ha! Long article but the jist of it is Iran put down a hefty deposit and now Russia says it wont deliver the missiles and Russia will keep the deposit. Iran is naturally outraged that it cant get its money back.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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^ what are they going to defend them salves with even you russians know that israil has 200 nuke missiles stored away and no one alse knows you guys just wasted them there time
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Unlike the business and international experts on this forum. Russia and every other country is aware of how business and international relations are conducted. Simply keeping a deposit without delivering the goods is not the way to do it
MOSCOW Russia on Thursday said it would continue military cooperation with Iran amid widespread unease in the West over Moscow's controversial contract to sell advanced anti-aircraft missiles to Tehran.
"The Russian Federation implements and plans to further implement the military-technical cooperation with the Islamic Republic of Iran in strict accordance with existing legislation and its international obligations," Russia's Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation said.
The service released a rare statement after the Interfax agency, citing a Russian government source, reported ealier this week that Iran had not yet paid Russia for the S-300 anti-aircraft missiles.
The source said no payments had been made because Russia's government has not given its final approval for the sale of S-300 missiles to Iran.
"We can't give comments regarding concrete plans or obligations with regards to existing contracts as it would mean becoming an unreliable partner (and) give potential competitors a chance to take advantage of the situation," the military service said.
Thursday's statement is likely to fuel further unease in the West over Russia's cooperation with Iran. Russia has so far refused to discuss tougher sanctions against Tehran, which the West suspects of seeking to obtain nuclear weapons.
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sorry friend there has been talk of Russian S-300's to Iran since like 1998, it aint happening and newsru.com is citing Vedomosti which is the Russian arm of the Wall Street journal and the Financial Times (a paper jointly owned by the two) so it is more believable than Interfax which is an organ of the Kremlin and carries more than the occasional bit of truth mixed in with disinformation. The Kremlin wouldnt want any double cross to see the light of day.
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First paragraph of the arcticle as translated by google, one of those rare instances when google translator is 100% correct.
"Russia has agreed to freeze the deal to supply anti-aircraft missile systems S-300 in Iran for political reasons. According to some reports, this was done despite the fact that Tehran has made an advance payment for the weapons."
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That's why Pak enjoys Chinese friendship without a single problem....viva China.....lolzzz...Chinese knows how to handle Russians....and they handle damnnnnnnnnnnnn goood...
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That's what happens when you deal with Russia. It's like the local Walmart where you get cheaper, value products but with no warranties or money-backs and one @$$hole of a mananger.
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hawks,
lol, now the iranians should think twice before bashing china and russia. A biatch does not have the right to bash its masters/savors
lol watttt, your perception of chinese and russian power and influence is grossly exaggerated we are not the ones who are being manipulated by the west against trade parters and 'allies'. Besides if anything this is proof of americas influence and power over Russia (and china no doubt).
I really don't understand either of you people at the moment. The Russians seem to be under the illusion that this is 19xx(xx being < 88) amd they're still fighting the cold war(and that they didnt lose in afghanistan...) and you fail to understand that your country is so heavily reliant on america that it is forced to buy their bad debt just to keep its own gears greased.
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It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too
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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too
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quote: Hawksss is right, a 3rd class backward country like Iran that is lietrally the b1tch of China and Russia shouldnt bark much.
Backward, lol
Coming from a guy who lives in a country where one 3rd of the population can't read or write.
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your country wishes to have the infrastructure of Iran,if you and other morons here do no believe what i said, just click the link below and check it for yourself:
If the Russians have decided not to sell the s-300 then they will simply refund Iran the deposit. What the WAFF kids don't understand is that trade between Iran and Russia is far too important for the Russians then a measly 500-600 million deposit that Iran would have given on the S-300. Making billion of dollars on Nuclear plants and etc... is more profitable in the long run then pocketing half a billion.
On another note this simply demonstrates the power the Israeli lobby has over Russia... It helps that mot of the oligarchs are Jews.....
Iran does not need the S-300 that much any way... sure its a good system but who is it going to stop?
Iran has two potential foes the US which is not going to be stopped with s-300 batteries and Israel. The latter is well within Iranian missile range and Iran has sufficient assets to ensure that the warmongering Israelis never even attempt such a folly.
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If the Russians have decided not to sell the s-300 then they will simply refund Iran the deposit. What the WAFF kids don't understand is that trade between Iran and Russia is far too important for the Russians then a measly 500-600 million deposit that Iran would have given on the S-300. Making billion of dollars on Nuclear plants and etc... is more profitable in the long run then pocketing half a billion.
LOL.........Not really.
You forgot Iran is under sanctions???
There is very little "business partners" other than Russia willing to do some business with Iran. Plus its not like Iran is a big partner for Russian anyway.
Face it, at this time Iran needs Russia much more than other way round. Iranians can daydream all they like but thats the reality.
Russia could show Iran the finger on this (and they have) but Iran will still need to go crawling to Russia back like the good b1tch they are. LOL.
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Why is it always the jews? Saudi Arabia, pretty much a 100% muslim country, has urged Russia to stop the deal offering their own multi-billion dollar contract instead.
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Russia could show Iran the finger on this (and they have) but Iran will still need to go crawling to Russia back like the good b1tch they are. LOL.
You are a fool if you think international politic works this way, you think Iran has no other option? If Russia try to play dirty, Iran can easily restore diplomatic relationship with USA and shaw the middle finger to China and Russia at the same time!
Don't you think it would be better for drunken Russian to keep Iran as close ally and not a lost friend!
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Why is it always the jews? Saudi Arabia, pretty much a 100% muslim country, has urged Russia to stop the deal offering their own multi-billion dollar contract instead.
Because Saudi is a lapdog of USA and USA is run by Ze Jew. can you connect the dots?
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Iran can easily restore diplomatic relationship with USA and shaw the middle finger to China and Russia at the same time!
Suuuuure..........if you think Ahmandinejabbajabbajad and the Mullahs want to commit hara-kiri!
One of pre-condition of restoring diplomatic relationship with US and the West is, Mullah mob to go, and restore relations with Israel. No doubts about that!
Not going to happen so long as the Mullah mob wants to stay in power.
Until then, Iran is going to be busy sucking Russian and Chinese d1ck, no matter how many times it get slapped.
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Well don't think Mollahs are stupid, actually Iranian people love the idea of building the the bridge with USA and that can help Iranian government to stay on power since Iranian will approve
new friendship with the US!
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I want to wait and see if there is any truth to this before I go further.
If indeed it is true then it will make Russia lose alot of credit around the world.
Saudi Arabia... now that is a puppet nation with a fake monarch pretending to be hardline muslims...
In response to this Iran should cancel the Nuclear Enrichment deal on the bases that Russia is too unreliable and untrust worthy of enriching our Uranium.. That will put some pressure on them!
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Russia is just testing the waters like it did with supporting heavy sanctions against iran then withdrawing such support. This is what I suspect, or else it doesn't make much sense to me.
Saudi arabia is without a doubt americas puppet, it can't even stand up for palestine, and this country is meant to be the central hub for the sunni muslim world, thats how severely controlled they are. I haven't really read their history but I'm pretty sure their regime was installed by the british after the breakup of the ottoman empire. 15 of the 19 september 11 hijackers were from this country, the wahabbi ideology of al qaeda is born, bred and based there but because of their leaderships complacency towards their american masters not a bit of media spotlight is put on them after 9/11, that is not by coincidence.
It's laughable to even think of the saudis of having their own foreign policy when in one decade they go from supporting saddam with hundreds of billions of american dollars then in the next decade throwing that same support behind america in invading and overthrowing him, even at the risk it held of the majority shiite gaining power, which they did.
Russia is a smart country with smart people, it is not going to ignore the jews then go listen to some muppets in saudi arabia. Unlike our russian friends on waff its leaders are aware of the greater benefits of a friendship with iran. The fact is america is strangling our friendly tomato soup producers to the north with a multitude of threats such as missile defense in poland, the nabucco pipeline, and its growing influence and power in former soviet states (see the rose and orange revolutions as examples).
Contrary to popular belief america and russia did not get together to bake pie and make friends after the cold war, for years infact america was covertly aiding the chechnyans. It is eating away at russia bit by bit day by day, so the facts would suggest.
If not for any other reason the fact that iran holds the second most greatest gas reserves in the world and has yet to campaign in joining nabucco should be reason enough for russia to want to ally itself with them. I really don't see the appeal of stealing our deposit money over that.
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And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too
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Iran better than India? Sure, in your wet dreams of course.
In fact your phucking 4th world country, nah sh1thole, I-ran is so backward that none of you persian refugees dare to live in i-ran eh>? Thats how persia was renamed iran isnt it, all persians when asked about the condition of their country reply sayin "I-RAN".
No civil liberties, no rights, no jobs, inflation skyrocleting, no industry other than oil and gas which is their luck and temporary resource, not fit to live in for persians themselves forget foreigners, and a president hell bent on getting his country phucked left right and centre by Israel.
I as an Indain am proud of my country, i live here, work here and pay taxes to my govt. for the development of MY country, NOT adopted country.
You persian refugees, what have you done for I-RAN?
Dont compare your garbage dump with civilised countries. You losers are fit to photoshop "successful" missile launches and nothing else.
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India is so dirt poor its people filter water through cattle before they use it, and that's actually an improvement in the state of the water from what it was. Iranian engineering is much more efficient than indian engineering, it can actually deliver clean water to its people through modern means and it managed to get into space within one attempt and much less money than what india with its greater manpower had to spend.
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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too
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no wonder a lot of people here think you are an idiot, if you were a little objective, you would not make such a statement. since everybody here knows what India really is, go check the link i provided above and you will be ashamed of your comment about Iran and also check link below, listen what an Indian says about Indian slave mentality and history. i advice you do not throw stone when you are sitting in a glass house!you urgently need a reality check.
