It seems that a french Tiger attack helo has conducted the very first combat engagement by a Tiger last friday in Afghanistan during a close air support mission to silence a taliban heavy machine gun position.
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August 26 2009, 6:27 AM
Not a way to win a war according to us, but you're welcome to attack the Talibans positions with stones.
LOL. Good one, Thunder. Another favorite tactics of them is to send a someone strapped with bombs to do the job and they'll probably mourn the lost of the bombs.
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August 26 2009, 6:41 AM
you guys semnd a attack hello to silence a machine gun
lol"
Point me to the rule in Zap Brannigans "big book of war" where it says ,war is supposed to be fair, or in other words, don't bring a knife to a gun fight...or in this case don't bring a LMG to an attack helicopter festival.
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August 26 2009, 8:09 AM
@ Bannerman
battle of Alasay, the chasseurs alpins (yes those same legendary guys that stopped an entire Italian army with one division in WW2) blow them away with Milan, too. I think it's number 8/9.
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This is the very video where one of the US trolls claims the US troops have to "train" the French.
I explained to the idiot that the US doesn't apply NATO procedure for which the French troops have been trained, even the AdA/MN are complanining about it....
As if our Mindef will send untrained troops and need the US to trained them to debark from vehicles, just as well the bozzo only pretend to understand French, he would get scared...
This complement of formation is so specialised it is given to all troopers who are first timers in Af'stan.
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^^^In the military, that's called training, even in the civilian world. LOL you still can't get over that fact can you? Now that everyone's watching this thread, we'll repeat the laughter brought upon you once again. You're welcome to come up with more excuses and the usual troll BS. Fact of the matter is you have no idea what war is like, nor did you have any experience with any NATO or it's training, therefore, you are unqualified to even speak of such matters, and made a fool of time and time again.
I explained to the idiot that the US doesn't apply NATO procedure for which the French troops have been trained, even the AdA/MN are complanining about it....
You also tried to explain to 2 (two) armored soldiers how tank tank rounds and armored warfare works, and got nailed pretty hard.
As if our Mindef will send untrained troops and need the US to trained them to debark from vehicles, just as well the bozzo only pretend to understand French, he would get scared...
Kind of like how you pretend your service in the Ada? Or how you pretended to know about Tanks and Armored warfare? LOL. French soldiers aren't up to par with U.S training, this is a fact.
This complement of formation is so specialised it is given to all troopers who are first timers in Af'stan.
There is more training beyond that video, but your ignorance probably didn't know that now did it?
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^^^In the military, that's called training, even in the civilian world. LOL you still can't get over that fact can you?"
MORON!
In the military this is called Complement of FORMATION AND as i was saying it is NOT NATO standard...
Otherwise they would have had this formation already before going to the theater of operation, in France.
These were developed after the experience the US had with sideroad bombs in their light vehicles, NOT part of ANY NATO standard training.
I thaught you were thick but insisting into making the stadard GI Joe a near-specialist of physiologic shock with a 3 day first aid training is laughable, these procedures are specific for the kind of injuries they see in these events in these vehicles, they are not thaught to GI Joes until the get there or are due to, BOY!!!
Since you didn't grab most of the video, these troops are ELITE and have their own Commando team, WAY above NATO combat readiness for most regiments.
You're a small brainer with a HUGE low estime problem and a MYTHOMANIAC, get yourself a LIFE and some REAL education because your military and foreign language knowlege are p!ss-poor.
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August 26 2009, 3:15 PM
In the military this is called Complement of FORMATION AND as i was saying it is NOT NATO standard, otherwise they would have had this formation already before going to the theater of operation.
Wrong again, and more denial monkey boy. It's training, plain and simple. That fact that you come up with more excuses only makes you look more of a fool.
These were developed after the experience the US had with sideroad bombs in their light vehicles, NOT part of ANY NATO unti training.
Nato has been training on IEDs for sometime now, it's standard. Just recently they opened up a counter-IED lane in A'stan.
He TROLL arrogant enough to try to teach a Frenchman French?
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August 26 2009, 3:20 PM
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Wrong again, and more denial monkey boy. It's training, plain and simple. That fact that you come up with more excuses only makes you look more of a fool".
You know NOTHING about it and it shows, since the occupation of Iraq this complement of formation was first thaught and then implemented to help with the growing number of injuries specific and due to these bombs vs light vehicle such as that used by the US, France deploys NO HUMVEES.
It is SPECIFIC to US recent wars not NATO's.
"NintendoGamer76)
Nato has been training on IEDs for sometime now, it's standard. Just recently they opened up a counter-IED lane in A'stan".
"for sometime now, it's standard"
NO it's NOT you DUMMIE!
Had it been it would have been implemented in Europe long ago, and it's NOT.
BOY as i was saying, complement of formation for those due to these theater of operation and i'm SURE the US troops first-timers in these theaters are given the same formation when they arrive there and BEFORE that they already are fully trained...
And your flyboys not showing-up is also part of NATO "standard training" i suppose?
After the USAF Mecca been given Pilots and RIOs shape recognition training now this... LOL!
