http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091024/wl_afp/aseansummit

Asia looks to 'lead world' with EU-style bloc


AFP Thailand's Prime Minsister Abhisit Vejjajiva (L) welcomes Japan's Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama

by Danny Kemp Sat Oct 24, 1:46 pm ET

HUA HIN, Thailand (AFP) Asian leaders discussed plans at a summit Saturday to "lead the world" by forming an EU-style community, as regional giants China and India tried to cool a simmering border spat.

Japanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama pressed his regional counterparts to move towards the creation of an East Asian bloc and to take advantage of the region's more rapid recovery from the global recession compared to the West.

"It would be meaningful for us to have the aspiration that East Asia is going to lead the world," Hatoyama, who outlined proposals for the bloc after taking office last month, told the Bangkok Post newspaper.

The community would involve the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) with regional partners China, Japan, South Korea, India, Australia and New Zealand, Japanese officials have said.

But as the Japanese premier outlined his proposals, there was debate at the summit in the Thai beach resort of Hua Hin over whether the grouping would also include the United States.

Hatoyama said Tokyo's alliance with Washington was the "cornerstone" of Japanese policy but urged the region to "try to reduce as much as possible the gaps, the disparities that exist amongst the Asian countries".

East Asian nations would carry out a feasibility study for a huge free trade zone covering ASEAN, China, Japan and South Korea and also for a larger, looser grouping also involving India, Australia and New Zealand, officials said.

ASEAN leaders have been discussing plans to create their own political and economic community for Southeast Asia by 2015. They also launched the region's first ever human rights watchdog on Friday.

Increased integration has been a recurring theme of the meetings in Thailand, but rancorous rows over borders and human rights have dogged the summit.

Chinese premier Wen Jiabao agreed with his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh during talks on the sidelines of the summit Saturday to work towards narrowing differences on a long-simmering border dispute, Chinese state media reported.

Beijing has voiced its opposition to a recent visit by Singh to Arunachal Pradesh, an Indian border state at the core of the dispute, and to a planned visit there next month by the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader.

India and China clashed in 1962 in the area.

"The two sides agreed to continue talks, with the aim of incrementally removing the barriers to a solution that was fair and acceptable to both sides," the official Xinhua news agency said.

Indian officials would not confirm an agreement, but the country's external affairs ministry website said Singh "stressed that neither side should let our differences act as impediment to the growth of functional cooperation".

Host nation Thailand and neighbouring Cambodia however remained at loggerheads over the fate of fugitive former Thai leader Thaksin Shinawatra, after Cambodian premier Hun Sen offered him a job as his economic adviser.

Meanwhile, ASEAN leaders in a statement on Saturday urged military-ruled member state Myanmar to hold free and fair elections in 2010 but made no mention of detained pro-democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi.

The group has faced international criticism in the past for failing to press Myanmar's junta to free Suu Kyi. The Nobel Peace Prize winner was sentenced to a further 18 months under house arrest in August.

The statement also said that communist North Korea should "comply fully with its obligations" under UN Security Council resolutions on its nuclear programme and urged it to return to multi-nation disarmament talks.

Around 18,000 troops and dozens of armoured vehicles have been deployed in Hua Hin after the Asian summit was twice postponed by anti-government protests, with another 18,000 on standby or on duty in Bangkok.

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East Asian nations would carry out a feasibility study for a huge free trade zone covering ASEAN, China, Japan and South Korea and also for a larger, looser grouping also involving India, Australia and New Zealand, officials said.


Any East Asian bloc that includes India, Australia and New Zealand automatically becomes an irrelevant fake "grouping."

Imagine the EU having to accept Nigeria (India) and Turkey and Iran (Australia and New Zealand.) Nothing would ever get done because n1ggas and honkies would be hijacking the agenda and fvcking up everything.

An East Asian bloc should have East Asians.

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Only China, Korea and Japan, no one else.

Otherwise go to hell

No Taiwan?



















When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.

N.Korea and Taiwan automatically included

omg and these star trek suits

they look like romulans

What's wrong with ASEAN?

