering how much it costs the taxpayers to keep ppl in prison.

in an islamic society, there would most likely have put him to death awhile ago.

 
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July 17 2008, 12:19 AM 

His family brought him there when he was 10.
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He was in a firefight with US foldiers 5 years later. He joined/recruited with the taliban and entered a firefight with the intentions of killing.


Soldiers do the same thing every day, this means nothing.
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Oh yes it does. If you are not licensed by your country then you are not afforded the same legal protection that a soldier has.



See above.
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See my 1st point.
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See my Point.

Interesting thought:

Perhaps Canadians would feel differently if the granade was thrown at Canadian soldiers and a few were killed from its blasts.



 
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July 17 2008, 1:51 AM 

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All I gotta say is "cry me a fcuking river"... So he was done playing Jihad and wanted to go home? Boo fcuking hoo...
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My words exactly. Cry me a river. He should have been interrogated in the field and then handed to the "justice" system of legitimate government of Afghanistan.

What happens from there; is their business.

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July 17 2008, 1:32 PM 

Yes, Mani, disagreement is in the eye of the beholder, but in this case there is a world of difference.

I try to understand what it must be like for Iranians living in the US torn between two cultures when their nations are at odds. I may never fully understand, but I try to do so.

Assuming for the sake of argument that you are correct, that the US embassy was used to spy upon and subvert the internal affairs of Iran, there is a way to deal with that. You expel those diplomats, withdraw your own embassy officials from the foreign nation and you break off diplomatic relations. What you do not do is to invade the foreign embassy, kidnap its staff and hold them hostage.

As to abiding by international norms, all embassies throughout the world are engaged to one extent or the other in espionage and the other activities of which you complain. To suggest that the US was engaged in anything not done by all nations is to be deluded by a fantasy.

I’ll not try to convince you that the US has always acted correctly with regard to Iran, because it has not. The kidnaping of diplomats is a very large step, however. To suggest, as you have that it was justified is simply false. You do not kidnap diplomats and hold them hostage, seeking some sort of political gain.

I’ve always wondered why they were released when Reagan was inaugurated. I think I know the answer but would be fascinated by your views.




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July 17 2008, 2:11 PM 

Yea, that hostage taking had a strange Canadian twist to it.

 
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July 17 2008, 2:54 PM 

Its too bad the Yanks did not just kill him outright, rather than sparing his life and giving him medical treatment after he had killed one of theirs.  This kid was bread to be a terrorist and will finish his life in a ball of fire, as he takes down civilians in a market place or some place similar.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/omar-khadr.html

The devout Khadrs

The complexity of the Khadr case is heightened by his upbringing as the youngest in a family of al-Qaeda sympathizers who considered religious martyrdom, being a suicide-bomber, as a supreme calling. Omar's father, Ahmed Said Khadr, was an associate of Osama bin Laden and a reputed financier of al-Qaeda operations. He was killed in October 2003 by Pakistani forces. One of Omar's older brothers, Abdullah Khadr, is in jail in Toronto and is fighting a U.S. extradition request for terrorism-related crimes.

The Rolling Stone article says Omar's father used to tell his children, "If you love me, pray that I will get martyred." He urged his sons to be suicide-bombers, saying it would bring "honour" to the family. He actually warned his son Abdurahman, "If you ever betray Islam, I will be the one to kill you."

 

 


 
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July 17 2008, 2:58 PM 

Heh, they don't make families like they used to anymore..


 
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