http://en.rian.ru/papers/20090825/155922165.html

Russia considers buying French infantry combat suits

France's FELIN infantry combat suit shown at the MAKS-2009 air show in Zhukovsky near Moscow has attracted the attention of the Russian Defense Ministry, which may consider buying it.

FELIN (Integrated Equipment and Communications Infantryman) combines a modified FAMAS rifle with a host of other electronics, clothing, pouches, and body armor. The integral SPECTRA helmet is fitted with a real-time positioning and information system and light amplifiers for night vision.

The Russian military is in talks with France's Sagem of the Safran group, which developed FELIN, on the possibility of buying the suits, the newspaper has learned from a source in the Russian Defense Ministry and an employee of an aircraft manufacturing company close to Sagem.

A Russian officer said that the French body armor and other individual protection systems are inferior to U.S. or German-made systems, but FELIN's electronic elements are extremely attractive. According to his information, the French have expressed a readiness to Russify the software and adjust the electronic systems to Russian tactical norms and designations.

The purchase of FELIN suits would be reasonable only if Russia also gets the related technology, said Mikhail Barabanov, an editor at the Moscow Defense Brief magazine.

Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Moscow-based Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said the French partners could agree to turn over the technology, and that this would not damage France's security even though it is a NATO member.

However, there was a case when the purchase of French weapons damaged the importer. During the Falklands War in 1982, France disclosed to Britain the codes for the anti-ship missiles it had supplied to Argentina. However, it did so only after its closest ally put powerful pressure on it, and this in a highly dramatic situation.

Pukhov said that France would not do this for Georgia or any other post-Soviet country where weapons incorporating French systems could be used.

http://lenta.ru/news/2009/08/25/deny/

4 Mistral and now this

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Never gona happen ...

the news of russia's defence producements are getting more and more ridiculous






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It's confirmed. The Russian MoD is looking to procure a small number of FELIN combat suits to use them in state acceptance trials of a Russian system. They will be used to "improve" the Russian system.

http://newsru.com/russia/26aug2009/felin.html

looks like the Mistral is happening too.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE57P2V120090826

"Makarov said he hoped to follow up on the purchase of the helicopter carrier by organizing joint Russian-French production of similar ships".

Possible depending opn the level of technology involved...



"Makarov also said is was "quite probable" that Russia would seek to buy a small number of French FELIN infantry combat suits, which combine weapons, communication and positioning devices".

FELIN just entered service , i don't SEE DGA allowing the technologie to be given away, there was never talks for even export so far...



"In principle, it is in many respects better than our own (equipment)."



Thunder Supports Rafale
http://rafale.freeforums.org
http://rafale.freeforums.org/rafale-vs-f-16-aerodynamics-compared-t69.html

WAFF syndrome explained:

= A pathological liar is someone who often embellishes his or her stories in a way that he or she believes will impress people.

= In psychology, mythomania (also known as pseudologia fantastica or pathological lying) is a condition involving compulsive lying by a person with no obvious motivation.
http://www.bushywood.com/mythomania.htm

Russia is working on a Future Soldier type system too called Ratnik. All the basic components are in place and state acceptance trials should be over by 2015 they just want to compare it to Felin in trials. It would do the French good too as we have a few components for Ratnik that the FELIN is missing including a tiny hand held mine detector called Korshun that does away with the need to have those huge pole ones everyone still uses.

FELIN is a poor copy-cat of Land Warrior

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But i still canot see it happening, there are many very recent technologies deployed with Felin including the latest in communication, SATCOM etc.

Designing ships is one thing, sharing the technologies developed for FELIN another.


Thunder Supports Rafale
http://rafale.freeforums.org
http://rafale.freeforums.org/rafale-vs-f-16-aerodynamics-compared-t69.html

WAFF syndrome explained:

= A pathological liar is someone who often embellishes his or her stories in a way that he or she believes will impress people.

= In psychology, mythomania (also known as pseudologia fantastica or pathological lying) is a condition involving compulsive lying by a person with no obvious motivation.
http://www.bushywood.com/mythomania.htm

So they want France to build 1 and then build the rest in St. Petersburg


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I am sceptical about the original Felin suit being sold in the export market so early...

Thunder Supports Rafale
http://rafale.freeforums.org
http://rafale.freeforums.org/rafale-vs-f-16-aerodynamics-compared-t69.html

WAFF syndrome explained:

= A pathological liar is someone who often embellishes his or her stories in a way that he or she believes will impress people.

= In psychology, mythomania (also known as pseudologia fantastica or pathological lying) is a condition involving compulsive lying by a person with no obvious motivation.
http://www.bushywood.com/mythomania.htm

I don't believe in these advanced programs for front line troops. The cost is simply too high.



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