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asean is ok.

they are soon to be our purpet...

Maybe they can start by first figuring out how the EU actually works. =D


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china is already communist

they wont have problems adopting eu style administration

What's wrong with ASEAN?

Except for Singapore and Thailand. Too many darkies.

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The EU style economic bloc should only be mature Asian economies such as China(HK included), S.Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, & Philippines. Taiwan would not be included as they are not recognized as a sovereign state. Economic benefits for Taiwan can be enjoyed once they reunify with the Chinese.

Oh yeah, this is going to go down well. Two democracies a couple of communist nations are going to come together and develop a common trading block such as that in the EU. Yeah, whatever.

ASEAN + 3 (China, Korea, Japan) economic union is highly feasible and of immeasurable mutual benefit to all. The latter 3 countries are all top 10 world economies, highly interdependant and tied extremely close together in this sense. Some tensions aside, there is no denying that they have everything to gain and nothing to lose, but it's for the former reason that it'll never go beyond into the realms of a political union. But everyone gets to make a few extra bucks, and when did the CCP ever let anything get in the way of new economic opportunities? We'll all come out a little richer and that's all that matters, we're not really into grandiose fantasies like some of the smaller EU members have of being part of a new superpower.


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No India, Australia and New Zealand, this is for east Asian nations only. Admitting them is like the EU admitting Turkey, Jordan and Morocco.

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HAHAHHAHA...

Can you believe these Chinese small penis gooks, nippers, chinks and what not??

They mention Turkey as if to say their 3rd world chit hole is supposedly better than Turkey!!!

Oh dear Lord!!! What is the world coming to?

Kevin Rudd's vision for Asia-Pacific community evolves
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Patrick Walters, National security editor | October 26, 2009

Article from: The Australian
KEVIN Rudd's concept of an Asia-Pacific community by 2020 has been canvassed at the weekend's East Asia summit in Thailand together with a rival vision from new Japanese leader Yukio Hatoyama.

East Asian leaders meeting in Hua Hin yesterday discussed the broad regional architecture, with the Prime Minister promoting his plan both at the formal leaders' meeting and in a series on bilateral discussions.

"What I detect across the region is an openness to a discussion about how we evolve our regional architecture into the future," Mr Rudd said yesterday.

"It's important that we are in a conscious discussion and a conscious process to evolve options for regional institutions in the future rather than just sitting back and waiting for big problems to emerge."

Mr Hatoyama's plan is for the creation of an East Asian Community based firmly on the existing ASEAN regional institutions, which could exclude the US.

"You might ask Mr Rudd if his idea is more of an institutional approach than a functional approach," Japanese government spokesman Kazuo Kodama told journalists at the summit.

Mr Rudd also took the opportunity to lobby regional leaders on his plan in a series of bilateral talks with heads of government from South Korea, Japan, New Zealand and The Philippines.

Mr Rudd also announced Australia would provide $50 million to help deploy civilian experts into disaster and conflict zones in the Asian region.

"The government will create a register of up to 500 Australian specialists who will be able to be deployed overseas at rapid notice.

"They will be drawn from both the public and private sectors," he said.

Mr Rudd also confirmed the ASEAN-Australia-New Zealand free trade agreement, signed this year, will formally come into force on January 1.

The agreement between the 10 ASEAN economies and Australia and New Zealand brings closer together 12 regional economies, with more than 600 million people and a combined GDP of $3.1 trillion.

Mr Rudd said the agreement would cover 20 per cent of Australia's two-way trade, worth $112 billion, and eliminate tariffs on 96 per cent of our exports to ASEAN nations by 2020.

The FTA covers tradable goods as well as services, investment, intellectual property and e-commerce.

The nations covered by the AANZFTA are the 10 ASEAN member states: Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Burma, The Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam, as well as Australia and New Zealand.

On Saturday, Mr Rudd met Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao to discuss the proposed Asia-Pacific community as well as the upcoming Copenhagen climate summit and bilateral issues, including the case of Stern Hu, the senior Rio Tinto executive held in detention by Chinese authorities since early July.