"India is so dirt poor its people filter water through cattle before they use it, and that's actually an improvement in the state of the water from what it was."
only an iranian can come up with statements like filtering water through cattle, but then again you guys ARE backward.
"Iranian engineering is much more efficient than indian engineering, it can actually deliver clean water to its people through modern means and it managed to get into space within one attempt and much less money than what india with its greater manpower had to spend."
dont kid around here you moron. Lets hear about iranian space technology and compare it with Indians.
and iranian engineering, yea. Who is a space power and nuke power? Its India not your pathetic 4th world country. you guys are worse than africans.
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"no wonder a lot of people here think you are an idiot, if you were a little objective, you would not make such a statement."
aww iranian rat, you hurt my feelings. Lot of ppl dont like me coz i rattle their cages like i rattled theirs. Hell i even got a warning from PETA.
"since everybody here knows what India really is, go check the link i provided above and you will be ashamed of your comment about Iran and also check link below, listen what an Indian says about Indian slave mentality and history."
yeah, i-ran is such a power that you have to run away from it and live like a refugee in your foreign country. What are the achievements of your country in science, engineering and medicine? NONE. Your claim to fame is a lunatic of a president who threatens Israel, thats all you can do. If tommorow India converts its PSLV into a ICBM and threatens USA/Israel like NK does then India will b more in the news then iran.
But we are a civilised country and we understand the importance of peace and prsoperity, same cant b said about you persians. persian culture, heritage, history was phucked up by arabs and mongols, what u have now is pan-islamic culture. secret police checking around who is wearing jeans, makeup, uncovering their hair etc. LOL!!!
"i advice you do not throw stone when you are sitting in a glass house!you urgently need a reality check."
Shut up rat. I live in my own country,work in my country, pay taxes to my country. What have you done for your sh1thole of a country?
you are just a refugee living in a foreign country working for foreign masters, so just STFU refugee.
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^ unbelievable they dont only try to fabricate religion but they also even try to fabricate them salves to escape the truth like cowards what a pathetic idiot
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you are full of hate, i'm so sorry for you because you call me rat and refugee and you do not even know me! you said that Arab raped us which is just a claim, but i want to remind you that Indian were always Persian slaves trough out the history(NADER SHAH)! and your kind were not even attractive enough to be raped by Persian and i understand your frustration! now go and drink your cow urine and pray to your rats!
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by the way, why Indian are so stinky?
"Not everyone will say that of your people (remember that) but your president and leaders are (excuse me) a bunch of nutters, you folks deserve better. "
what is so stupid about you westerners is that israel has nuke weapons in the middle east in the first place so why dont your dumb leaders complain to them about the nuke weapons they have before complaining about irans nuke weapon programs and so i dont see why they dont have the right to build while the israelis do have the right to build it
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"you are full of hate, i'm so sorry for you because you call me rat and refugee and you do not even know me!"
i know you are a refugee coz for all possiblities you are not typing from i-ran, seondly iranian refugees living in western countries have the personality of a rat, hence i call u a rat.
secondly dont play the victim card, you are a refugee rat and remain one
"you said that Arab raped us which is just a claim, but i want to remind you that Indian were always Persian slaves trough out the history(NADER SHAH)!"
phuck your nadir shah, he just invaded and plundered mughal empire which at that time was nothing but delhi. You liars conveiently hide the fact that nadir shah invaded a empire in India, NOT whole India. India is from Kashmir to Kerala, from Gujrat to Assam and Arunachal Pradesh. Did nadir shah invade them?
No he just ranscaked delhi ruled by mughals (did a service to us), and he in turn was harrassed by the Sikh Khalsa, so dont twist facts here refugee rat.
Now coming back to you rat ppl. Arabs didnt rape you? Really lying rats? So how did islam come into iran, through the flying carpet? I think i will have to educate you rat how islam came into i-ran and how i-ranians were converted to islam after the destrucion of there empire.
Now for the cherry on the cake, GHENGHIS KHAN
The name says it all doesnt it rat? Does your pants still get wet when you hear the name? History says that the persians were so badly phucked by mongols that it took ages to recover the demographic status of i-ran. Hardly was any other country on earth so badly pillaged, plundered and ravaged to the ground as the mongols ransacked i-ran.Unlike nadir shah, Mongols didnt plunder just one part of the country. They literally destroyed i-ranian society.
I guess that was the first term when persia was called I-RAN, must have been a lot of persians "running" around LOL!!!!
"and your kind were not even attractive enough to be raped by Persian and i understand your frustration! now go and drink your cow urine and pray to your rats!"
tsk tsk tsk, poor refugee crying now.
its not in my habit to drink urine or pray to rats. Must be the things you were forced to do when you sought refuge in a foreign country. So refugee, me not a refugee like you. I am a proud Indian living in India.
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by the way, why Indian are so stinky?"
dunno, i dont stink and neither do i have a job that needs me sniffing around ppl who stink. Good god iranian!!! what job did they give you in your new country? You have to smell stinky ppl to earn a living? ROFLOL!!!!
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What would be the excuse?They can not to sell Iran any weapon system for C reason but keeping the deposit
is a theft.We`re not talking about a company but a country that want to be respectable and world player
if this happens Russia will ruin its fame over what they make in a week from oil.
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HBN its weird but nobody cared that Russia attacked Georgia but keeping the deposits from signed contracts
without delivering any weaponry would hurt the image of the country.Nobody would like to do business with
theifs.Till now Russia gave loans to help its weapon industry and now they`re ruining their fame?
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You are not in a position to call any Iranian by any name, since you- yourself are sitting in a little asylum house provided by Christian missionaries in India! how can you judge anyone around the world when you are living in your Country?
you sound like a broken record with limited knowledge. you are calling others Rats, refugees and so on! even if all Iranians were refugees to the west which is not the case,it should not be any concern of an Indian moron like you! at least the reason for Iranians are Political and not like most and Indian and Chines Immigration to the west for economical reasons!
For god's sake be a little more creative in your respond and do not repeat yourself with rats insult because, this term is reserved solely for an idiot like you!
All your respond to Iranian shows your inferiority complex.with insulting others you wont be able to get respect from others. don't you see that not even your country men are supporting you in your insult against others.
I always said that and i'm saying it again, we Iranian have great respect for Chines and Indians Culture and History and morons like you won't change anything about that!
I hope other member here understand that it is not about them and their country, it is just to make another WAFF jerk like this Idiot FN to drown lines and behave in a mature manner.
till that day comes, marg bar IDIOTS
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I usually don't laugh at things like other peoples misery, but when I stumbled on the following article five minutes after I saw your post describing Iranians as beggars I just could not control myself and had to come back here and post it.
This is a headline on todays CNN:
Desperate farmers sell wives to pay debts in India
Bundelkhand, India (CNN) -- The cattle slowly drag the old-fashioned plow as a bone-thin farmer walks behind, encouraging them to move faster with a series of yelps.
It is a scene from times of old, but still the way many farmers operate in rural India, where the harvest often determines feast or famine.
The region is called Bundelkhand, spanning the two northern Indian states of Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh. It is here that drought, debt and desperation have pushed people to extremes.
To survive the bad years, some farmers say they turn to the "Paisawalla" -- Hindi for the rich man who lends money. Farmers say the loans from these unofficial lenders usually come with very high interest.
When the interest mounts up, lenders demand payment. Some farmers work as bonded laborers for a lifetime to pay off their debts. Others here say because of years of little rain and bad harvests they are forced to give money lenders whatever they ask for.
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Sometimes that includes their wives.
"It happens sometimes when somebody borrows money," says a farmer's wife who did not want to be identified. She should know, considering what police say she told them. She said a rich man bought her from her husband.
"He did buy me," she says. "That's why he told me he bought me."
For 30 days she says the man forced her to live with him.
When her case drew public attention, she retracted her police report and her husband took her back.
Ranjana Kumari with India's Center for Social Research says the exploitation of women is common in the region. And, she says, there is little support for women in India who have the courage to file a case with authorities.
"Nobody's going to support or help them," Kumari says. "If a family decides not to help them, the system is already not so sensitized towards them, whether it is police, judiciary, whether the legal system. So the women themselves tend to withdraw these cases."
In another village, another story involving another farmer, and money lender.
"I sold my water engine and land and gave back his 30,000 rupees," the farmer says, describing his $600 loan payment.
The farmer, whom CNN is not identifying to protect his wife and children, says the lender then asked him to send his wife to help with chores while the lender's wife was sick. The farmer says he complied, and his children -- including his daughter -- went too.
But the mother never returned. The farmer says he believes she was stolen from him. The daughter says the lender sold her mother to another man.
State authorities say they have investigated the matter and found that the mother denies she was sold and has simply gone to live with a lover.
The daughter says that's not true, and claims that she and her father were told to keep quiet by some of the village leaders. During CNN's interview with the family, officials with the state magistrate's office barged into the farmer's home and began videotaping.
An Indian government report completed in 1998 says the region is prone to what it calls "atrocities," including the buying and selling of women.
However no one can say just how common these kinds of incidents are.
Social workers say this isn't just about poverty, but also an indication of the low social status of women in poverty-stricken areas such as Bundelkhand.
"Those women are very vulnerable to all kinds of physical and sexual exploitation." Kumari says. "Also there is much higher level of violence against women in that area."
The government and charities have been trying to help but the status of women and girls, often illiterate and seen as a financial burden, remains low. Nevertheless, attitudes are slowly beginning to change, Kumari says.
A farmer's wife in yet another village in the region said she was sold by her own parents 14 years ago.
"My mother and father got 10,000 rupees (about $200)," she says. "That's why they sold me."
She says she was 12 years old at the time her husband bought her. She never considered going to authorities because she says she had no where else to go. She accepted it as her destiny.
But now she has a daughter of her own and her perspective has changed.
Would she allow her daughter to be sold?
