It follows the moving boat and blows it out in the range of 1600KM



http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2009-10-07/1023569298.html

Opppsss!!! Looks really Awesome...

It follows the moving boat and blows it out in the range of 1600KM

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and the carrier sits and watch ??


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What about the targeting part?



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It follows the moving boat and blows it out in the range of 1600KM
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The "boat" is the moving carrier.

The trick of this missile is that it tracks and follows the movement of the carrier.

the warhead itself functions as a independent missile with its own brain

the only, tinsy-winsy, little problem with launching ballistic missiles is that the opposition is going to believe that this is a first use. The counter strike will be ordered, the codes will be released, and China will lose all its major cities, ports and damns.
Other than that, jolly good work.
When one flies, they all fly.

It's a good thing that the US has all those SM-3 ABM systems

It won't work ... only for deterrent purpose

it is not ICBM and non nuke missile .. so it won't trigger all out retaliation

Given that it's flight profile is that of an ICBM, how is it not supposed to trigger a response?

It's unlikely they will think its nuclear, they certainly wouldn't start nuclear war over a carrier anyway. The problem with this is that the missile isn't the weak link, targetting as Eric said is. More specifically, the carrier moves between when it is first detected and when the missiles seeker is in range. So, when we add the time to get the image, time to process the image and time to find the target, then the time to pass this data to launch units and finally for the missile to get into seeker range, we find the carrier could be in quite a large area of travel going at between 0 and 30 knots in any direction. Although the seeker has a good view, its only a missile and its moving incredibly fast, so we can assume it will need to be given pretty accurate target points to start with.

Of course there are potential efficiencies here for the Chinese. The carrier is tracked over time potentially, and so the area it is in can be narrowed greatly to somewhere within a cone shaped area, and with less probability within that cone too. Obviously if the satellite is geosynchronous then continuous tracking is easy and the time depends only on comms and processing, processing could be brought down massively with the use of computers to do the image recognition, targetting and launch. If the satellite isn't, then the update times could make it possible to move out of the seekers vision. There is the option of mass raids, though it potentially takes a lot of missiles to make up for some small error in targetting.

It's a good thing that the US has all those SM-3 ABM systems

Why is it? I doubt they will be much use as they are intended for much higher altitude targets. SM3 has a minimum, as well as maximum engagement altitude. The latest versions of the SM2 and the SM6 when it comes into service would likely make a better choice. It all depends on the flight path of this missile.


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Given that it's flight profile is that of an ICBM, how is it not supposed to trigger a response?

You don't know its flight path, and ICBMs don't have a set flight path. There are ICBMs with very flat trajectories designed to bypass the US missile shield.


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

I once lived in France,
but left for Angleterre,
I dream up flying in planes,
and invent some sources too,
but when it comes to proving it,
it's Tampax down the drain!

ICBMs by their very name fly a BALLISTIC profile. They launch at an angle, go into orbit, and come down on an arching profile. Nobody had demonstrated a maneuvering reentry vehicle yet.

A "straight" profile is a cruise missile, not a ICBM.

If an ICBM launches anywhere in the world unannounced, the $hit will hit the fan long before it is determined that it was a carrier killer rather than a nuke.

ICBMs by their very name fly a BALLISTIC profile. They launch at an angle, go into orbit, and come down on an arching profile. Nobody had demonstrated a maneuvering reentry vehicle yet.
A "straight" profile is a cruise missile, not a ICBM.
If an ICBM launches anywhere in the world unannounced, the $hit will hit the fan long before it is determined that it was a carrier killer rather than a nuke.

You are taking it to the extreme, the ballistic missile does not need to fly level in order to fly a flatter, but still ballistic, trajectory. Secondly, as you say, its ballistic and so the impact point can be roughly calculated, and so everyone will know its going to land in the ocean. Even if the missile WAS nuclear, the US still wouldn't launch nukes at China because then Chinese nukes would go at America instead of the ocean. The carrier has only 5000 people + the escorts, its insignificant compared to the amount that would die if the Americans launched a nuclear response at a countries mainland. The US has nuclear war as the very last option, not one of the first as you seem to imply.


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

I once lived in France,
but left for Angleterre,
I dream up flying in planes,
and invent some sources too,
but when it comes to proving it,
it's Tampax down the drain!

Damn, that is no threat. China cannot even build a can opener that works. Their weapons are no better, but I do like the pretty camo pattern.

"The carrier has only 5000 people + the escorts, its insignificant compared to the amount that would die if the Americans launched a nuclear response at a countries mainland. The US has nuclear war as the very last option, not one of the first as you seem to imply."

Me suspects that if someone nukes a CBG in international waters there will be a response...

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Me suspects that if someone nukes a CBG in international waters there will be a response...

Response... perhaps
All out nuclear war... perhaps not


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

I once lived in France,
but left for Angleterre,
I dream up flying in planes,
and invent some sources too,
but when it comes to proving it,
it's Tampax down the drain!

The Chinese dont have the orbital array to properly guide these things -- not enough satellites.

Ballistic missiles dont need to fly ballistic trajectories today, that "problem" hasnt been a problem for a long time. It actually makes the world a more dangerous place, but its the US's fault for arguing for missile defense.

In the Taiwan straight there are land based radars to guide these things just fine to 600km or so, beyond that....

One day the Chinese will have the sort of orbital arrays the USSR used to have, but today nobody can afford it, not even the Americans arguably.

"the US still wouldn't launch nukes at China because then Chinese nukes would go at America instead of the ocean."

Me doubt the chicoms in Beijing will be reassured by your words. From what i have read is that an attack on US carrier is seen as an act of war against US itself since these are strategic assets, but then again i have only read about it and could be wrong.

But attacking a US strategic assett and/or attacking US military with nukes is something which even Osama bin laden will think a thousand times before doing it. Nation states wont like messing with US in exchanging nukes, USSR during its peak didnt dare using nukes against USA, not even in the Cuban crisis. What makes you think China will dare launch nukes at US? The population density of China is high, even a tactical nuke wont kill less than 150,000-200,000 chinese in a modern chinese city, if the heavy thermonuclear bombs are put in use then it would be dommsday scenario for China.

And no, nuking US and praying that the UNO will intervene is not a very bright idea




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What about the targeting part?

Exactly. Range usually means little without intelligence; war is all about acquiring targets. How is the Chinese gonna have a lock on a US carrier? Even if they do I'll wager that thing will have such an enormous IF signal that it'll be an eye magnet. I know however missile like the new gen Exocet needs only to know the general area of a ship and once it's within certain range it will search for the ship. But in this mode it'll probably attract a lot of attention and could be easily jammed.

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