But daylight bombing against the Luftwaffe took it's toll. In this movie clip Gregory Peck suffers a breakdown after losing 60 flying forts the previous mission over Schweinfurt. This happened more often than many folks realize:
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C-seven.. tu postes le 17 moi le 24 je gagnes!!! LOL.
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no single aircraft caused so much terror in the mind of it's enemies than this plane. the jerries even place sirens to give it;s screeming effect during it;s dive. later in russia it became an exceptional tank buster...
second would Me-190. bueatiful plane....
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"Greek Bloch MB-152, which flew against the Italians:"
The picture you posted are in fact Vichy A-F Bloch 174 during the German occupation of France and flew against the Allied mainly in North Africa...
The Greeks insigna is entirely medium-blue.
To distinguish between FREE French forces and that of Vichy, look for the yellow/red stripes of the Vichy aircraft and the Croix de Loraine of the Free French forces.
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I have to go for the Bloch 150 serie as well.
The Bloch 152 of 1940 was inferior to the Me109 but was one of the most promising plateform.
It downed 135 German aircrafts (German records: 156) for a loss of 94. It was well armed for the time with two 20mm canon and 4 7.5 machine guns. It was also very strong, one came back with 350 impacts!
But it was badly underpowered and lacked development time to increase it's reliability, notably the canon reliability.
The 152 was a transitional aircraft Bloch aviation was working on a new better powerer version: the 157.
The building of the 157 started in December 1939 but the factory was bombed, then the prototype had to be evacuated in front of the German advance.
It was captured by the German who decided to force the french to finish it.
Finally after many delays it first flew in March 1942 under German colors.
The Germans were astonished by the performances.
It's 1250 hp engine (1580 in over power mode) gave it the speed of 710 Km/h so faster than the Mustang P51D in 1944!
It was brought to Germany where the German unmounted the engine to study it. Unfortunately the prototype was destroyed by an allied bombardment in 1945.
The french started there rearmament too late. Had the war started six month or one yar later, with the 157, D520 and VG33 the Germans would have faced formidable fighters, all superior to the Me109 or of the time.
MB157:
Apart of that I like the Tempest, a monster, as well as the last versions of the Thunderbolt (yes I like brute force )
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Very useful to F-W design team, had better perfs than the P51...
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The Bloch MB-155 was probably the consummate version of the aircraft with the lower HP Gnome-Rhone engine. It had the pilot moved back to allow more fuel storage behind the engine-increasing range by about 500 km. Had better balance than the 152 as well. Unfortunately only a few were produced ahead of the fall of France.
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The FW190D(9?) was a very potent adversary even flying a Tempest mk5.
@abRaz) Good choice! Yvan Kozhedud loved it.
But according to Mak Anha who died at Duxford landing a dead stick Me109 G after the engine seized in flight, the La9 beat them all, including Sea-Futy and Bearcat...
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Lol i higly disagree,Operational at same time? Me262s first flight was on 18 april 1941 introduced in 1944. While the P80s first flight was at 8 January 1944 and i read here it was extensively used in the Korea war lol.
If the war would continue the Allies would have nothing superior to germans in crusial times. You do not want to give germans time they needed. Thus ruling the skies
The Axis were a big step ahead. Not only were they more experienced Pilots but more prototypes would come ahead like this baby.
Germany lost with The Russians But if it had time building more weapons It would kick Allies ass sky high. Not to mention be the first ones developing Nuclear weapons.
Watch the video i posted here,the americans where like ´´WTF WAS THAT,IT PASSED US LIKE WE WERE STANDING STILL´´ lol.
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Germans are the gods of war everthing used now is thanks to germans
Best tanks: tiger
Best rocket launchers: panzerwerfer
Best self propelled gun: Panzerhaubitze
Best anti tank rockets: Panzerfaust
Best machine guns: MG34
Best grenades:
Best grenade launchers: Gewehrgranatgerät
Best Rifles: MP44
Best soldiers ever!!!
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If they were best at everything, why did they loose der Krieg???
I think also that German planes and human capital was better than any Allied counterpart...
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Er...how about..hmm i dont know. They fought the whole world?
The germans had quality instead of quantity,and sometimes quantity over runs quality,especially if your fighting the world.
Germans made mistake attacking Russia so early.
But did Germans really lose the war? The got rid of the jews and did the most damage to the world with 22 million russians.
I wouldnt say they lost the war.
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P-80 was vastly superior to the ME-262 and would have decimated it in combat. The jet engines on the 262 were not very efficient, had poor high altitude capability and required complete rebuilds after only about 10 hours of use.