She looked up and shook her head firmly.
"No," she said, "I would not want this for her. Let her marry however she wants."
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What a joke. The nation that is famous for calling any foreigner SAHIB calling others what they are famous for.
FN my suggestion to you is to tilt your head when you talk to us as you Indians are used to do to your Mughals Persian speaking masters. Unless you want us to take a dump on you sorry souls.
nadir shah invaded a empire in India///
loool what empire? India was always a slave nation. I know that. You know that too. Any nation that needed some booty would take a dump on India while Indians were concentrating on not hurting their cows and on substituting water with cow urine.
In addition to that, Nader Shah pillaged where there was money. Why would he attack other wastelands? Exactly.
///Mongols didnt plunder just one part of the country. They literally destroyed i-ranian society///
True but let me ask you something? They killed, burned but What footprint did Mongols leave behind in Iran? Nothing. They didn't influence Iranian culture at all. In fact, they turned Iranian themselves and started speaking Persian and writing Persian poetry and adopting Persian names. Let's me see now... compare that with Mughals and their footprint in India. I just need to watch a Bollywood movie to tell you just how many Persian words I detect. Your language is littered with Persian words and India has more Muslims than any Muslim countries. Does that answer your baseless gibberish? I think it does . -------------------------------------------
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As far as Russia is concerned, let's just wait and see and not jump to conclusions. There is a lot of disinformation being spread by western media. So, I am very skeptical.
In the end, if Russians don't behave as we want them, we can always destabilize their country by a few trucks of arms to regions like Chechnya and Daghestan.
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Finally they allowed to post. Lets see what the jokers posted here.
"You are not in a position to call any Iranian by any name, since you- yourself are sitting in a little asylum house provided by Christian missionaries in India!"
Come on refugee rat, christian missionaries providing homes to all Indians? Did you mistake you and your brethren for Indians? LOL!!!
Since you are lying, let me repay the favour. You are in no position to talk here since you are a terrorist who has migrated to west to spread terror. Its not true is it, you migrated to the west because the ayatollah regime is oppressive.
"how can you judge anyone around the world when you are living in your Country?"
but you are NOT living in your country now, are you refugee rat?
"you sound like a broken record with limited knowledge. you are calling others Rats, refugees and so on!"
well you guys behave like rats, as for refugees, you are not in i-ran are you?
"even if all Iranians were refugees to the west which is not the case,it should not be any concern of an Indian moron like you! at least the reason for Iranians are Political and not like most and Indian and Chines Immigration to the west for economical reasons!"
but thats worse isnt it? You jackarse if you are migrating due to political reasons then you ARE a refugee, LOL!!!! Politically oppressed and economically depreived- thats i-ranian refugee rats for you, always "running" so named their country I-RAN.
"For god's sake be a little more creative in your respond and do not repeat yourself with rats insult because, this term is reserved solely for an idiot like you!"
you just proved you are an idiot in the above paragraph.
"All your respond to Iranian shows your inferiority complex.with insulting others you wont be able to get respect from others. don't you see that not even your country men are supporting you in your insult against others."
"countrymen", come on its not a "war". I am just having fun dissing out u refugee scum thats it.
"I always said that and i'm saying it again, we Iranian have great respect for Chines and Indians Culture and History and morons like you won't change anything about that!"
nice to know that i-ranian.
"I hope other member here understand that it is not about them and their country, it is just to make another WAFF jerk like this Idiot FN to drown lines and behave in a mature manner."
cut it iranian refugee, you are a refugee and the day you are in iran to post i will stop calling u refugee, till then STFU!!!
"till that day comes, marg bar IDIOTS"
MARG BAR, MARG BAR, BEER BAR WGISKEY BAR.
Dont u losers have anything else to do?
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who is hindu here? funny a refugee trying to sound funny.
"I usually don't laugh at things like other peoples misery, but when I stumbled on the following article five minutes after I saw your post describing Iranians as beggars I just could not control myself and had to come back here and post it."
i understand, you i-ranians are the most miserable of ppl on earth. prosecuted in your country and taking refuge in a western country you guys make loud noises of patriotism which is both funny and pathetic.
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"What a joke. The nation that is famous for calling any foreigner SAHIB calling others what they are famous for."
yeah, keep repeating your lies. One day you will b confident enough to lie that you are posting from i-ran
sahib is a term used to address your superiors, as far as addressing foreigners as "sahib", you would give such a javkarse remark but you are a jackarse and a refugee. If i go to a foreign country and visit a mall or store, the attendant will address me as sir, not because he is my slave but its basic protocol to talk politely to customers- world over.
guess nobody called u a sahib because u must have looked like a baggar, LOL!!!
"FN my suggestion to you is to tilt your head when you talk to us as you Indians are used to do to your Mughals Persian speaking masters. Unless you want us to take a dump on you sorry souls."
tsk tsk tsk, tilting head to a refugee who is following the religion shoved through the arse of his ancestors by some arab bedouin and a refugee rat who pises in his diapers if asked to return to I-RAN?
Dont bark so loud on handouts u refugee rat, you dont have the status to talk so loud. In fact i suggest you, in fact i ORDER you refugee rats to be in submission to the other ppl since you are refugee class.
"loool what empire?"
mughal empire you rat, what else.
"India was always a slave nation. I know that. You know that too."
coming from a refugee who has not seen his country and probably never ever will ee or set foot in his country again, how pathetic refugee rat. Dont you guys feel ashamed to live like refugees in a foreign country?
"Any nation that needed some booty would take a dump on India while Indians were concentrating on not hurting their cows and on substituting water with cow urine."
really? what is India today and what is the sh1thole today where u fled from? Other than oil n gas what else u got, nothing. Your president has to suck chinese n russian cock to feed the ppl and looks like the russians shoved their cock extra hard by not paying the refund.
what will u refugees do then? i will say, NOTHING. You will b loyal laves to ur western masters.
"In addition to that, Nader Shah pillaged where there was money. Why would he attack other wastelands? Exactly."
exactly, he pillaged other countries because iranaians like you are too dumb to contribute anything so your ppl have to live as robbers
as for other empires, hey would have mopped the floor with nadir shah.
"True but let me ask you something? They killed, burned but What footprint did Mongols leave behind in Iran? Nothing. They didn't influence Iranian culture at all."
what iranian culture u lying rat? You phucking iranian scum were following arab religion and culture. Zoroasrianism is persian culture, Islam was forced upon ur are by invading arabs. Like i said, islam didnt come by flyinh carpet, the arabs came, plundered, raped your ppl and converted them to islam and to this phucking day all iranians are muslims thanks to arab invaders.
"In fact, they turned Iranian themselves and started speaking Persian and writing Persian poetry and adopting Persian names."
yea yeah, mongols turned iranian??
tell that to the turks in this forum, they also claim to b mongols and they claim the mongols spoke turkic and not persian. Lying refugee rats, the mongols came and phucked up your country thats what they did, nothing else. No other country on earth was so badly devastaded by a foreign invasion as Iran was butchered by the mongols.
"Let's me see now... compare that with Mughals and their footprint in India. I just need to watch a Bollywood movie to tell you just how many Persian words I detect."
good, keep waching bollywood movies, our ppl need money and u faggots will make good milch cows. Regarding persian words, you never had language as a subject did you? Sanskrit also influenced many indo-european languages, many Indian and various words are used in english, the world is globalised now kid, feel proud for sumthing better.
"Your language is littered with Persian words and India has more Muslims than any Muslim countries. Does that answer your baseless gibberish? I think it does"
you used the right word "littered". Indian language is indeed littered by persian words because its such a garbage language. But India is a tolerant country, always was. Peace, harmony and non-violence were the hallmark of India and till today it is the same. We have accepted the muslims into Indian society which is proof of our tolerance, hell your own ancestors sought refuge in India- the parsis LOL!!!
But a iranian like you is persecuted in your own country by iranians who are of the same religion, LOL!!!
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i will rest my case, you have limited knowledge of the world out site the sh!t hole you are living in.your vocabulary is limited to few words. you could not answer even one of the points other Iranian here brought it up. you attack us with your baseless refugee and rat insult. since you filthy Indian are praying and kneeling to rats I think that you in real want to submit your self and bow to your Sahib(Persian, master/owner)us! By the way one of rat characteristic as a rodent is uncontrolled population over growth and carrying diseases and all these is just matching your country situation and if you would be objective you shouldn't have called others rats when you and your country men fall nicely under this category !
Poor guy, you are so delusional that you sunk from being a moron to an idiot. India is the biggest third world country in the world with limited advancement in some limited field with limited resources!It seems Limited is very common in Indian.
I would not respond to you any further because i do not want to bring myself down to your level.
now go aside let the wind blow, i can stand it, you stink.
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First of all let's not overreact. I searched on google for this piece of news and the first hit was this site strangely enough.
Second of all despite our Russian friends thinking that being an unreliable business partner is something to brag about in the real world countries don't do this. Even if somehow Russia changed her mind about the s300 then be sure there will be other forms of compensation.
Pay no attention to the rat worshipper my friends. He is sucking ruskie and chinky dick for support because even the Indians think he's a tool. I mean he has been humiliated in every position possible by me. (I know you liked the sexual reference there FN )..fag
Delusional at best, lol an Indian calling others beggars. You don't hear the Russians call anyone alcoholics.
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What lie? Are you denying that the first thing comes to anyone's mind when the word India is uttered is beggars and shanty towns? Seriously...do you intend to hide the fact that you're a nation of beggars by calling others beggars? Is this some kind of a strategy to hide your shame?