Mr Rudd said the Hu case was the subject of "intense and continuing discussion between the foreign ministries of China and Australia".

"My purpose in raising these matters today was simply to highlight the fact that this was a continuing matter of concern to Australia, and I will continue to do so in the future," he said.

Foreign Minister Stephen Smith said yesterday that bilateral relations with Beijing were getting back to "business as usual" in the wake of the Hu case.

"Whilst we've had some significant tensions in the relationship, we believe very much in the last month or so things are getting back to business as usual, and that's a very good thing with a very important relationship," Mr Smith said.

"We continue to urge the Chinese authorities to bring this matter to a conclusion as quickly as possible, to expedite it."






http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26259137-5001561,00.html





This has been Kevin Rudd's idea so it will have Australia in it

Australia has a bigger Economy than South Korea.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

Rank Country GDP (millions of USD)
World 60,917,477[4]
European Union 18,387,785[4]
1 United States 14,441,425
2 Japan 4,910,692
3 China 4,327,448h
4 Germany 3,673,105
5 France 2,866,951
6 United Kingdom 2,680,000
7 Italy 2,313,893
8 Russia 1,676,586
9 Spain 1,601,964
10 Brazil 1,572,839
11 Canada 1,499,551
12 India 1,206,684
13 Mexico 1,088,128
14 Australia 1,013,461
15 South Korea 929,124
16 Netherlands 876,970
17 Turkey 729,983
18 Poland 527,866
19 Indonesia 511,765
20 Belgium 506,183



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_Pacific

The Asia-Pacific region generally includes:
Australia
Brunei
Cambodia
People's Republic of China
Hong Kong
Macau
Taiwan
Fiji
India
Indonesia
Japan
Kiribati
North Korea
South Korea
Laos
Malaysia
Marshall Islands
Federated States of Micronesia
Nauru
New Zealand
Palau
Papua New Guinea
Philippines
Samoa
Singapore
Solomon Islands
Thailand
Timor-Leste
Tonga
Tuvalu
Vanuatu
Vietnam
United States Territories:
American Samoa
Guam
Northern Mariana Islands


Remember its the The Pacific Century not the Asian century.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Century

The Pacific Century is a term that has been used to describe the 21st century through analogy with the term American Century. The implicit assumption underlying the usage of the term is that the 21st century will be dominated, especially economically, by the Pacific Rim states surrounding the Pacific Ocean, in particular China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the ASEAN members, Australia, Russia, Canada, Mexico, and the United States. This idea can be compared to the historical Eurocentric viewpoint. The term Asian Century is now more commonly used, shifting greater emphasis towards Asia to include countries like India.
Critics of the term believe it incorrectly describes the 21st century and overstates the importance of the states around the Pacific Rim.

Depends on which figures you prefer. In the mood for nitpicking or what? :P

GDP (ppp)

1 United States 14,264,600
2 China 7,916,4291
3 Japan 4,354,368
4 India 3,288,345
5 Germany 2,910,490
6 Russia 2,260,907
7 United Kingdom 2,230,549
8 France 2,130,383
9 Brazil 1,981,207
10 Italy 1,814,557
11 Mexico 1,548,007
12 Spain 1,396,881
13 South Korea 1,342,338
14 Canada 1,303,234
15 Turkey 915,184
16 Indonesia 908,242
17 Iran 819,799
18 Australia 795,305



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I only want culturely related countries to form blocks.

The real Eastern Asians are Mongols, Chinese (including Taiwan, HongKong), Korea's, Japan. Vietnam maybe too (but Vietnam is already in AESEA they feel more close to others ).

Singapore is mainly Chinese but their location no good so out.

To the rest in South East Asia I have total no feeling with them.

If they want to create a Union including all the jerks, Aussies Malays they go we out anyway in 20 years our GDP will be over 20 trillion (PPP over 30 trillions) we with ourselves are already #1 mega super power we will DECIDE.

Who cares LOL

Gentlemen, the world is going to breakdown into 4 socio-economic blocks...

