With the cold war over and Germany united, what to the average German citizens think of their land still being occupied by the tens of thousands of foreign soldiers?

Do they care? Do they want them gone? I have always wondered, but never had the chance to ask an actual German who spoke English. I figure here is the best place to ask.

Well...German knows the day foreigner leave, they unintentionally do something crazy like before.....But this time they make sure, job properly done....hehahaee

PEACE

It's good for the local economy, I doubt the Germans want them out.


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"The enemy dies relaxed," observed a Lockheed Martin manager.

When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.

It doesn't matter what they think about it; as long as we're there, the Nazi's will stay in check. Ger_Mark will not turn into the next Hitler, as long as we're occupying Germany.

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That's nice... I would like to hear from some actual Germans though.

Element7, SeQuBu said this in my thread about British troops stationed in Germany:

Germany doesn't want them to leave, jsut as they don't like it when the US closes bases in Germany because those bases inject a **** load of money into the region where they are (a base needs all kind of services)

http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1243688355/Why+does+Britain+have+20k+troops+in+Germany-


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"The enemy dies relaxed," observed a Lockheed Martin manager.

When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.

Those soldiers when they get out go to local stores/bars and spend money.

Also all the supplies and food comes from local sources.

We`re speaking for big $$$!

Its like they have some permanent tourists that bring foreign money!

Wasnt Apex stationed in Germany?

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So it's safe to assume the Germans don't mind occupation as long as it brings them money?

What about ejecting current foreign troops and replacing them with German soldiers? They can pump money into the local economy, and Germany wouldn't have to worry about occupation.

But then Germany would have to pay for them!

Now USA is paying for the food,supplies and wages of these soldiers and vast majority of
that money goes to local economy.Not bad,huh?

german army has become a pussy army even taliban can kick thier arse..

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Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHlzP69n9c

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Taliban kicks Paki army azz too............

they are here to give us money its kinda payback for the damages they have caused in 2 worldwars






Napoleon auf St. Helena: "Hätte der Himmel gewollt, dass ich als deutscher Fürst geboren wäre und hätten Sie mich einmal zu Ihrem Kaiser gewählt und ausgerufen so scheint mir noch Heute, dass Sie nie von mir abgefallen wären und ich Heute nicht hier sitzen müsste."

Taliban kicks Paki army azz too............ ***********

RE: not really...

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Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia



Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHlzP69n9c

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I flew regularly out of Spangdahlem in the early-mid 1990s............always seemed a welcoming place. We rarely stayed for long or "went out on the town" but no one complained we were there. Our jaunts were usually quick in and out carrying something important or servicemen back. C-141s.

MAC/AMC began to co-operate the base around this time as the Soviet scare dialed-down in the post Persian Gulf era. Went back in the late 90's on a reserve stint and not much had changed.




Never heard, saw, or talked about nukes in any of my experiences. Purely conventional. Pallets of MREs.....some fuel.....mail......HMVs......occasional ordinances.......etc.

So it's safe to assume the Germans don't mind occupation as long as it brings them money?

What about ejecting current foreign troops and replacing them with German soldiers? They can pump money into the local economy, and Germany wouldn't have to worry about occupation.

It's much better for them when the US is paying for it. I don't think they should leave here either, injects money into our economy, provides 4 squadrons of aircraft we can use to support RAF air defence operations, extra reserves of munitions, provides a place for airshows


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

I once lived in France,
but left for Angleterre,
I dream up flying in planes,
and invent some sources too,
but when it comes to proving it,
it's Tampax down the drain!

I flew into Leipzig airport as part of my deployment OIF V.. then back from R&R leave. Nice, clean country and Germans working at the Airport were very friendly

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May I remind you that thousands of German soldiers are "occupying" other ALLIED countries also?!

Lufwaffe in Italy, Netherlands, Belgium and the USA. Army in France, Netherlands and Poland etc.

And NO ONE in Europe has a problem with having allied Nato soldiers on their ground!
Even more, in Germany, but also in every other Nato country, Allied Nato troops are very welcomed.

And not only because of the money! Btw. the US saves also a lot of money with the German facilities!
The Air transportation routes are much shorter and cheaper to the middle east. The Landstuhl Regional Medical Center (the most important medical center for American soldiers wounded in Iraq, Africa, Balkan or Afghanistan) can co-operate with the German medical infrastructure, which is one of the most developed in the world!

And for the combat troops Germany has some really nice military training areas.
However.
So, stop this you are "occupied" rubbish. Or is the UK also "occupied" because there are 12.000 American soldier plus some European soldiers stationed?