Have you read the book "a Fine Balance" (by the way written by a Parsi Indian)? All successful books and movies from India is about misery and you dare to call other nations miserable. You see I hate to rub people's misery in the face but you're so low that bring me now to your level.
sahib is a term used to address your superiors, as far as addressing foreigners as "sahib"///
There you're again. You use thousands of none Hindu words (thanks to Mughals) without even understanding the word. Let me educate you: the word means "Owner". This actually proves my previous claim that India is a slave nation. You're so used to call your Mughal or British masters Sahib that the word has acquired new connotations in current India and has become completely normal.
tsk tsk tsk, tilting head to a refugee who is following the religion shoved through the arse of his ancestors by some arab bedouin and a refugee rat who pises in his diapers if asked to return to I-RAN? ///
Funny statement coming from the most populous Muslim country called India.
Dont bark so loud on handouts u refugee rat,
Let me ask you something? Is it worse to be a political refugee or to be the product of a beggar nation where they can't even feed their own people. As a result, most Indians in the west are here because they don't have Basmati and Chapati back home. We are hear because we have issues with our Governement.
I take the satus of a refugee any day, kid.
you dont have the status to talk so loud.
Well, actually I do. To put it in backward cast system terms you understand: to be called a Persian puts you right above the highest cast in India.
mughal empire you rat, what else.
I stand corrected. Well at least they created a country for you guys. True they were easily sacked by Nader Shah but I admit at least the Mughals taught you something about warfare instead of doing Yoga all day and feeding mice in your temples and eating corpses to get supernatural powers.
Dont you guys feel ashamed to live like refugees in a foreign country?
Not really. At least we don't get to see that the name of our country evokes images of shantytowns and movies on it (again exploited by the British) and the Untouchables and honour killings.
really? what is India today and what is the sh1thole today where u fled from?
India? Still a ****hole that can't feed its own people with some privileged ones living good. You are still a slave nation you just exchanged your master. Now you suck Uncle Sam's *** while your farmers commit suicide in droves selling your rice at dumping prices to westerners while you own people go hungry. Shame on you.
We protest against our Government and don't take **** from our own Government while you live in a corrupt hungry nation with a minority living better calling yourself a power. That makes you an imbecil.
exactly, he pillaged other countries because iranaians like you are too dumb to contribute anything so your ppl have to live as robbers
Not really because India was the toilet of Asia. Every country would take a dump on it and I guess had eaten too much Kebab that day. In fact, even countries from other continents managed to enslave a sub-continent I repeat a sub-continent for Centuries. As far as Nader Shah is concerned, he was called the Napoleon of Persia. He consolidated Iran's borders and defeated Iran's enemies at all borders. In other words, he was a general and he fought for 30 years and obviously he had a lot of expenses. So, he looted the Mughals that ruled your ass for centuries. If anything you should be thanking him for doing that.
as for other empires, hey would have mopped the floor with nadir shah.
Really? God, you're so dumb. You don't know the first thing about Nader Shah.... I will post later something on his wars to educate your COOLIE ass.
what iranian culture u lying rat? You phucking iranian scum were following arab religion and culture. \
Dumb-ass. A culture doesn't stop existing just because it is under attack. Did Indian culture disappear just because of Mughal? No,
Iranian culture integrated and took new forms and when Mongol Khans came they adopted names like "shahrokh" and started writing Persian poetry and were Persianized. That only happens when the culture of the deafeated people is too strong. You get it now?
yea yeah, mongols turned iranian??
Again. You want proof? I can educate your Coolie ass if you want to. However, somehow you seem beyond help
tell that to the turks in this forum, they also claim to b mongols and they claim the mongols spoke turkic and not persian.
Oooh my God. Ooooh my God. You're so stupid. These Mongols are different than the Turks that later attacked Iran and Anatolia. Are you sure you come from Asia?
I can see how good Indian education system is? Go back to school imbecil. You know 0 about Asia and its history.
good, keep waching bollywood movies, our ppl need money
Well, I agree with the part that your people need money. I agree... you can't feed your people. As much as I like to help you people feed your people I don't really watch Bollywood movies because they are so stupid. Such a raped language full of Persian and English words. It is sad but true.
you never had language as a subject did you?
Correction: just because our languages belong to the same family of languages it doesn't mean you influenced us. Specially a language like Persian that is most probably more ancient than your beggar language Hindu.
the world is globalised now kid, feel proud for sumthing better.
Is this how you justify the fact that even your language is raped? The fact that the world is globalized has nothing to do with preserving your own language. In countries like Germany and France it is forbidden to use foreign words in the news whereas you beggars don't care. You know what your problem is? You have no pride.
you used the right word "littered". Indian language is indeed littered by persian words because its such a garbage language.
Loool Persian was the Lingua Franca of that region. Why do you think the Mughals chose Persian? Huh? Why?
They weren't Persian. Why?
The answer is simple. Persian was a cultured, the language of poetry and they tried to civilized your savage ancestors and yet they insisted on speaking the Brrrda Brrrda ugly gibberish.
But India is a tolerant country, always was.
Oooh ofcourse it is. That is why you still have a cruel cast system, honour killing, religious killings and Untouchables. Ooh yes. India is Discrimination on a grand scale.
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Quite honestly. I hate to talk to people like this but sometimes you need to bash people before they learn the meaning of the word respect. Therefore, I would like to apologize to other Indian members. I had no choice but to bash your country when one of your countryman is bashing my country. I hope you understand ... and I will immediately stop doing that as soon as this idiot stops.
Unfortunately, this forum bring out the worst in us.
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as for other empires, hey would have mopped the floor with nadir shah.
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Read and learn. I hope you can realize when you're owned. You will read that Nader Shah faced big powers such as the Ottoman Empire and came out first.
The source is Wikipedia and not some Persian site and I am only including a few of his military campaigns:
Nader chose not to march directly on Isfahan. First, in May 1729, he defeated the Abdali Afghans near Herat. Many of the Abdali Afghans subsequently joined his army. The new Ghilzai Afghan shah, Ashraf, decided to move against Nader but in September 1729, Nader defeated him at the Battle of Damghan and again, decisively, in November at Murchakhort. Ashraf fled and Nader finally entered Isfahan, handing it over to Tahmasp in December. The citizens' rejoicing was cut short when Nader plundered them to pay his army. Tahmasp made Nader governor over many eastern provinces, including his native Khorasan, and married him to his sister. Nader pursued and defeated Ashraf, who was murdered by his own followers.[12] In 1738 Nader Shah besieged and destroyed Kandahar. This was the ultimate defeat of any remaining Afghan forces. Nader Shah built a new city near Kandahar, which he named "Naderabad".[1]
A fragment of his Ottoman Campaign:
In the spring of 1730, Nader attacked the Ottomans and regained most of the territory lost during the recent chaos. At the same time, the Abdali Afghans rebelled and besieged Mashhad, forcing Nader to suspend his campaign and save his brother, Ebrahim. It took Nader fourteen months to defeat the Abdali Afghans.
Nader decided he could win back the territory in Armenia and Georgia by seizing Ottoman Baghdad and then offering it in exchange for the lost provinces, but his plan went badly amiss when his army was routed by the Ottoman general Topal Osman Pasha near the city in 1733. Nader decided he needed to regain the initiative as soon as possible to save his position because revolts were already breaking out in Persia. He faced Topal again with a larger force and defeated and killed him. He then besieged Baghdad, as well as Ganja in the northern provinces, earning a Russian alliance against the Ottomans. Nader scored a great victory over a superior Ottoman force at Baghavard and by the summer of 1735, Persian Armenia and Georgia were his again. In March 1735, he signed a treaty with the Russians in Ganja by which the latter agreed to withdraw all of their troops from Persian territory.[13]
I decided to omit his Indian campaign since I don't want to embrrass you more.
His campaign in Central Asia:
Nader was not impressed with his sons waywardness and reprimanded him, but he took him on his expedition to conquer territory in Transoxiana. In 1740 he conquered Khanate of Khiva. After the Persians had forced the Uzbek khanate of Bokhara to submit
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Persian_Revenge, I can honestly say that I have never taken that poor kid apart as badly as you just did.
But it will all go to waste, he doesn't have the attention span to read all of that and soon he will drown out everything u said with smiley faces, and references to homosexuality.
It's quite sad really...
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"i will rest my case, you have limited knowledge of the world out site the sh!t hole you are living in.your vocabulary is limited to few words. you could not answer even one of the points other Iranian here brought it up."
What points? One where a retard said the mongols turned persians after ransacking Iran? Come on dumbarse, even you cant b that dumb. OK lets assume for a minute that the mongols did turn persian(which they didnt) after destroying Iran, is it some kind of consolation prize for you?
"you attack us with your baseless refugee and rat insult."
come on, this is WAFF, when did you guys get so touchy?
"since you filthy Indian are praying and kneeling to rats I think that you in real want to submit your self and bow to your Sahib(Persian, master/owner)us!"
u wish, we pray to rats as much as you muslims blow up urself to allahs garden, oh wait wait, you DO blow up yourselves to allahs garden , iranians are terrorists arent they? I will wait till i find a better metaphor.
"By the way one of rat characteristic as a rodent is uncontrolled population over growth and carrying diseases and all these is just matching your country situation and if you would be objective you shouldn't have called others rats when you and your country men fall nicely under this category !"
then the chinese are what, rodents? LOL!!! Fact is India is growing in population and moreover is ABLE to sustain the population. If India was even half as poor as you flamers and trolls make it sound then somalia would have been never heard of in UNO.India has a population of one BILLION, that is 1 out of every 6 ppl in the world is Indian and if we were slum dwellers, impoverished hungry ppl then it would have been a catastrophe here. Indians are not dying by the millions everyday, infact India's eceonomy is growing every year, Indias international prestige is growing every year and as much as you hate it India is very much here to stay.
Can the same be said of i-ran? obviously not.
"Poor guy, you are so delusional that you sunk from being a moron to an idiot. India is the biggest third world country in the world with limited advancement in some limited field with limited resources!It seems Limited is very common in Indian."
again what i just posted above.