The P-80 could have been used in Europe during WW2, but it wasn't needed. So it never left the states.
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Landos,The first M262 were unique in his own time. Like i said the first flight was early 1941,and the germans achieved to create the first jetfight ever. The P80 was created on what later stage,so ofcourse it had beter engine. The germans never had the chance to continue improving their unique fighters so go figure. But if they did have the chance they would always be a step ahead to their enemies. Like all other things germans had,they had quality.
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Early P80 models were not so reliable either. Do you have a source on that 10hr claim? Jumo 004 was copied after the war by some other countries, so I don't think it was all that crappy. P80 in later years is obviously better, but if you look at how it or the Meteor evolved, I don't see why 262 can't keep pace?
Besides, 262 still beats it when it comes to having a better theme song.
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I respect the ME-262, but it wasn't the finest jet fighter at the time it was deployed. The P-80 was also deployed domestically in the USA in 1944 and it was a far more advanced design. The 262 got more press time because the Germans had by necessity to throw it into combat. They had no choice, the Allies were closing in on all fronts.
The prototype Focke Wolfe jet was far superior and would have given the allies fits.
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Greek,you would wish to be in the foot steps of Germans you skirt wearing fruitcake. The turks owned your Arse for 500 years and on top of that They took your Islands and totally wreck you in every sport possible.
So who are you to discredit the Germans? If the German reich would continue its warmachine nothing would top it. Get that through your thick head loser!
As tough as greeks get.
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The Tiger was a heavy, slow and unreliable self-propelled gun. A crap.
And the Me 262 was totally impossible to fly. The engine made flames out as soon as you moved the trottle a bit too fast.
Also ze Germans had put a swept wing on it but they absolutally didn't know enough about swept wings and it was catastrophic. They should have stick with the thin strait wings which is much more simple to design. And as the F104 and the F5 Tiger have shown later: we can go very high to the supersonic speed with them.
Anyway no ally would have put such a unreliable crap on the market. The Meteor was much better on this extense.
About the superiority of the german soldier, they are good to win a battle when they take their ennemy by surprise but to win wars it's another story.
When it's real war like WW1 vs France or WW2 vs Russia, they are good at the beginning but when their opponent get pissed and higher the level of their game they loose on the:
- battle front,
- strategical front,
- industrial front,
- innovation front,
- moral front.
And they win on the legend front... after.
I have to say nonetheless that the V2 impress me I must say.
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The bst way to rate a plane is to ask thoues that flew agenst it. The P-51 didnt think the Me 262 was anything special they can be shoot down like all the rest.
The sweeped back wing was an accident due to the change of the engins. As the new engine was of a larger mass the engines had to be mounted further back to mantain the center of gravity.
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and what are the flight performance of this fighter aircraft ?
That's a real fighter and bomber thread you moron, read the tittle. You know, the clean blue sky, NOT mud with dirty Nazis inside or propaganda drawing fantasy.
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My favorite fighter/bomber is the Horten HO 229.
Most people think that the ME 262 was the only jet made in Germany, and the HO 229 would have torn the P-80 and any other Allied WWII fighter to shreds.
The only reason it wasn't mass produced, was resources/end of war.
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The Horten HO 229 only had 2 hrs of flying time before it crashed. It was not operational.
Germany had 3 operational jets ME262 HE162 and AR234.
The UK had the Meteor and the Vampire.
I could say the Northrop XP-79 for the US but that was cancelled.
Hell The Canberra had its origins in 1944 can we clam that? of course not. Were talking Production Aircraft not Designs or experimental prototypes.
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The He 162 had very good flying characteristics with no design flaws contrary to the others, the Me 262 included.
It's problem was mainly quick and cheap manufacturing but it could have been a very good and dangerous oponent if build in quantity like planed.
A quick look on the wiki link confirm it:
One experienced Luftwaffe pilot who flew it called it a "first-class combat aircraft." This opinion was mirrored by Eric "Winkle" Brown of the Fleet Air Arm (FAA), who flew it not only during post-war evaluations, but went on to fly it for fun after testing had completed. He considered it delightful to fly, although the very light controls made it suitable only for experienced pilots.
The Horten HO 229 only had 2 hrs of flying time before it crashed. It was not operational.
Germany had 3 operational jets ME262 HE162 and AR234.
The UK had the Meteor and the Vampire.
I could say the Northrop XP-79 for the US but that was cancelled.
Hell The Canberra had its origins in 1944 can we clam that? of course not. Were talking Production Aircraft not Designs or experimental prototypes.