North & South America
Orient (including Japan, India, China and those bastard whities in Australia, too...sorry Panda)
Europe (including Russia)
Middle East and Africa

...the only question is how fast.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

Let's see..

Here's what's already established

European Union- moving the furthest along, all that's missing is an EU president which is in debate.
African Union
ASEAN
South Asian Association- kinda worthless
Gulf Cooperation Council
Union of South American Nations

Proposed/In the making:

Anglo-American Union
North American Union
Central Asian Union.
East Asian Community

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Turkey will naturally move into its former Ottoman territories.

What no Indian Blackies in the Union?

LOL man

@ drunkface

Yeah, Ok, whatever.

@ NG76

You look upon supra-national organizations with distrust? They are inevitable due to three facts...

1. Energy will become more expensive.
2. Similar cultures tend to aggregate over time.
3. The problems we face (as a species) are global in nature.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

HBN get over your self. If it wasn't for Australia china would not be able to build with out our cheap iron at the speed that they have had. So many of you a racist towards Australia and most of south east Rasia. Unreal. Remember wasn't long ago china was a 3rd world country and all this growth has gone to your heads. Foreign aid from country's like Australia and USA help build your country. Though i dont think all of china is like this only the 12 year old keyboard warriors. LOL

No worry we will send some our species into space

First occupy Moon then Mars then Sun

HBN get over your self. If it wasn't for Australia china would not be able to build with out our cheap iron at the speed that they have had. So many of you a racist towards Australia and most of south east Rasia. Unreal. Remember wasn't long ago china was a 3rd world country and all this growth has gone to your heads. Foreign aid from country's like Australia and USA help build your country. Though i dont think all of china is like this only the 12 year old keyboard warriors. LOL

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Foreign aid LOOOOOOOOOOOL

Chinese build China by its own hard working people, China has 150 years down time period now we are back trust me many Chinese are already thinking occupying Australia in 30 years so go to suck yanks di.ck to protect you but we will come to grasp you and free the natives

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

You look upon supra-national organizations with distrust? They are inevitable due to three facts...

1. Energy will become more expensive.
2. Similar cultures tend to aggregate over time.
3. The problems we face (as a species) are global in nature.

Looks at sig

I'm actually PRO union, especially the UNA (United North America, US+Canada), NOT NAU which includes Mexico. Although i have it in my sig, i'm against Mexican integration lol.

Some good points though, the future of this world will be decided by Power blocks. Cooperation is key.

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"No worry we will send some our species into space "

Which species would that be?

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

HBN in 30 years time your country will have a water problem and then Australia will sell to you at a price LOL! China will have lots of problems if you think 1 billion people will have a middle class like Australia or Europe.

In 30 years, Australia goes back to the aborigines.

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"Looks at sig"

I'm as patriotic a Canadian as they come, but I refuse to allow my government to expect my support simply because I happen be born here, I expect them to earn that support through wise policies and actions.

"I'm actually PRO union, especially the UNA (United North America, US+Canada), NOT NAU which includes Mexico. Although i have it in my sig, i'm against Mexican integration lol."

I think it's a bit late for that...although if you launch a "War on Illegal Immigration" by attacking the job supply for them, instead of the immigrants themselves, you might be able to tame the flood to a mere stream. Actually I'm pretty convinced that the union between the two towers...err, America's will be the last one to occur.

"Some good points though, the future of this world will be decided by Power blocks. Cooperation is key."

Most definitely, right now there is an imbalance between the mobility of capital and the mobility of labour, but like all natural systems it has a tendency to right itself. Once you get to a certain level of expertise in any field, national borders really don't make much of difference already and that is with dirt cheap energy costs.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

Gentlemen, the world is going to breakdown into 4 socio-economic blocks...

Orient (including Japan, India, China and those bastard whities in Australia, too...sorry Panda) . .
. . .


There is no "socio" relationship between India and Australia to China, Japan, Korea, etc. It's like pulling something out of your arse and saying that the Congo has a "socio" relationship to Luxembourg. Difference race, culture and everything else.

Economically India is less significant to East Asia than Panama. And Australia is no different than Saudi Arabia when it comes to economics. It sells raw material and that's it.