Your brains is definitely the size of a peanut, as for "training" even the girls of this Regiment would let you for dead, go invent yourself some NATO standard in the Legoland Forum, FAKE!
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August 26 2009, 3:37 PM
You know NOTHINGH about ti and i shows, since the occupation of Iraq this complement of formation was implemented to help with the growing number of injuries due to these bombs vs light vehicle such as that used by the US.
Ouch. Did i touch a nerve? LOL Sorry but, arguing in behalf of a matter that you have no experience or knowledge in only makes you look even dumber.
NO it's NOT you DUMMKIE, had it been it would have been implemented in Europe long ago, and it's NOT.
Obviously you aren't up to date with the Army or do you comprehend the word "Standard". Counter-IED training has been progressing with all NATO countries as early as 2005. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Stick to your Rafale and it's super-UFO hunting abilities.
BOY as i was saying, NOT a NATO standard "training" but complement of formation for those due to these theater of operation..
The training is required by NATO countries. It's standard. If you don't know what that means, go look up a dictionary.
Your D!ck is decidely as small as your brains, as for "training" even the girls of this Regiment would let you for dead, go invent yourself some NATO standard in the Legoland Forum, FAKE!
GO read up on NATO and then come back when you're done, maybe after you realize how much of a fool you are you'll spare WAFF of your stupidity and trolling. Your peanut brain and wannabe Ada service is only fooling the kids.
LOL! As usual the guy's have his now famous brainfade and insist in being stupid...
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August 26 2009, 4:32 PM
TROLL attack!
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August 26 2009, 5:02 PM
You touched VOID and demonstrated your total ignorance of US, NATO and foreign forces for a starter, even the Brits did let go the Land Rovers.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
ROFL!!! And where did you get this info monkey boy? Google? hahahah. Man i tell you, you're the biggest idiot on this forum, no contest! For starters, i've worked with coalition troops, have you? So you wouldn't know anything about NATO or it's standards now would you? And FYI, the Brits still operate those SNATCHes, i believe are currently being replaced by MRAPS. Shows you know fvck-all about the subject.
Blah-di-Blah. Speak for yourself...
When i SAY US-specific it is because the French and MANY european other armies doesn't deploy light vehicles equivalent to the US HUMVEE for the same missions you moron!
Who's talking about vehicles here boy? ROFL! ONce again you bring up another subject that isn't even relevant to the Argument! Trying to escape your embarassment? LOLOL! Lesson #2 for the incompetent and wannabe Ada pilot. NATO doesn't have a standard in vehicles you drive! LOL!
Even in deployement with FINUL the AMX 10 P is used with the Leclerc and risks of sideroad bombs are a LOT lower there than in Iraq or Afganistan.
Now what would you know about IEDs monkey boy? My tank's right track and 2 road wheels were blown off due to an IED.
Light infantry vehicles deployements such as these are a TYPICAL US formations dating from the Iraq invasion, NOT NATO standard.
Who's talking about vehicles?
In French service they are only used for engineers and Artilery transport.
Who's talking about vehicles?
Deployed French troops are a LOT more protected than what the US have came to see in Iraq and Afganistan and AGAIN:
Sorry, French protection is inferior compared to ours, this is another fact. This is another ignorant and uneducated guess you took at trying to prove something that has never been true. Our equipment is the envy of the world, our soldiers are far more protected than all of NATO troops, PERIOD. Even a Russian Officer quoted French protection is inferior in comparison to U.S or German armor in the "FELIN" thread. So once again, are you gonna continue making up BS? How about this, you post what level armor is standard issue for the French Army, and we'll go from there.
These procedures are US-SPECIFIC, NOT NATO SPECIFIC and the WORD formation is the SAME in French and English, this was a Complement of Formation NOT TRAINING.
You IDIOT! LOL!! We aren't talking the same formations as in Aircraft here moron! In the ARMY formations are usually for marching, running or standing, other than that it's the tactical maneuvers done by tanks/vehicles! LOL!!
This word was used specifically for combat training up to the very last few days of their stay in France and ther reason wWHY thery used the words complement of formation to describe this was because it IS.
Speak for yourself! We call it training, as do all english speaking countries! The French have their own way in describing training!
The Vehicle simulator IS a HUMVEE AND the likely blast-related injuries ARE typical of light vehicles, NOT what the NATO tropps would need to know and even less the French because there is NO way they'll deploy these the same way than thwe US does.
ROFL! Let me ask you again, WHAT IN THE FVCK do you know about the Army and it's procedures Tampax? NOTHING, so shut that FAT MOUTH of yours and save yourself the humility. It doesn't matter what vehicle it is. The Hmmwv is used to simulate vehicle ROLLOVER and egress/evac procedures. I did the same thing before i deployed and when i got to Kuwait!
Only a cretin with a permanent would insist in to making a typical US problem a NATO problem for the stake of been able to say that ELITE French troops are "Trained" by the US, as if they needed it.
Really, what are their specific jobs to be considered elites? Only peanut brain retarded uneducated fantasizing monkey boy like you would continue to argue with someone who knows WTF he's talking about.