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First of all, there were three HO 229, V1,V2,V3, only the V2 crashed due to an engine fire, it was not powered by the engine it was intended for.
Second, I didn't say the HO 229 was operational, pay attention to what I say!
However, it flew, and more than one of them existed, and more test flights took place, and it was not canceled, as a matter of fact, after V2 crashed, it was put on an accelerated program.
As for your Canberra claim, let me ask you this, was it built during WWII, did it fly during WWII....no? Well, than you can't claim crap now...can you!!!
Btw, the thread title is "Favourite WW2 Fighters and Nombers", explain to me where you see anything that says...excluding prototypes/experimental?
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Very good choice, but exolain the Snakeye retarded bombs in 1945?
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Btw, the thread title is "Favourite WW2 Fighters and Nombers", explain to me where you see anything that says...excluding prototypes/experimental?
'Cos there not realy fighters or bombers as they never fought or bombed any thing. Not even dummy targets.
Also if it was so good why did it take so long for that type of aircraft body to become operational on the F-117 and the B-2?
oh yes V1 was a glider and V3 was never finnished but was nabed in Operation Paperclip and given to Northop.
As for the Canberra( which I stated does not count) it was desined in winter/spring 1944-1945 and a order was placed in May 1945 just before the end of the war in Europe. Due to the UK lack of cash she was not ready till 1949.
She has more validation to the Pipe dream aircraft designs that others are poting forward.
Also as People often say the A-41 tank did not see combat so it cant be a tank of WW2,(1/2 a squadron was under going field tests in Germany at the time of surrrender) neither should prototypes/experimental aircraft.
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For once i agree with HellsWheels, Germans were the most formidable in WW2.
Nothing ever comes close to Me262, any moron who says or thinks otherwise is that- A MORON, n i dare anybody to contradict me.
ME 262 is a generation above anything the allies ever had. Its like comparing F-22 Raptor with F-16 or Mirage- 2000. If only the Germans had adequate number of the ME 262 it would have been a one sided slaughter, sheep vs wolf, virgins vs pornstar you name it. Spitfires, Hurricanes etc were hopelessly outdated vs ME 262.
I did read somewhere that Hitler planned on jet bombers as well but it was during the virtual end of the war, to late and too few to make any difference.
What Hellswheels forgot to add was that Germans also invented ballistic missiles and cruise missiles.
VI, AND V2, I dont think i even need to bother to post a pic, everyone here would have heard abt thm.
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"Btw, the thread title is "Favourite WW2 Fighters and Nombers", explain to me where you see anything that says"
The Topic title?
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Spitfires, Hurricanes etc were hopelessly outdated vs ME 262.
Oh dear it was not that advanced agenst the Spitfire IX or the P-51 ( first Air to Air lose of an ME262 was to a Spitfire IX)
You seam to forget that the UK had the Gloster Meteor and de Havilland DH.100 Vampire the US had The Bell P-59A and the P-80. So no the ME 262 was not a generation advance on the allides.
The Fokker Eindecker was more feared by the Allies in 1915 the the ME 262 in 1944.
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Seriously, no fame intended, but I really think that the HO 229 would have never fly correctly without sophisticated modern FBW...
With the nazi, especially at the end, we are typically in the propaganda syndrome when people comes to believe their own propaganda and behave like if the more they believe it, the more people are convinced, the more it'll work (even technically...)
There were nazi propagandist who were paid to go in trains (where there were a lot of soldiers) only to spread rumors about new secret weapons like "death ray", "flying saucer" or other futuristic BS that'll save the Reich. For the moral. Desesperate attempts.
Most of those projects were just paper drawing, pure propaganda inventions or unrealistic prototypes and sorry, to me the HO229 is one of them.
The Me262 had a lot of flaws too according to a magazine which was very harsh toward it. But again the He 162 was maybe ugly but it was the best one of them all hand down and could have been very dangerous.
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I dont think it was such a problem, the problem was HO 229 was one of the first to fly with this arrangement...
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I don't understand the connection between the Douglas F4 and the discussion.
The Me262 was clearly in advance, but a moron named Hitler decided to make it a fighter bomber instead of just a fighter. That put it 7 month late.
Apart of that it was very difficult to fly, its landing gears weren't strong enough and its canon and engine were unreliable.
Still it was a very dangerous opponent, most were shot down at take off or landing.
One of my favorite fighter as well, if only for the look.
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c-seven) was certainly refering to the tail-less configuration but it is not such a problem in itself, what is MORE of one is Tail-less AND instable as was AVE-C.