The EU is a viable organization today because it is culturally and racially similar. If you put in Morocco, Turkey and Libya into the the EU, the cultural integrity is gone.

That is what would happen if you put fvcking country like India into the East Asian grouping. It automatically makes the East Asian organization unworkable.




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Wait wait no Black Indians Panda??? you mean it seriously???

I'm as patriotic a Canadian as they come, but I refuse to allow my government to expect my support simply because I happen be born here, I expect them to earn that support through wise policies and actions.

In regards to the NAU/UNA? Well, it's inevitable between the US/Canada at least, we've had the longest undefended border in the history of the world and there's too many similarities between our peoples. The only thing missing is a common currency and a single flag lol. Which i really don't mind, others may be sentimental about the issue.

I think it's a bit late for that...although if you launch a "War on Illegal Immigration" by attacking the job supply for them, instead of the immigrants themselves, you might be able to tame the flood to a mere stream. Actually I'm pretty convinced that the union between the two towers...err, America's will be the last one to occur.

Between US/CAN? Why would it be the last one to occur?

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"There is no "socio" relationship between India and Australia to China, Japan, Korea, etc. It's like pulling something out of your arse and saying that the Congo has a "socio" relationship to Luxembourg. Difference race, culture and everything else.

Economically India is less significant to East Asia than Panama. And Australia is no different than Saudi Arabia when it comes to economics. It sells raw material and that's it.

The EU is a viable organization today because it is culturally and racially similar. If you put in Morocco, Turkey and Libya into the the EU, the cultural integrity is gone.

That is what would happen if you put fvcking country like India into the East Asian grouping. It automatically makes the East Asian organization unworkable. "


turkiye is nothing like australia because turkiye is a developing country the only reason why we cant join is that its because of cyprus and the so called armenian genocide thats why we cant join and by the way we turks and the turks in central asia are working together for a turkish union block

"Economically India is less significant to East Asia than Panama. And Australia is no different than Saudi Arabia when it comes to economics. It sells raw material and that's it. "

Australia has a population density 21M people on 7.5M sqkm, a highly developed economy, and a well educated population...trust me they will no problems finding other partners. As for India, it has a huge population and if they can clean up their government, massive potential...if not immediately available resources, in particular labour. As for density, it has a lower population density than either Taiwan or South Korea and I don't think you can argue either of those could be considered failures...unless of course you believe in some pathetic form of genetic superiority that they can't replicate your successes, because they don't look like you.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

Big Fat Panda Bear you see thats why your not president or even work in government because you have no clue.

^ HAHAHAHAH what a fu[king idiot and he lives in america and loves white chicks

"Between US/CAN? Why would it be the last one to occur?"

No the one between North and South America....the US/CAN is already done, were just sorting out the details now, look at the bailout of the auto industry. Although, oddly, the US border is one of the...harder borders to get through, but then again I was crossing it once a month. What a pain in the ass that job was...but damn it, it was fun.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

@coalde, good point. Btw what job did you have that required you to travel excessively?

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I used to do Trade Shows and tech calls and such for network gear maker. I lived out of hotels for a year...I had a CD with the first song, "We are the Road crew", by Motorhead for the inevitable rental car.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

As long as its purpose is purely economical, and doesn't evolve into a political unit, I wouldn't mind having Australia in it. Of course, being so culturally and racially different, as well as being on different continents mean it wouldn't be Asian anymore and shouldn't be called so.


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"As long as its purpose is purely economical, and doesn't evolve into a political unit, I wouldn't mind having Australia in it. Of course, being so culturally and racially different, as well as being on different continents mean it wouldn't be Asian anymore and shouldn't be called so."

Call it the international union of fudge packers or whatever you want. In my suggestion, no doubt the rest of the world will speak of the IUFP and it's heroic effort to save the species from itself. It could be quite an amusing debate amongst future historians regarding what that strange "IUFP" symbol could mean.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

Australia has a population density 21M people on 7.5M sqkm, a highly developed economy, and a well educated population...trust me they will no problems finding other partners.

