Son Of Uzi Goes Abroad
September 18, 2009: Thailand is buying 15,037 Tavor assault rifles from Israel. Five years ago, Israel introduced a new assault rifle, the Tavor, to replace the 5.56mm Galils and M-16s, and the 9mm Uzi. The new weapon is a bullpup design, which places the ammo magazine behind the pistol grip and trigger, and makes for a shorter and lighter weapon. The Tavor comes in three sizes; regular (28.4 inches long, 8 pounds), commando (25.2 inches, 7.8 pounds) and mini (19 inches, 7.1 pounds). The Tavor has a rail on top, for mounting all manner of sights (as it becoming popular, mainly because it makes the weapon so much more effective.)

By comparison, the standard Uzi was 25.6 inches long and weighed 8.8 pounds with a 25 round magazine. The Uzi was designed for reliability and low cost manufacture. It was not very accurate and would sometimes fire by itself if dropped. Some 1.5 million Uzis were manufactured over the last half century and the weapon's reputation increased every time Israel won a war using it. But, like it's World War II predecessors, it was considered a crude weapon. Tavor attempts to answer the many complaints leveled against Uzi, the Galil and the M-16 (which Israel has used a lot because it got so many of them cheap from the United States).

India was so impressed that it bought 3,070 of the commando version of the Tavor for its special operations units. But when these arrived in 2005, Indian troops immediately began having some reliability problems. Israeli troops had similar complaints, and it took nearly a years to get it all sorted out. Otherwise, the Tavor was well received by the troops. However, because Israel can't afford to just junk hundreds of thousands of Galils and M-16s, the Tavor will be issued as the older weapons wear out. So it won't be until the end of the next decade before everyone is using the Tavor.

Meanwhile, Israel continued to push Tavor as an export item, and has had growing success. The Tavor design was based on years of feedback from troops, so if corruption (bribes for purchasing officials) doesn't become a major factor, the Israeli weapon should show up with a lot of foreign armies in the next decade.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20090918.aspx




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The Uzi was a Czech design and not Israeli.

it is partially based on the czech M23... however, it is isreali, UZI is named after it's maker..Uziel Gal ... if you say UZI is Czech.. then I can say the Kalasjnikovs are German...


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Except Kalishnakovs have very little mechanical similarity to a Mp-44, its basically a different gun that atheistically looks the same.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


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and if anything the MP-44 borrowed from the Fedorov Avtomat of 1906, the worlds first true assault rifle. The AK's daddy was the Fedorov.

Well... should we all thank the chinese for gunpowder then?... or bow and arrows maybe


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how much tavour rifle cost

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I'd suggest an MP7 would make a much better UZI replacement for a country, being 16 inches long like the Uzi but around half the weight and firing a much more powerful round.




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will some one plez explain two things to me

how the hell do you replace a 9mm sub machine gun like uzi with a 5.56 assualt rifle?????

and travor should be galils son or m16s son not uzi son

Bro "it's Strategy Page", which around here is synonymous with "interesting stuff, seemingly written by idiots", so what do you want?

Having said that and, in keeping with the traditions of "thread drift" around here, I'm wondering what you guys think of the HK PDW vs. the FN P90.

It seems kind of inconvenient that they have different calibres. I'm wondering which is better and whether NATO or whoever could standardize one of them.

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