As for the F4 B it flew long before sofisticated FBW systems and was OK helpt that little by the fin perhaps....
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"ME 262 is a generation above anything the allies ever had. Its like comparing F-22 Raptor with F-16 or Mirage- 2000. If only the Germans had adequate number of the ME 262 it would have been a one sided slaughter, sheep vs wolf, virgins vs pornstar you name it. Spitfires, Hurricanes etc were hopelessly outdated vs ME 262."
Dude...if its a very "used" pornstar vs a hot virgin, I know what I am taking.
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'Cos there not realy fighters or bombers as they never fought or bombed any thing. Not even dummy targets.
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They were indeed fighters/bombers, that was the intention behind the design, it's what they were classified as, it doesn't matter whether it actually saw any combat.
Also if it was so good why did it take so long for that type of aircraft body to become operational on the F-117 and the B-2? oh yes V1 was a glider and V3 was never finnished but was nabed in Operation Paperclip and given to Northop.
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First of all, the F-117 is not based on the HO 229, only the B-2.
Second, not many people had the vision that the Horten brothers and Jack Northrop had, and we all know, the most advanced bomber today is the B-2, which is based on the HO 229!
As for the Canberra( which I stated does not count) it was desined in winter/spring 1944-1945 and a order was placed in May 1945 just before the end of the war in Europe. Due to the UK lack of cash she was not ready till 1949. She has more validation to the Pipe dream aircraft designs that others are poting forward.
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Button line is, it wasn't build let alone even flew any time during WWII...end of story on this matter.
Also as People often say the A-41 tank did not see combat so it cant be a tank of WW2,(1/2 a squadron was under going field tests in Germany at the time of surrrender) neither should prototypes/experimental aircraft.
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The Centurion tank is a WWII tank, a end of the war tank that saw no action, however it was build and was operating during the war.
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Some germans are full of themselves, the B-2 was in NO WAY based off the Horten. In fact its amazing how the germans get credit for the delta wing when both Soviet, British AND French designs predate anything Lippisch put out.
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Some germans are full of themselves, the B-2 was in NO WAY based off the Horten. In fact its amazing how the germans get credit for the delta wing when both Soviet, British AND French designs predate anything Lippisch put out.
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Once again, our resident moron extraordinaire has to open his mouth about a subject he know nothing about.
Let me give you some quotes.
""The B-2 has been a careful combination of Ho-V,
> Ho-VII, and Ho-IX and modern technology. Northrop examined the stored Ho-IX
> at Silver Hill completely over a three month period before designing and building the B-2.
> The B-2 is more like the Horten designs than any of the
> Northrop wings including the failed B-35 and 49.""
The similarities are more than just a coincidence.
Not only did Northrop examine the design, but also the coating on the HO 229, which was painted with a radar absorbing material, which Btw was also a German invention.
I'm sure you're going to reply with some idiotic remark that it wasn't, so to safe you one more embarrassing moment, just google "Project Schornsteinfeger"
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"Evidently the problem of avoiding radar detection came into being the
moment the first operational radar was fielded. Already during the
Battle of Britain radar had greatly enhanced the effectiveness of the
British air defence. As early as April 1942 the RLM's Director of Air
Armament, Erhard Milch, offered a prize for finding a way of deceiving
enemy radar. While airborne electronic warfare was in the event
pioneered by the British 'Window' passive jamming, it was the German
Navy which introduced the means of permanent radar-protection of
moving vehicles. By 1944 the Kriegsmarine had developed and tested
radar-absorbing materials which were applied to the parts of
submarines exposed above the water in order to prevent their detection
by ASV radar, which was a naval version of the H2S airborne radar.
The simplest material was a carbon-impregnated rubber coating, named
'Schornsteinfeger' ('chimney sweeper'), an allusion to the substance
used.
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Just so you know, the HO 229 was painted with this material!
As for you stupid remark about the Delta wing, I'm not going to waste my time again with you on this matter, I clearly proved my case already with you.
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Proved your case? You mean how you got fussy and ran away when I showed you the designs from a bunch of countries that were dated prior to the nazi designs. lol
But really, who are you kidding with the stupid comparison of B-2 and Horten? Principles behind RCS and stealth were pioneered by Ufimtsev in the 60s, but ohh wait, that couldnt be right since the nazis invented everything. LOL The horten played as much of a role as the wright flyer, only sites for pre-school kids mention the obscure resemblance, and after that the similarities end.
Hey check this flying wing from 1876,
and here is the FIRST tailless bomber,
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