Fook, then why don't we have Finland in the East Asian bloc, they're developed too

Australia doesn't belong in an East Asian bloc. There is already Apec which Australia belongs to.

The only reason Australia would be in an East Asian bloc is to sabotage it.


As for India, it has a huge population and if they can clean up their government, massive potential...if not immediately available resources, in particular labour.

Nigeria has massive potential too

Neither Nigeria nor India is East Asian.

Let's face it. We know Turkey would fvck up the EU if it got it. That's why you whities won't let them in. And Turkey is far closer racially to Europe than India or Australia is to East Asia.

India will fvck up an East Asian regional bloc and Australia will do everything it could sabotage it because its ultimate loyalty is to other white states not to East Asian ones.

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I am always pitiful of a man who can live in such multi-cultural world and not see the positive effects of it. Geology and Paleontology seem to prove that the most successful species are adaptable. The wider the scope of the base from which to adapt from the more possibilities.

Watch out, next I'm pulling out the Chewbacca Defence, and we wouldn't want your head to explode...it makes a mess when that happens.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

Why doesn't the EU accepted Libya, Algeria or Morocco? They far closer to Europe than Australia is to the East Asian mainland. You fvcking white hypocrite LOL

The ONLY reason Australia and India are being foisted on the East Asian community is to destroy the East Asian ability to coalesce.

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Fake grouping or not, that will be the reality Chinese dudes. Its a take it or leave it option for the chinese.Either you have India in the grouping or you dont have the grouping at all. The Japanese, Singaporeans, the Vietnamese all want India is East Asia grouping for obvious reasons ! LOL


This is similar to the diplomatic postures that happened before the First East Asia Summit in 2005. The Chinese were whining that India should not be included.The Japanese and the Vietnamese were equally demanding that India should get included.At the end, India was included in East Asia Summit and the Chinese foreign ministry gave a belated statement that it supports India's increasing role in East Asia ! LOL


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"Why doesn't the EU accepted Libya, Algeria or Morocco? They far closer to Europe than Australia is to the East Asian mainland. You fvcking white hypocrite LOL"

Who knows, if those countries demonstrate enough responsibility and maturity...and similarity of purpose, that Europe as a whole seems to represent, it might happen. Their alternative is Africa and the Middle East...I know which I would choose to emulate as a future for my children.

"The ONLY reason Australia and India are being foisted on the East Asian community is to destroy the East Asian ability to coalesce."

I don't think anything will be foisted onto anyone at anytime...we will as you say coalesce (good one!) at whatever rate the individual constituents allow it, no more, no less.

The other likely alternate would be for India to dominate a competing economic block through central Asia and the Middle East with strong ties to the Europeans, and due to their obvious close ties to the UK and geography. The EU would no doubt would welcome Australia tomorrow...unfortunately not a single person could explain that its future lies in Europe and not Asia, not without bursting into laughter at any rate...and the future is the only thing we can change.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

...ohh wait...

Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

[Panda]
Damn it!... He's using the Chewbacca defense!

Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.[1]

[pulls out monkey puppet]

Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!

[BOOM...where's the mop!?!]

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

some one mentioned north korea i dont think its possible since they got the embargo from Japanese and Koreans

"some one mentioned north korea i dont think its possible since they got the embargo from Japanese and Koreans "

Guys...I am not saying this amalgamation is happening next week, but in 10 or 20 years, there won't be a North Korea...and that will be a minor event in history, no different from stranded Japanese soldiers on islands and die hard Nazis finally giving up after the conflict had been decided.

I can only hope that our future differences can be resolved in a more...civilized manner, as none of us can survive if we don't.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

they have to be like turkiye a bit take the armenian and karabah dispute for example turkiye and azerbaijan needs this because with out it then there wont be a turkish block at all but one problem with us is that Ilham Aliyev this guy remindes me of when the kemalist were leaders instead of sucking on american and israeli balz they are su[king on russian and israeli balz which is similar to history back in the day

Fake grouping or not, that will be the reality Chinese dudes. Its a take it or leave it option for the chinese.Either you have India in the grouping or you dont have the grouping at all.