You definitely have a huge self-estime issue, BOY.
Trust me, it's nothing in comparison to yours. It's not called self esteem if you know wtf you're actually talking about. You on the other hand continue to make up facts already in place and twisting them to make the French look good when in reality they are behind MOST NATO countries in combat experience and probably training.
Now, try to impress someone else because you prove time and time again to be a fanboy with too little knowlege of the military not to make a total FOOL of yourself. MYTHOMANIAC!
I don't need to impress anyone here, most WAFFERs know i was a soldier. You on the other hand haven't proved you were ever a pilot. Your fat mouth and attitude problem reflects that of an early teen.
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August 26 2009, 5:20 PM
so the tiger is slowly put though it's paces... lets see if it can operate on high altitudes where a lot of the taliban are hiding.....
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Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.
TROLL have a natural aversionm to knowlege, make them stay thick by nature.
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August 26 2009, 5:23 PM
YOU are a LIAR proven to INVENT yourself stuff nearly every single time you post an opinion, you're so lacking it is hilarious.
"NintendoGamer76)
Ouch. Did i touch a nerve?".
ONLY demonstrated your total ignorance of US, NATO and foreign forces for a starter, even the Brits did let go the Land Rovers, the vulnerability of the HUMMERs were debated in this forum you didn't even know it existed.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
"NintendoGamer76)
Obviously you aren't up to date with the Army or do you comprehend the word "Standard"."
Blah-di-Blah. Speak for yourself...
Source: Cavalier Blinde Magazine, French Ministere de la Defense, Issue 2 May 2006.
When i SAY US-specific it is because the French and MANY european other armies doesn't deploy light vehicles equivalent to the US HUMMER for the same missions you moron!
AdT observed and learnt at the view of the result with the light vehicles in Af'stan, the specs for the Petit Véhicule Protégé were clarified: Liason, Support NO First contact.
NO front line contact role for it in even LESS in theaters such as Iraq or Afganistan.
In deployement with FINUL the AMX 10 P is used with the Leclerc and risks of sideroad bombs are a LOT lower there.
Light infantry vehicles deployements such as these are a TYPICAL US formations dating from the Iraq invasion, NOT NATO standard.
In French service they are only used for engineers and Artilery transport plus support IF deployed at all in these places.
Deployed French troops are a LOT more protected than what the US have came to see in Iraq and Afganistan... AGAIN:
HERE are two typical French cavalery formations:
The one used in Afganistan WILL be the first one - CTRLZ because as the Colonel said it is a "Zone de Responsabilite", the QRF formation is NOT doing first contact but support and artillery IS part of it if not figuring in the second drawing...
Source: Cavalier Blinde Magazine, French Ministere de la Defense, Issue 11 June 2008.
Where the Leclerc are NOT needed or not mobile enough they will be replaced by AMX-10 RCs and THESE CTRLZ formations are those used in Afganistan.
There is NO Petit Véhicule Protégé or HUMMER equivalent deployed there and you PRETEND to speak French now?
These procedures are US-SPECIFIC, NOT NATO SPECIFIC and the WORD formation is the SAME in French and English, this was a Complement of Formation NOT TRAINING.
This word was used specifically for combat training up to the very last few days of their stay in France and ther reason wWHY thery used the words complement of formation to describe this was because it IS.
The Vehicle simulator IS a HUMVEE AND the likely blast-related injuries ARE typical of light vehicles, NOT what the NATO tropps would need to know and even less the French because there is NO way they'll deploy these the same way than the US does and as a matter of FACT, they DONT.
Only a cretin would insist in to making a typical US problem a NATO problem for the stake of been able to say that ELITE French troops are "Trained" by the US, as if they needed it.
You definitely have a huge self-estime issue, BOY.
Now, try to impress someone else because you prove time and time again to be a fanboy with too little knowlege of the military not to make a total FOOL of yourself. MYTHOMANIAC!
I'll skip the rest of your manures for the stake of this forum sanity.
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Another forum legend hits the dust, Tiger just done that.
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August 26 2009, 6:27 PM
huh????
where has it done that. in anycase it will be some time before it can prove it;s self. lets see if it survives heavy anti aircraft fire on the battlefield.
Pak Army Ah-1 cobras supplied in 1980s proved very rugged in it;s anti taliban operations, many returned safely despite riddled with heavy calibre machine gun fire...
the PAK army will surely be watching the performance of the tiger.
Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia
Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.
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August 26 2009, 6:29 PM
huh????
where has it done that. in anycase it will be some time before it can prove it;s self. lets see if it survives heavy anti aircraft fire on the battlefield.
Pak Army Ah-1 cobras supplied in 1980s proved very rugged in it;s anti taliban operations, many returned safely despite riddled with heavy calibre machine gun fire...
the PAK army will surely be watching the performance of the tiger.
Pakistan Airforce: The largest distributor of Indian airforce parts in Asia
Pathankot Strike
8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.
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= In psychology, mythomania (also known as pseudologia fantastica or pathological lying) is a condition involving compulsive lying by a person with no obvious motivation.
http://www.bushywood.com/mythomania.htm
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