If India is "the biggest third world country in the world with limited advancement in some limited field with limited resources" then what would you call i-ran? the biggest 4th world country with no advancement in any field despite enormous resources?
i-ran has oil and gas resources, among the largest in the world, still you punks are piss poor. What acheievments have you done EVER in the last 50 years?
Its easy to call India a 3rd world country, but lets see what achievbements u refugee rats have achieved in last 50 years. If you dont have any answer i will take for granted u have none and simply trolling here.
"I would not respond to you any further because i do not want to bring myself down to your level."
no refugee rat, you wont respond to me because u urself know that wat u typed are a bunch of lies and nothing else.
"now go aside let the wind blow, i can stand it, you stink."
isnt that your job?
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"Second of all despite our Russian friends thinking that being an unreliable business partner is something to brag about in the real world countries don't do this. Even if somehow Russia changed her mind about the s300 then be sure there will be other forms of compensation."
an iranian refugee rat making policy decisions for Iran ROFLOL!!! Do the ayatollahs even know you exist? Do the Russians even care if you exist?
Then why are you wishing here, you think this is the wishing well. Talk when anything practical takes place.
"Pay no attention to the rat worshipper my friends. He is sucking ruskie and chinky dick for support because even the Indians think he's a tool."
says the iranian refugee who had to suck canadian and jewish cock to save his arse when he opened a thread to prove how desperate an attention whore he is.
"I mean he has been humiliated in every position possible by me. (I know you liked the sexual reference there FN )..fag"
come on now faggot, atleast learn to lie properly. You were abused by me left right and centre in every thread where u done your attention whoring, in fact i was your most valued customer. You got so badly sore that you had to open a thread addressed to me LOL!!! (another thing that u got owned even there )
"Delusional at best, lol an Indian calling others beggars. You don't hear the Russians call anyone alcoholics."
Is that why iranians dont call others refugees?
iran is as poor as India, but more backward in technical fields.
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"more gibberish ugh why did I read his incoherent posts. I have a headache now."
probably because thats the best you can do. I mean beggars cant b chosers n u are a beggar, right?
"Phucked this, raped that, I mean this dude is probably still a virgin. Correction, this dude has probably never had sex with a woman/girl/female"
why would an attention whore like you be interested in knowing who is virgin and who is not, LOL!!!
"Persian_Revenge, I can honestly say that I have never taken that poor kid apart as badly as you just did."
Did he? and when did you ever take anyone apart?
last time you were frothing so badly that you swore you will prove to me that you are not mad LOL!!! And thats because i called u mad so many times in my posts that you subconsioucly started doubting if you are indeed mad LOL!!!
Leave it kia rat, i can disintegrate your mentality, u are too dumb to own anybody. All you do is scream loud, which you are quite an expert coz you are a (attention) whore
"But it will all go to waste, he doesn't have the attention span to read all of that and soon he will drown out everything u said with smiley faces, and references to homosexuality."
ROFLOL!!!! kia rat is angry.
"It's quite sad really..."
really, its quite sad actually that u became a desperate attention whore. Probably thats why u fled to canada because they would have stoned u in iran.
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Iranian Waffer. Please dont waste your time with FN hes clearly not sane.. there is nothing you can say that he will accept he will continue to contradict every word..
So please for all our sakes just Ignore the Rat...
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"What lie? Are you denying that the first thing comes to anyone's mind when the word India is uttered is beggars and shanty towns? Seriously...do you intend to hide the fact that you're a nation of beggars by calling others beggars? Is this some kind of a strategy to hide your shame?"
You wish it did, but it isnt. Yeah you can rally around your hyenas in WAFF and bark in unison that India is impoverished, but in reality it is not. In fact iran is more deprived then compared to India.
India is not the USA or western Europe, very true. But Indian economy is not dollars, its rupees. If the per capita income of India is drastically less than western countries then the cost of living in India is also drastically less than compared to western countries.
India is a country of beggars? Then what is iran, the country of ayatollahs, suicde bombers, hizbollah and terrorists? Of course the are, thats y you rats had to run away from your own country.
"Have you read the book "a Fine Balance" (by the way written by a Parsi Indian)? All successful books and movies from India is about misery and you dare to call other nations miserable. You see I hate to rub people's misery in the face but you're so low that bring me now to your level."
Written by a parsi you said, I hope you do know what a parsi is
In a country of 1 billion population its obvious there will b poor ppl, even USA has ppl living in ghettos and a skilled moviemaker can make a movie on the ghettos of US and show America as a ghetto country. But I guess its already happening, look at the videos of balck hip-hop artists, they make videos where they show ghettos as battlefields for gangwars. Blacks are portrayed as drug addicts, violent criminals and sex maniacs whereas Barack Obama is also black and educated.
Dont talk about books here troll, Iran is a hellhole and thats the reason you are not posting from Iran. I dont need to quote a book here, stoning to death, moral police, ppl getting legally executed for not wearing islamic attire or not covering their face is ridiculous enough.
you do realise that as a refugee running away from a despotic ayatollah regime you have no right to laugh at others?
"There you're again. You use thousands of none Hindu words (thanks to Mughals) without even understanding the word."
"hindu word"? whats a hindu word you moron.
"Let me educate you: the word means "Owner". This actually proves my previous claim that India is a slave nation."
India is a slave nation for including words in its vocabulary which are non-Sanskrit in origin? LOL!!
Then what would you call i-ran a country who till today follow a religion not their own but that of their invaders, they have a moral police to enforce islamic laws (laws of a foreign religion), a country where your own ancient religion is outlawed?
find a word for that first refugee rat.
"You're so used to call your Mughal or British masters Sahib that the word has acquired new connotations in current India and has become completely normal."
the current word is "saab", not exactly sahib, and is used to addressed your superior be it Indian or otherwise.
Like i said, if I go to a foreign country and visit a store they will also address me as "sir" because thats what salesmen do. In fact i am surprised u dont know that, either you are too poor to visit a mall or ppl think u are too poor to address u as "sir" LOL!!!
Secondly using a foreign word is nothing compared to following a foreign religion and culture and calling it your own. Indians today still have hindusim as the main religion, the culture of India is still what it was thousands of years back. India will remain India till the end of time, but will i-ran ever be the pre-islamic country it was?
islam was forced upon the persians by invading arabs, just come to think of it, you guys were defeated and conquered by arab bedouins LOL!!! Not only that, the camel jockeying arabs also managed to enslave you persians both physically and mentally. Today the arabs are absent in iran but their legacy of islam and primitive culture still exists and will remain to exist.
"Funny statement coming from the most populous Muslim country called India."
yes, India is a country with a sizeable muslim population, but get your facts right, its indonesia not India which has the largest muslim population.
Like i said, India is a tolerant country where all ppl are welcome. We have Hindus, muslims, christians, sikhs, jews, zoroastrians (ironically India would have more zoroastrians then iranians ), buddhists, jains and every big and small religion u can think of.
Its our cultural diversity and we are proud of it. It shows our hospitality and benevolent nature. Muslims in India dont call themselves arab or get shot for not following shariat laws thought of by some reatard arab, so what exactly were u trying to prove?
"Let me ask you something? Is it worse to be a political refugee or to be the product of a beggar nation where they can't even feed their own people."
Firstly, its always a disgrace to b a refugee. Do you even know what "refugee" means? Let me educate u refugee rat, it means someone fleeing oppression and seeking "refuge" (shelter) in a foreign country or from someone more powerful then themselves.
So yes, being a refugee is bad, but what makes your condition even worse and pathetic that its not foreigners that are oppressing you but iranian ayatollahs who are following foreign religion and culture to opress fellow iranians. You ppl are slave to a foreign culture and religion even today LOL!!!
Secondly India not being able to feed its ppl is propaganda and a desperate flaming attempt by a persinan refugee rat, nothing else
"As a result, most Indians in the west are here because they don't have Basmati and Chapati back home. We are hear because we have issues with our Governement."
Indians in west are mostly hired by MNCs, LOL!!!! Look at the number of Indians working in high posts in foreign companies abroad. Take up a forbes magazine or any business magazine and compare the number of Indians featured there as compared to iranian pavement dwellers.
secondly what "our government" are you typing here. Why do you persians forget that you are foreigners living on charity in a foreign country. The ppl are not your ppl, the culture u follow in a foreign country is not your iranian culture, the language u speak while talking to your collegaues and most importantly your superiors is not your mother tongue, the taxes u pay and the laws u follow are that of a foreign land.
As if following foreign religion and culture in Iran was not enough u have to make furthur compromises in a foreign land. You try to ridicule Indians for having a word "sahib" in their vocabulary where you yourself live in a foreign language and speak a foreign tongue.
Look at yourself of refugee rat! Look at yourself and weep tears of shame before you talk to an Indian.
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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too
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Firstly because thats what u are and no matter how much you twist you wont b able to change this blunt fact.
Secondly being refugees you are willing to wear a dog collar bearing your masters name in it, being called a refugee is still small change. Besides iranian refugee rats are not exactly known for their sense of honour, are they?
"Well, actually I do. To put it in backward cast system terms you understand: to be called a Persian puts you right above the highest cast in India."
I understand, in present era iranians are refugees (as you yourself agreed) and they take refuge in the past, both imaginary and otherwise. Castewise iranians will fall lower than the lowest caste, secondly persian was a court language, not of the masses and it died with the mughals who used the persian language. So you are something like 150 years too late to use that comment.
Try something else.
"I stand corrected. Well at least they created a country for you guys."
They created a country? So what was India before the mughlas came, a barren land?
India existed as a country much before the muslim invaders came into India. In fact ancient India made much better scientific progress compared to medieval India because muslims lacked scientific though. Look at your own country, iran today is islamic and they have to photoshop missile tests because they cant manufacture their own missile.