It will simply become an irrelevant grouping where nothing gets down.

India is completely irrelevant as a trade partner to the region. China is the top trading partner to every country from Japan on down. India is a little black monkey left at the corner in a house of yellow slanty-eyes.

The idea is not to just have a grouping but whether to have a grouping that can accomplish anything.

For example, there is no way India will allow a Free Trade Agreement to happen in a grouping with China because its industries are too primitive and will get annihilated.

So that means whatever grouping India is in will never get a FTA across all member countries because India is such a black duck that it can't be accommodated in any real agreements.

Dude, that's why they are already talking about China, Japan and South Korea free trade region and the ASEAN plus Three. The East Asian Summit has already become an irrelevancy because there is no way to bridge India (even more than Australia) because East Asian nation trade with each other and India is an irrelevancy that sits behind the highest tariffs in Asia.

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panda is always paranoid of Indians, good thing




colours of Kaziranga

they have to be like turkiye a bit...

Look how this weasel tries to bring his craphole of a country in.. S T F U and G T F O you dumb turd mongol. WTF's wrong with you? Know your place and stay near Ghana or Nigeria, whatever continent you're on.



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Tu dhoop hain jham se bikhar
Tu hai nadee o bekhabar
Beh chal kahin ud chal kahin
Dil khush jahan teri toh manzil hai wahin.

like turkey? you mean insurgents controlling half the country and islamists bombing the other half? lol great!

^ pkk is finished and they are cornered right into northern iraq( they were in syria then pissed off and armenia and pissed off and iran and pissed off to one place iraq)

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@wootness please use this and when i mean it i meant it like stick it up you as$

STFU and go troll somewhere else your turd-burglar. Don't you have a kebab shop to run? Your 16 brothers and 12 sisters won't pay for themselves y'know. YELLAH YELLAH HABIBI..or in your case....gilbim gilbimg gilbim kiss kiss!




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Tu dhoop hain jham se bikhar
Tu hai nadee o bekhabar
Beh chal kahin ud chal kahin
Dil khush jahan teri toh manzil hai wahin.

shut up you slave go work at maccers hungry jacks kfc with your indian cousin slaves at least we own something not work like slaves so you stfu troll stop comparing people that fu[ked indians up

\\It will simply become an irrelevant grouping where nothing gets down. \\


Instead of whining everytime India is included in East Asia summits, why dont the chinese reject the proposals.No one is actually forcing them.The chinese will do what is in their best interests.Why whine everytime when you know you cant change anything and will simply issue a statement in the end supporting India's inclusion as it happened in previous East Asia summits ? LOL


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\\India is a little black monkey left at the corner in a house of yellow slanty-eyes. \\


Ironically, its the yellow slanty eyes who are supporting India's inclusion in East Asia summit because they mistrust other yellow slanty eyes ! The biggest supporters of India's inclusion in East Asia summit are the Japanese and the Vietnamese ! LOL


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\\For example, there is no way India will allow a Free Trade Agreement to happen in a grouping with China because its industries are too primitive and will get annihilated. \\


India in talks with China for free trade pact ! LOL


http://www.ptinews.com/news/346662_India-in-talks-with-China-for-free-trade-pact



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\\So that means whatever grouping India is in will never get a FTA across all member countries because India is such a black duck that it can't be accommodated in any real agreements.Dude, that's why they are already talking about China, Japan and South Korea free trade region and the ASEAN plus Three \\


Dude, what are you smoking ? India already signed FTA with Asean ! LOL



http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-08/13/content_11877494.htm


BANGKOK, Aug. 13 (Xinhua) The ASEAN economic ministers and Indian Minister of Commerce and Industry Anand Sharma on Thursday signed a long-awaited free trade agreement (FTA) for trade in goods after over six years of intense negotiations.

The historic signing occurred at the meeting of the 41st ASEAN Economic Ministers (AEM), which has been hosted here during August12-16.


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Let Noble Thoughts Come to Us from All Sides- RigVeda

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