Or is the UK also "occupied" because there are 12.000 American soldier plus some European soldiers stationed?

The UK doesn't have any military bases on its territory other than US ones (i.e No European countries have a base). The Americans also aren't soliders, but rather aircrew, ground crew and officers.


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

I once lived in France,
but left for Angleterre,
I dream up flying in planes,
and invent some sources too,
but when it comes to proving it,
it's Tampax down the drain!

LOL, NG, from your sig, I assume you are a fan of the North American Union?

I hope the German people can rise again.

And attack other whities like they did in WWI and II.



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I feed my blonde lots of char sue.

I hope the German people can rise again.
And attack other whities like they did in WWI and II.

And help the Japanese to rape and own the Chinese again?


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

I once lived in France,
but left for Angleterre,
I dream up flying in planes,
and invent some sources too,
but when it comes to proving it,
it's Tampax down the drain!

To start with, Germany is not an occupied nation, the sooner some of you people get educated on this fact, the sooner you'll stop making an idiot out of your self!

Second, do I mind hosting foreign soldiers?

No, I don't mind, it contributes to the economy.

Do people realise the Germans have an airbase in Arizona or New Mexico? of all places

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The reason I call it an occupation is because Germany was invaded by the Allied countries during WW2. Since that war, those soldiers have not left (even after the cold war). Instead, others have simply been rotated in and out over the years.

Germany never invaded Arizona or New Mexico.

What is in Germany now is an extension of what was previously an occupational force.

The germans should restore their national pride again, kicking arrogant mutt raced yanks out of germanic lands of germania

Its something about angry german voices making females horny haha
Its so sick

LOL, NG, from your sig, I assume you are a fan of the North American Union?

yes in a way i am, just wished that Mexico was out of the deal . Either way, the NAU is already under way.
 



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What are your views on the Thans-Texas Corridor and the theft of American land to build their highway?

The TTC is dead, it's being replaced by a similar but much SMALLER system in place. Don't like the idea of it but still it's a moving step towards the NAFTA. What's your take on the NAU?

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IMO, Canada has the most to loose from the NAU. Our resources are something they REALLY want to get their hands on, as well as our fresh water resources.

I don't think Canada would have as much as say as we should have in any NAU, but would have to give up the most.

Also, I joined the army to fight for Canada.. not the interests of US and Mexico...

Who did you join the forces to fight for?

America obviously. Still, the concept of the NAU is a great idea IMO.

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"I hope the German people can rise again.

And attack other whities like they did in WWI and II"

Why all the hate mate? Man, we only made you guys get hooked on Opium. Chill out. Sounds like your entire country is going through withdrawal. I mean you are all angry and paranoid all the time. Perhaps we need to hook you all up again.

Remember the Boxer rebellion when Japan, Russia, USA, UK and the Germans joined together and beat the crap out of you guys(china I mean)?

Who's interests would the NAU serve though? The US has different foreign policy interests from Canada and Mexico. Any formation of an NAU would eliminate our sovereignty (and yours)

Also, with regards of the "new" TTC, how do you feel about the fact that the land being stolen from the American people to build it is going to be bought by a Spanish company called Cintra? Also, how do you feel about the fact that it will be a tolled highway, and all money from the toll will be going to a foreign company?

Who's interests would the NAU serve though? The US has different foreign policy interests from Canada and Mexico. Any formation of an NAU would eliminate our sovereignty (and yours)

The intrests of all 3 countries would be served. Improved commerce and security ala SPP, 1 nation, 1 military, 1 currency (Amero). So obviously our current Foreign policy would need to be altered in order to meet criteria. Without eliminating borders, it wouldn't be a union now would it? . This is the part i think most Americans wouldn't support the NAU, our sovereignty would be eliminated. I'm also against that idea, but in order for the NAU to succeed all 3 nations must combine in to ONE. So in theory, 'Canada' would have as much say as 'USA' in the NAU.

Also, with regards of the "new" TTC, how do you feel about the fact that the land being stolen from the American people to build it is going to be bought by a Spanish company called Cintra? Also, how do you feel about the fact that it will be a tolled highway, and all money from the toll will be going to a foreign company?

Cintra is not new to our countries, they've built and continue to maintain major toll highways here and in Canada as well. To my understanding, majority of toll fee's will be going towards our government(s) when and IF the Super Highway is completed. Like i said before, the only downfall of this union would be 3rd world Mexico.

edit: We should open a new thread on this topic

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