"True they were easily sacked by Nader Shah but I admit at least the Mughals taught you something about warfare instead of doing Yoga all day and feeding mice in your temples and eating corpses to get supernatural powers."
mughals taught us about warfare? ROFLOL!!!!
Atleast read about the mughal empire in India before typing lies and praying to ur allah that they are true. The Mughals from the time of Akbar heavily depended on the Rajputs to in military and administrative matters. The Rajputs were the creme de la creme of the mughal army you moron. And the Rajputs by ethnicity and religion were not mughals. Before u talk furthur about mughals i suggesst u read about their history first.
you iranian rats very craftily try to paint mughal administration as a muslim rule over hindus whereas the reality was drastically different. The rajputs were alienated due to aurangzebs religious bigotry and that sounded the death knell for the mughal empire, meaning the mughals couldnt survive without rajput support. The later mughals were a sorry case of seeking protection from the maratha warlords and the sikh khalsa.
Secondly an iranian talking of war? You guys were defeated by arabs- of all ppl-, massacred like never before and never again by the mongols and you talking war here? Go back a little furthur and your country was plundered by Alexander as well, Greeks couldnt overrun India but they overran iran for sure.
Lastly the battle of thermopylae, 1 million persians were owned by 300 spartans LOL!!!
You losers couldnt even defeat 300 spartans inspite of heavily outnumbering them and here you talking war?
"Not really. At least we don't get to see that the name of our country evokes images of shantytowns and movies on it (again exploited by the British) and the Untouchables and honour killings."
I understand, since iranians lack self respect they are cool with the refugee tag.
images of shanty towns? what is the image of iran in western mind u refugee rat? Yeah, that of a despotic country where ppl can killed by the ayatollahs on a dilay basis for no fault of theirs.
"really? what is India today and what is the sh1thole today where u fled from?"
India today is a rising power, and the sh1thole you fled from is today buried under the earth. It is an islamic regime in iran u refugee rat, and you and your ppl will always remain refugees.
"India? Still a ****hole that can't feed its own people with some privileged ones living good. You are still a slave nation you just exchanged your master. Now you suck Uncle Sam's *** while your farmers commit suicide in droves selling your rice at dumping prices to westerners while you own people go hungry. Shame on you."
desperate lies by a refugee rat. "some privilged ones" u said, the "some priviliged ones" or the middle class of India is the worlds largest and easily outnumbers the population of iran, so STFU thr refugee rat.
exchanged our master? LOL!!! No refugee rat, India is the largest democracy in the world where the Indians elect their own govt. What do the iranians do? Hold a sham election where the results are a foregone election, a couple of ppl protest and they get killed (refer to the last election).
US is not our master, US is our trading partner. The US sh1ts on your country whereas they sign a nuclear pact with India. US has respect for India and sanctions for Iran, LOL!!! India is a nuke and ballistic missile power, whereas the ayatollahs are sh1t scared to test a nuclear bomb lest they annoy their americcan masters.
"We protest against our Government and don't take **** from our own Government while you live in a corrupt hungry nation with a minority living better calling yourself a power. That makes you an imbecil."
protest against a govt not answerable to you, protest and get killed by them, LOL!!! protest for the sake of protest to gain some TRP points and showcase how pathetic your lives are in i-ran and whimper down once the ayatollahs crackdown on your protesters. Was anyone brought to justice for the death of the iranian girl who was killed in the protests?
and in future please dont type "your government", you are a refugee rat taking refuge in a freoign country to escape prosecution. You are no representative of iran as the ayatollahs dont give a sh1t about you.
"Not really because India was the toilet of Asia. Every country would take a dump on it and I guess had eaten too much Kebab that day. In fact, even countries from other continents managed to enslave a sub-continent I repeat a sub-continent for Centuries. As far as Nader Shah is concerned, he was called the Napoleon of Persia. He consolidated Iran's borders and defeated Iran's enemies at all borders. In other words, he was a general and he fought for 30 years and obviously he had a lot of expenses. So, he looted the Mughals that ruled your ass for centuries. If anything you should be thanking him for doing that."
LOL!!! India was much richer than iran ever can hope to be and is still richer than iran.
but an iranian whose country was plundered by greeks, mongols, arabs and still following arab legacy should not talk so loud.
"Really? God, you're so dumb. You don't know the first thing about Nader Shah.... I will post later something on his wars to educate your COOLIE ass."
i know, he is dead now and when he invaded the mughal empire he was constantly harrassed by the sikh khalsa. Read about them as well.
"Dumb-ass. A culture doesn't stop existing just because it is under attack. Did Indian culture disappear just because of Mughal? No,"
Really lying rat? Was it zoroastrian culture to have moral police and ayatollahs ruling the country?
Was it ancient persian culture to walk around in burkhas and get killed for appearing in public without a burkha? Was it ancient persian culture to offer your collective arse to allah 5 times a day? Was it anceint persian culture to have muharram, call yourself shias and turn muslims and strictly enforce islamic law all over ur country?
"Iranian culture integrated and took new forms and when Mongol Khans came they adopted names like "shahrokh" and started writing Persian poetry and were Persianized. That only happens when the culture of the deafeated people is too strong. You get it now?"
of course, mongols took names like shahrokh, LOL!!!!
Mongols wrote persian poetry as well, ROFLOL!!! Didnt know the mongols were connosiurs of art and literature.
"Again. You want proof? I can educate your Coolie ass if you want to. However, somehow you seem beyond help"
however you know that no such thing happened. Mongols came and raped your country, plundered it to dust like no other country before was destoyed by an invading army ever in human history.
all these talks of mongols integrating into iranian culture is lies and propganda nothing else. Secondly lets assume what u write is true, so what, its some kind of consolation prize for you?
"Oooh my God. Ooooh my God. You're so stupid. These Mongols are different than the Turks that later attacked Iran and Anatolia. Are you sure you come from Asia?"
OK, so its the greeks, mongols, arabs and later turks as wellwho attacked and conquered iran
"I can see how good Indian education system is? Go back to school imbecil. You know 0 about Asia and its history."
awww.... refugee rat is angry now. Come on refugee rat, i didnt invade your country.
"Well, I agree with the part that your people need money. I agree... you can't feed your people. As much as I like to help you people feed your people I don't really watch Bollywood movies because they are so stupid. Such a raped language full of Persian and English words. It is sad but true."
It is sad but true that you refugees have to watch foreign movies because your own industry makes one movie in a decade.
Bollywood is bigger than your non-existent movie industry and it looks like iranians will have to make do watching them
"Correction: just because our languages belong to the same family of languages it doesn't mean you influenced us. Specially a language like Persian that is most probably more ancient than your beggar language Hindu."
this is priceless, you start you paragraph with "correction" and call hindu a language LOL!!! Looks like you never been to school. "our languages", what our languages refugee, sanskrit influenced indo-european languages. and your persian language didnt influence Sanskrit ever. So dont lie like everything in this world is iranian (except refugees)
"Is this how you justify the fact that even your language is raped? The fact that the world is globalized has nothing to do with preserving your own language. In countries like Germany and France it is forbidden to use foreign words in the news whereas you beggars don't care. You know what your problem is? You have no pride."
can u explain how a persian whose country, culture, religion and hsitory was raped by various invaders using the word rape so liberally? In India Sanskrit is still preserved, but preserving a language doesnt mean we go around shooting ppl. India is a free country and we dont have to be so insecure so as to make laws to preserve our language.
secondly a refugee who is taking refuge in a foreign country and has no problem being called a refugee is talking "pride"? Talk about pride the day when u live in Iran, talk about pride when you dont speak a foreign tongue in a foreign country to feed yourself, talk about pride when iran gets back its culture and throws off the islamic religion that was enforced upon it by invading arabs.
you guys follow the religion of your invader and feel proud of it and here u lecturing about pride?
"Loool Persian was the Lingua Franca of that region. Why do you think the Mughals chose Persian? Huh? Why?
They weren't Persian. Why?"
because they were as retarded as you persians and couldnt comprehend a superior language, thats why.
"The answer is simple. Persian was a cultured, the language of poetry and they tried to civilized your savage ancestors and yet they insisted on speaking the Brrrda Brrrda ugly gibberish."
poetry maybe for the mongols LOL!!!!
Mongols writing poetry in persian looks the same like a chimpanzee giving a discourse on nuclear physics, ROFLOL!!!
"Oooh ofcourse it is. That is why you still have a cruel cast system, honour killing, religious killings and Untouchables. Ooh yes. India is Discrimination on a grand scale."
Exxagerated propaganda by a desperate iranian refugee. India doesnt have a "cruel caste system, honour killing, religious killing, untoucbales" in the present century. There are hate crimes which are passed off as caste,honour, religious killings etc.
But one look at the Indian society is proof that India is a more tolerant, hospitable and tolerant society than the ayatollahs of i-ran. I mean i have seen pics in WAFF of iran before they were removed and posters warned for posting such graphic pics. Women were stoned to death for breaking islamic law, ppl executed for not wearing islamic attire and the article regularly bumped in ME forum where a young teenage girl was arped and later killed because her rape was interpreted by the ayatollahs as a sign of "adultery".
But i know you are aware of these things, thats the reason y you fled iran isnt it? So that you and your future generations dont have to face the oppression that your fellow iranians are facing. And to ensure that you are willing to live a refugee for the rest fo your life.
there is a old saying in english, "in a sinking ship the rats flee first". your country iran is sinking into a cesspool and you iranians refugees are fleeing your country. Thats why i call u refugee rats, r u clear on that now iranian refugee rat?
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When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
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I am not taking sides but to be honest I do see FN single-handed nailed down a group of persians
Yes, and the fact that your, and your bum buddy hawkss's failed attempt at flaming iranians in the den just recently, and then running to the turks and indians to make peace after we shut you the fvck down would not suggest otherwise, now would it?
