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ROK Drops KFX Tech Target To Gen 4.5,To Make Final Decision on Project Next Month

September 22 2009 at 2:17 AM
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Seoul Drops KFX Technology Target To Generation 4.5

Sep 20, 2009

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South Korea will focus on developing a Generation-4.5 fighter under a proposed program that previously aimed at an equivalent of the fifth-generation Lockheed Martin F-35.

The government is due to decide in November whether to proceed with the program, called KFX, which industrialists hope will meet the air forces distant F-XX fighter requirement for the 2020s.

Lockheed Martin and Boeing are battling for another prize called F-X Phase III, under which the air force proposes to buy 60 fighters next decade.

Downgrading of ambitions for KFX follows condemnation last year of the original specification from the Korea Development Institute state think tank.

An officially commissioned study from another think tank now urges that Gen-4.5 technology would meet South Korean needs.

If KFX goes ahead, the next major decision would be whether the fighter should have a new design or be an upgrade of a type already in production. Boeing, Lockheed Martin, EADS (representing Eurofighter), Saab and Korea Aerospace Industries have submitted proposals.

With this program, South Korea is facing an especially stark choice between its industrial and strategic interests.

On the one hand, it wants to maintain a fighter-development capability that it built up with the T-50 supersonic trainer.

And yet, the South Korean air force, more than many others, faces a serious military threat and needs to field the most effective equipment its budget can provide. The F-35 has attracted political support in South Korea as better value for the money than KFX and is favored by a strong lobby within the air force.

A think tank from Konkuk University says a Gen-4.5 fighter would be enough, partly because stand-off missiles make maximum stealth redundant.

Still, a Gen-4.5 fighter entering service early in the 2020s would probably have modest export prospects, which seems to minimize the chances of South Korea adopting an all-new design, even if KFX goes ahead at all.

Indeed, the F-35 might be ordered under F-X Phase III, raising the awkward possibility that South Korea could field a Gen-5 fighter in one decade and a Gen-4.5 in the following decade.

The Konkuk think tanks KFX report was due to the government last week, but its recommendations have already been widely discussed.

The new KFX specification calls for an empty weight of 10.4 metric tons (23,000 lb.), reduced observability and either one or two engines. It would have an active electronically scanned array radar and an infrared search-and-tracking sensor.

Development cost is estimated at 5-6 trillion won ($4.1-4.9 billion) and production at 50 billion won per unit, with entry into service in 2021.

The highly stealthy KFX would have cost 10 trillion won to develop, according to the Korea Development Institute.

The report recommends that as many as 250 KFXs be built to push down the unit cost. The first 120 aircraft would replace the countrys McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantoms and Northrop F-5 Tigers. A further 130 KFXs would replace Lockheed Martin F-16C and D Block 52s.

If KFX costs $41 million a copy, South Korea might export 300-500 to countries such as Indonesia and Turkey, it suggests. Indonesia signed a letter of intent with South Korea to participate in the KFX study last March.

The proposed size of the aircraft would suit a development of the Typhoon. EADS promoted the Typhoon type to meet the earlier KFX specification, for which Saab suggested designs descended from Gripen.

Boeing said last year that the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and completely new designs were on offer for KFX. The company is pitching the F-15SE Silent Eagle, a stealthier derivative of the F-15E, as the F-X Phase III requirement but that fighter is much larger than the latest specification for KFX.

Lockheed Martin adopted a low profile when South Korea sought a Gen-5 KFX, since the aircraft would have competed with the F-35.

The air forces more immediate requirement, F-X Phase III, is raising the same conflict between industrys interest in getting work and the services interest in fielding the highest technology.

Korea Aerospace now builds the wings and forward fuselages for all F-15s, thanks to South Koreas orders for 40 Eagles under F-X Phase I in 2002 and 21 more under Phase II. A further batch of 60, possibly including work on developing stealth aspects of the design, would therefore be highly attractive to the company.

The F-35, by contrast, would not be released for manufacturing in South Korea.

The defense ministrys think tank, the Korea Institute for Defense Analysis, has recommended the F-15SE, but a decision is far off. The acquisition administration said in March it would not formally identify candidates until 2011 or 2012 and would then need two more years to choose the winner.

Boeing will exhaust its current F-15 order book in 2012, although Saudi Arabia may buy a further 72 Eagles (AW&ST Sept. 14, p. 22).

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/defense/?channel=defense

 
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Re: ROK Drops KFX Tech Target To Gen 4.5,To Make Final Decision on Project Next Month

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September 22 2009, 2:20 AM 

IMO, if the ROK doesn't deem KFX worthy of a 5th gen fighter and plan on going the 4.5 gen. route with a heavily modified fighter based loosely on the T-50, best to cut the project now and use the funds on the F-35.....


.....usually I'm all for Korean indigenous efforts, but I think the money and time could be more wisely spent in this situation.


    
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September 22 2009, 2:39 AM 

The 5 billion in development alone is worth 50-60 early production F-35s.

 
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September 23 2009, 4:31 AM 

what it be good for the long run at least

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September 23 2009, 4:58 AM 

not necessarily... if this were two generations ago, i would agree, but since the f-35 is probably going to be the last generation of manned fighters, it doesn't really make that much sense to invest in an indigenous fighter program for only one generation. take that money, buy f-35s, and use the rest on improving the korean UCAV industry.

 
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September 23 2009, 5:04 AM 

No point for this fighter, when it enters service, it'll be a whole generation behind what Korea can purchase from foreign suppliers. S Korea also has a budget problem right now, money can be spent better elsewhere.

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September 23 2009, 5:07 AM 


"IMO, if the ROK doesn't deem KFX worthy of a 5th gen fighter and plan on going the 4.5 gen. route with a heavily modified fighter based loosely on the T-50, best to cut the project now and use the funds on the F-35..... "


Agree. Don't see the need to go to all the trouble to develop something that already exists, can be had for less cost per unit, and has virtually no chance of sales outside the home market........which would be 100 units or so.


The model pictured above is nothing but a T-50 single seat version.......which is a small, less capable F-16 Block 60. SK would be better served going to LockMart and specifying a super -62 "Plus" type of aircraft. If not, just plow that money into initial F-35 buys over a few decades.

 
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September 23 2009, 6:24 AM 

T-50 is nothing close to the F-16 block 60. T-50 is a LIFT, with secondary attack capabilities. A-50 will be more capable but still no where close to a block 60.

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September 23 2009, 8:38 AM 

I just honestly have no idea what's going on with this at all. I'm not sure if anyone's taking the KFX seriously even.



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