ALL YOU uncle tom inferior complexed yankee doodle chinese and indian trolls want to do is to reassure yourselves througyh flaming that poor old sanctioned third worlded - enemy of the globe - iran could NOT POSSIBLY be developing as your great rich cultured empires are, who need to suck the teet of their american masters, so they might be able to make it up in the world and get their millions of poverty stricken masses out of the sewerage pipes they raise families in.
fvck off.
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When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too
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HBN seems to be bipolar one minute he's friends with someone the next minute he's making threads against someone.
I mean he opened up 3 threads because someone said european/korean/japanese cars are better than both Iranian and Chinese.
As for FN I'm actually proud of the little guy, he didn't use too many smiley faces, but comparing PR's post and his reply its pretty one sided.
I actually did not know Indians use the word sahib in reference to their superiors, that is even worst than calling someone master because sahib implies ownership. I have never heard someone use that word towards another human day. Oh well I guess you learn something each day.
But evertheless the Indian is getting better, at least his attention span seems to be improving, but alas quality does not equal quantity.
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I actually did not know Indians use the word sahib in reference to their superiors, that is even worst than calling someone master because sahib implies ownership. I have never heard someone use that word towards another human day. Oh well I guess you learn something each day.
Kia jan.
It was pretty funny watching him dig his own grave. Huh? He actually single-handedly managed to prove that they have used that word so often that it has acquired new connotations like Sir while he had no phucking idea what the word actually meant. On the other hand, claiming that their language has influenced other language yet not knowing what the word meant. Why? because it is not a Hindu word.
As we say it: Check mate.
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'Iran, facing UN sanctions, has sought India's expertise in upgrading its train operations, signalling system and electrical work besides training its personnel as part of its plans to modernise the railway system.'
Iran reportedly turned to India in 1993 to help develop batteries for the three
Kilo-class submarines Iran had bought from Russia. The submarine batteries provided
by the Russians were not appropriate for the warm waters of the Persian Gulf, and India
had substantial experience operating Kilos in warm water.
Iran is said to still seek Indian advice in
operating Irans missile boats, refitting of Irans T-72 tanks and armored personnel
carriers, and upgrades for its MiG-29 fighters.
\\The nation that is famous for calling any foreigner SAHIB calling others what they are famous for.\\
'Sahib' basically means 'Sir'. Its a word denoting respect.Not all Indians use this word, but only those people who are familiar with Urdu or Urduised Hindi.It has nothing to do with slavery as some Iranians are trying to potray.Some Indians use this word for everyone, both Indians and Non-Indians just as a courtesy.
Sahib (Arabic: , Hindi: , Urdu: ) (traditionally pronounced /s.ib/ or /sb/ in English, now often /shib/) is an Arabic term of respect, meaning Sir passed on to several languages including Hindi-Urdu (Hindustani),Punjabi, Bengali and Marathi.
The term sahib was applied indiscriminately to any person whether Indian or Non-Indian. This included Europeans who arrived in the Sub-continent as traders in the 16th Century and hence the first mention of the word in European records is in 1673.
\\loool what empire? India was always a slave nation. I know that. You know that too. Any nation that needed some booty would take a dump on India while Indians were concentrating on not hurting their cows and on substituting water with cow urine. \\
Can anyone care to substantiate this rubbish with proff ? In anceint times, It was India Which came to Iran's rescue when they were under the Greek occupation. It was the Indian Mauryan Empire which defeats the Greek occupier of Persia, Selecus Nikator.In the medeival times, the Mughal Empire ( who were decended from central asians and ironically spoke persian in court) fought with the Persian Safavids for supramacy of central Asia and Afghanistan.After the advent of Europeans in Asia, Indians were colonised for sure, but colonization was not slavery.Every country was colonised one time or other by various degrees including the Iranians.The Iranians themselves have this expereince with the Arabs and Mongols in the past and the British in modern Times.
Infact, After decolonization in 1947, India always followed an independent foreign policy.But outsiders always meddled in Iranian internal affiars even after decolonization, whether it was overthrow of the Mosaddeq in 1953 or propping up of the Shah.Iran was no different from Pakistan or Arab countries where the CIA overthrew the elite and replaced with a another section of the elite at its will.
\\Nader Shah pillaged where there was money. Why would he attack other wastelands? Exactly.\\
NadirShah did not attack other places (Delhi was nothing comparable to other cities in India in terms of wealth) because he could not.Nadir Shah's attack on Delhi in 1739 happened at a time when the Maratha's from Western India overthrew the Mughals and took all the territories from them- The west, the South, the East.Only Delhi remained in Mughal hands.The Mughals were no more than a small kingdom with no wortwhile army.Even before the Marathas approached Delhi, Nadir Shah pillaged whatever he took and fled.It was nothing more than a loot and skoot mission of a war lord.This is besides the fact that Nadirshah was ethenically not a persian, but a Central Asian Turk who adopted Persian language, and his loot mission only illustrates the wealth and richness of India which the barbarians from desert lands always coveted since centuries.
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Aryanarya, mate, of course india where the space industry complex is concerned is more advanced than irans, far be it from me to claim otherwise. But Indias space program is also much older and much more funded and it doesn't suffer from technological sanctions.
The question of engineering efficiency is a bit different; india sent its first satellite into orbit back in 1980 with a four stage vehicle, something iran managed to do in 2009 with a two stage vehicle. The distinctive difference is that irans space agency was only established in 2004 and its intial exposure to missile technology, from which it developed its later missiles, was limited to what it could obtain from the north koreans back in the 90's.
After Iran, the north koreans who were once more advaced than it and had once provided us long range missile technology, tried but failed in their 3rd attempt, I believe, to launch a satellite into space, with a 3 stage launcher at that. The reaon for this is due to efficiency. Technologically they were ahead of us in the 90s but we overtook and did something they've yet to accomplish.
Engineering efficiency could be broken down into; what are your goals, what are your technical issues that need to be overcome, how much funding do you need, how much manhours do you need and how many men do you have or need to do it. With that I'm going to remind you, as your probably well aware, that India plans to send its first man into space in 2015 35 years after 1980, before iran plans to do the same in 2021. If we are to look at the time differences between each program, its history and different factors playing into them then I would continue to argue that iran atleast in this field enjoys greater engineering efficiency than india.
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When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too
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First of all we are agreed here that all of you are iranians who are refugees in foreign land, correct? OK, lets proceed now.
"It was pretty funny watching him dig his own grave. Huh? He actually single-handedly managed to prove that they have used that word so often that it has acquired new connotations like Sir while he had no phucking idea what the word actually meant."
I told you the proper word is "saab" and is pronounced as saab, I actually gave you the benefit of doubt that it maybe sahib. Supposing the word is indeed a corruption of the word sahib what does it prove?
Bazaar, pyjama, yoga etc are Indian words that are used freely in English language, so? When countries have no achievements they hang on to past glories and illusions my dear refugee rat, and you are a prime example of that.
Supposing Indians are indeed backward for using just a word "saab" in their vocabulary then what would you call yourself who has to live in a foreign land among foreign ppl, obey foreign laws, pay taxes to a foreign govt and speak in a foreign tongue because u persian rat dont have the guts to live in your homecountry.
the word is refugee persian, and you are a refugee rat.
"On the other hand, claiming that their language has influenced other language yet not knowing what the word meant. Why? because it is not a Hindu word."
Not claiming, its a fact. Dont parade your foolishness so blatantly that you have no place to hide your shame. Sanskrit did influence Indo-european languages, same couldnt b said of persian because its a backward language and was used by mongols to write poetry, ROFLOL!!!!
It still cracks me up when like a retard u type that the mongols becmae persian and wrote poetry in persian language!!!
"As we say it: Check mate."
I guess next you will claim chess is iranian isnt it? Ahhh... love the way u guys learn to lie from such a young age.
dear persian rat, all you typed is lies, propaganda and baselees articles based on prejudice against India. India today is at a higher level than iran and will remain one.
Like i said persian rat, look at yourself and weep tears of shame. You are a refugee n will remain one forever.
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"The question of engineering efficiency is a bit different; india sent its first satellite into orbit back in 1980 with a four stage vehicle, something iran managed to do in 2009 with a two stage vehicle. The distinctive difference is that irans space agency was only established in 2004 and its intial exposure to missile technology, from which it developed its later missiles, was limited to what it could obtain from the north koreans back in the 90's."
moron, as time changes so does technical standards.
4 stage vehicle back in the 80s was advanced so India used it. And when did u rats ever manage to send a satellite to space u phucking liars? Just post pics of the rocket again, i remeber some persian rats went gaga over the pics which were ridiculously funny.
the iranian rats claim a lot of things but ground reality is different. India launches 12 sattelites in a single go, do something like that and then compare India with your pathetic sh1thole called i-ran. ppl run away so much from persia that today its know by the name i-ran and not persia.
These refugee rats ask for help from India and here they bark loud. I am actually surprised to find that the iranian refugee rats are actually replying back instead of submitting like good refugees. no country, no honour, no history, no culture and even the language they speak is foreign and here they try talking to Indians.
@Aryan arya- excellent post bro.
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LOL, do you know what Ostad Isa, Ostad Ahmad Lahauri and Abd ul-Haq all had in common?
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AryanArya you are also making mistakes in your explanations.. however all of this back and forth is not really about Iran or India. Most Iranians have nothing against Indians.. however when FN a fake Indian comes along and talks out of his ass then it is obvious that some of the Iranians will retaliate.
to be honest with you I don't think FN is really an indian any way why would a real proud indian always insult Muslims? and Islam? doesn't India have 160 million muslims? so when he insults Islam and muslims does he not also show disrespect to 14% of the Indian population?
Nader shah was a Iranian... he was from a Turkish tribe but he was Iranians pure and simple.... people need to realize that being Iranian is not about a race its about a culture and a way of life.
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4 stage vehicle back in the 80s was advanced so India used it
I guess it must have been a miracle that france, china and the united kingdom in 1965, 1970 and 1971 all used three stage launchers to send their first satellites into space.
btw i'll give you a hint with that last riddle i posed to you:
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Nader shah was a Iranian... he was from a Turkish tribe but he was Iranians pure and simple.... people need to realize that being Iranian is not about a race its about a culture and a way of life.
lol, definately not turkish bro, iranian turcoman of the afshar tribes, one of those most loyal iranian tribes. Iran was at war with the ottomans during those times.
Does this fool think iran only consists of persians?
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You elaborate on why your countrymen enjoy the taste of cow piss and I'll elaborate on the satellite launch.
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regarding cow piss, its a hoax but iranians being refugee rats
LOL, yes deny that which you cannot admit..
India makes cola from cow urine
To millions of devout Hindus, it's the real thing: a cola made from the urine of India's sacred cows.
By Dean Nelson in New Delhi
Published: 3:39PM GMT 11 Feb 2009
Hindus worship cows for their life-sustaining dairy products Photo: GETTY
The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, India's leading Hindu cultural group, has developed Gau Jal or Cow Water, at its research centre in the Indian holy city of Haridwar on the River Ganges, and hopes it will be marketed as a 'healthy' alternative to Coke and Pepsi.
Hindus worship cows for their life-sustaining dairy products, but many also consume bovine urine and faeces in drinks and spice mixes for their "health-giving" properties.
Varun Gandhi, youngest scion of Nehru-Gandhi dynasty, is behind barsIn some Indian states, cow dung and urine are sold in regular dairy shops alongside milk and yogurt, and "ayurvedic" Indian health food companies make porridge, toothpaste and tonic drinks which claim to cure ailments ranging from liver complaints to diabetes and cancer. The urine is also believed to have disinfectant properties while the dung is used in many Indian village huts as a clean and antiseptic flooring.
Now, the RSS's Cow Protection Department has invented a new urine-based soft drink it hopes will promote its health-giving properties to a wider market. "We refer to gau ark (cow urine) as gau jal (cow water) as it has immense potential to cure various diseases. We have developed a soft drink formula with gau jal as the base and it has been sent to a laboratory at Lucknow for testing," said director Om Prakash.
His team is now focusing on packaging, marketing, and of course preservation to stop its curative drink from going whiffy in the summer heat.
"It will be a revolution of sorts. The acceptance of cow urine as a potent medicine is increasing day by day and once it comes as a cold drink, its demand will definitely increase. It will prove and justify the high stature accorded to a cow in Indian culture." he added.
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\\Aryanarya, mate, of course india where the space industry complex is concerned is more advanced than irans, far be it from me to claim otherwise. But Indias space program is also much older and much more funded and it doesn't suffer from technological sanctions.\\
Dude, I did not talk about Indian space programme anywhere in my previous post.I only talked about the help which the Iranians got from India in diverse fields ranging from Railways to Defence.But if you are trying to compare Indian and Iranian space programmes, that would be even more hilarious ! I am disputing this not because i have anything against the Iranians.But simply because they are untrue. India launches satellites for other countries, is preparing for a Human space flight, recently sent a unmanned probe to moon and is preparing to send another satellite to Sun .Iranian space programme is still in its infancy.How can those two can be compared ?
\\Nader shah was a Iranian... he was from a Turkish tribe but he was Iranians pure and simple.... people need to realize that being Iranian is not about a race its about a culture and a way of life.\\
Fair enough ! But isnt the same defination applicable to Mughals in India's case ? I have heard some Iranians disputing the Indian nature of the Mughals simply because they are Muslims and adopted persian as their court language.The Mughals like Nadir Shah were initially from Central Asia.Nadir Shah settled in Persia.The Mughals settled in India.The Persian was the lingua franca of most of the muslim dynasties of that period.The ottoman script was Perso-Arabic.Will the ottomans become persians and Arabs ? The Mughals sure were a minority rulers in a Hindu dominated country.So was Nadir Shah.He was a Sunni in a Shia dominated country.
\\to be honest with you I don't think FN is really an indian any way why would a real proud indian always insult Muslims? and Islam? doesn't India have 160 million muslims? so when he insults Islam and muslims does he not also show disrespect to 14% of the Indian population? \\
When some Indians insult 'muslims', its because the other people attack Indians as 'Hindus'.Take this very thread.FN always said he is an atheist.Majority of Indian members in this forum are atheists.Inspite of that, the Iranians(as well as the turks and every other muslim people) in this forum repeatedly insulted Indians as 'Hindus' irrespective of their religious or non-religious affiliation.Hinduism is a religion, not a race or a country.But some people are so ignorant, they use it as a racial term. Then is it a suprise that FN and some other Indians retaliated by insulting everyone as 'muslims' irrespective of their nationalities ? The Indians insult 'muslims' as a retaliation, they dont have Indian muslims in mind,Only Non-Indian muslims who attack them.
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Dude, I did not talk about Indian space programme anywhere in my previous post.I only talked about the help which the Iranians got from India in diverse fields ranging from Railways to Defence.
Yes, I understand. I didn't dispute any help iran has gotten from india in railway or defence, I'm sure it has, I only used the space program as an example of what I said about engineering efficiency which you quoted me on.
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And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately points a finger at me
So I point one back at 'em
But not the index or the pinky or the ring or the thumb
It's the one you put up when you don't give a ****
When you won't just put up with the bull**** they pull
Cause they full of **** too
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I am at work now. Just wanted to clarify something.
You moron .... you took two words that are known to be Persian and claim it is Indian. Why do you people feel you should take credit for things that don't belong to you?
Idiot... just because you have that word it doesn't mean it is Hindu or Urdu. You have it because Mughals brought it to India but it has been adopted by English from Persian
The word Pyjama and Bazaar are Persian. Bazaar is simply a Persian invention. As "Park" is.
Let me ask you something? What does the word "Pyjama" means? Come on tell us. What does it mean?
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This message has been edited by Persian_revenge on Oct 27, 2009 1:44 PM
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^^ yeah, we are so grateful to you that you refugee rats allowed us to takeover bazaar and pyjama and pass it off as "hindu" words!!!
now scutter back to your sh1thole rat, rats like you who cant produce anything on their own always claim the history of others as their own.
working in a foreign country with foreign ppl speaking in a foreign tongue u refugee rat, dont u have shame that here u are talking about your phucked up persian culture and language? why dont u go back to persian if u find the language and culture so impressive.
I will tell u why, because u and ur fellow iranian rats here dont have the phucking courage to live in your own country.
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russia defends itself through iran with/without mollahs
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October 27 2009, 3:18 PM
therefore they will take care of no enemy on their south border, ie iran. they dont want israel, usa in iran, causasia, irak either.
il necessary, they would give AA s300 to iran, but, when istall in iran, they will be under russian control. this is the "contract". moreover, russia also need to sell its weapons, so, israel, usa should also offer financial compensation to russian oligarks.
The S300 could also already be in iran under rusian ownership, ready to be sold/used any time, as it is a mobile system.
the alternative stategy of the usa in the present time might rather be to improve its footing in latin america, than in asia vs rusia/china/india
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LOL, INDIA with 1 billion people is on the 2. place and Iran with 70 million is first!
It also reminded me of their sport performance they are behind every one in Asia, I think cow drink is not good before competitions.
TEHRAN (ISNA)-Iran came first in the third round of International Olympiad on Astronomy and Astrophysics (IOAA) for high school students receiving four gold, two silver and one bronze medals.
India finished second after claiming two gold, two silver and one bronze medals.
The Olympiad began last Sunday in Tehran with the presence of students from Belarus, Indonesia, Poland, Bangladesh, Greece, Brazil, Lithuania, Thailand, Sri Lanka, South Korea, India, Cambodia, Slovakia, Bolivia, Serbia, Romania, Kazakhstan, China, Ukraine and Iran.
The 4th round of IOAA will be held next year in China.
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I am not gonna answer your grade 7 repetitive gibberish. It is clear to everyone here that you're weak at debating and you're certainly weak at bashing.
Answer the question: if Pyjama is a Hindu word. What does the word mean?
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Bro, let it go just ignore this fool, he is just an attention whore! the more you pay attention to his nonsense the more he spread his mouth and legs open, and believe me you don't want to see a hairy monkey, rat worshiper in this position.
For his limited knowledge and low IQ, we shall call him Indian Baboon!
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"I am not gonna answer your grade 7 repetitive gibberish."
becuase u have no answer to my questions and my questions expose what you and ur tribe are- REFUGEE RATS!!
"It is clear to everyone here that you're weak at debating and you're certainly weak at bashing."
Says the troll who said that hindu is a language and mongols write poetry. I am still waiting for that gem of yours, can u name me some famous mongol poets who wrote poetry alongwith their works. Like u said, in persian of course. Dont get me any moron who "claimed" to b mongol but the mongol invaders who ransacked persian and then wrote poetry (of all things!!!) in persian.
"Answer the question: if Pyjama is a Hindu word. What does the word mean?"
I cant believe u are asking such a dumb question!! And i understand u are an ignorant buffoon whose family was too poor to send u to school but i think i told u that hindu is not a language
pyjama is used to describe a loose trouser (worn by cricketers) where py means foot and jama means cloth.
I hope i educated u enough now. Its obvious from questions like this that you are trying to evade from the trap you set yourself.
Now listen here refugee rat, your pathetic country is aimpoverished sh1thole which does not have enough food to feed its ppl, nor enough peace to make them stay. Dont ever think of comparing your garbage dump with India ever again.
Secondly a refugee rat who has to take REFUGE in a foreign land, speak foreign language to earn his bread should not bark so loud on matters relating to language.
Now since we are clear on this we can agree that iran is phucked up by Russia but has no other option than to tolerate this domestic abuse coz Russia and china r the only 2 countries proetcting iran.
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