Even Wikipedia thinks you are wrong, Marc...

The Future Offensive Air System was a study which sought to replace the Royal Air Force's strike capability currently provided by the Tornado GR4. Initial operation capability was expected around 2017. The FOAS was cancelled in June 2005.[1]

Cancellation
In March 2005 the UK joined the United States' Joint-Unmanned Combat Air System programme.[2] In December 2005 the UK government published its Defense Industrial Strategy, a part of which was the announcement of increased funding for UCAV technology de-risking and development and the funding for a UCAV Technology Demonstrator Program.[3] The 2006 US Quadrennial Defense Review stated that the J-UCAS program would be terminated.[4]

Options
The capability required may have been provided by any number of systems;

New build aircraft, for instance the BAE HALO or BAE Replica demonstrator.
Development of current aircraft For example a variant of the Eurofighter Typhoon or the F-35 Lightning II.
Unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) BAE_Corax,
Standoff missiles (Storm Shadow) launched
from next generation strike aircraft
possibly from large, cheap non-penetrating aircraft (Airbus A400M)
Mix of above systems
BAE Taranis is the likely succesor to FOAS.

Contractors
Two industry teams were competing for the contract, one led by BAE Systems and the other by LogicaCMG.

BAE Systems team
Alenia Marconi Systems
Lockheed Martin
Northrop Grumman
MBDA
EADS Astrium
Royal Military College of Science

LogicaCMG team
Raytheon
QinetiQ
EADS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Offensive_Air_System





"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1256507791/last-1256665973/Only+1+CVF+to+be+completed+as+an+aircraft+carrier-

HERE, everyone can SEE for themself how you lied about it and tried to take credit for a JSF contender design pretending the Replica mock-up was it.

Posting a wiki link and trying to twist your way around your self-ownage wont change anything.


http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/foas/

This consiptual design was done BEFORE FOAS was launched when BAe and Dassault were already working on a similar conceipt in replacement of the Tornado fleet.


= June 1, 1999: European AeroSystems, the British Aerospace-Dassault joint-venture (JV) set up to design, develop and build Europe's next generation of combat aircraft, is nine months old and feeling its way cautiously in an uncertain world. Though it will not cut any production metal for years, by the end of this year it will have 140 employees at its twin headquarters: St Cloud, near Paris, and BAe's combat aircraft production facility at Warton in Lancashire. By the end of next year, this number will have swelled to 180 and the year alter that to 230.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-57563317.html

2) Proves your previous post WRONG. July 2001
When the FOA/FOAS studies were launched this proved to be doubly awkward, as BAe and Dassault had already signed an agreement outlining their mutual desire to collaborate on whatever combat aircraft programme succeeded Eurofighter and Rafale. The ban was soon extended to encompass other European nations and, despite almost 10 years-worth of talks to shift it, it remains in force.
http://www.janes.com/aerospace/military/news/idr/idr010706_2_n.shtml


3) Proves ME RIGHT. January 2001
Without resolution on the stealth issue, the official warned, Dassault, in which EADS has a large shareholding, might be forced to withdraw from European Aerosystems, its combat aircraft joint venture with BAE.
http://www.janes.com/defence/air_forces/news/jdw/jdw010122_1_n.shtml

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Interavia Business & Technology, June, 1999 by Nick Cook
12Next ..European AeroSystems, the British Aerospace-Dassault joint-venture (JV) set up to design, develop and build Europe's next generation of combat aircraft, is nine months old and feeling its way cautiously in an uncertain world. Though it will not cut any production metal for years, by the end of this year it will have 140 employees at its twin headquarters: St Cloud, near Paris, and BAe's combat aircraft production facility at Warton in Lancashire. By the end of next year, this number will have swelled to 180 and the year alter that to 230.

While most of these people are being diverted from the two companies' existing resources, the message is clear: despite decades of past rivalry, the continent's two leading combat aircraft producers are working together to preserve an independent European fighter capability. Given the prowess of Lockheed Martin and Boeing -- and the imminent onslaught of the US Joint Strike Fighter marketeers -- BAe and Dassault know that there is no alternative. The programmes in everyone's sights are replacements for France's Mirage 2000D/Ns and the UK, German and Italian Tornado fleet. In the UK, the latter operates under the Future Offensive Air System (FOAS) program me.

Technology demonstrators

European AeroSystems is preparing bids in anticipation of a request for proposals (RFP) from the UK and French MoDs that is expected to lead to the award of contracts for five technology demonstration programmes (TDPs) towards the end of this year. These are expected to cover:

* affordable cockpit systems;

* a seamless synthetic environment for supporting a combat aircraft from initial design to in-service support;

* product data management -- the sharing of information and best practice between the two companies:

* integrated logistics support;

* and an integrated modular avionics architecture.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3126/is_632_54/ai_n28742269/?tag=content;col1


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"New build aircraft, for instance the BAE HALO or BAE Replica demonstrator".

A composite mock-up...


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Let's see France's demonstrator then Marc


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

AVE flew FIRST in 2000 then 2000 (instable tailles) = 2 European FIRST.

As for you you're full of it, inventing most of what you write or digging possibly the most mediocre and uninformed link possible, boy.

I bet this FOAS wiki thing was writen by your pal RM Nod...


As for THIS conceiptual design, it came straight from European Aerosystems design board sourced by BAe long before FOAS was launched.

But obviously you possibly couldn't know since your interest in the subject is braging and pumping up your ego...

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Once again Sampaix tries to attribute all BAE programmes to the French, you're in dreamland Marc


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

European Aerosystems was an INTERNATIONAL company.

But you are AGAIN caught in FULL bigotry denial.

Obviously reality and history aren't "British" enough for your troll's liking.

NOW READ AGAIN FOR YOUR EDUCATION:

European AeroSystems

BAe and Dassault know that there is no alternative. The programmes in everyone's sights are replacements for France's Mirage 2000D/Ns and the UK, German and Italian Tornado fleet.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3126/is_632_54/ai_n28742269/?tag=content;col1


As for Dassault they didn't NEED Europe they were ready.



THIS was the picture disclosed by Jane's Edition of All World Aircrafts 1999 under the title European Aerosystems.

Weither it is BAe or Dassault makes NO difference to the issue, it was not an original FOAS programe design.
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DATE:07/09/98
SOURCE:Flight Daily News
Anglo-French joint venture to tackle fighter technology
Tim Ripley

British and French fighter manufacturers have formed a joint venture company to develop the technology for the next generation of European combat aircraft.

European Aerosystems brings together British Aerospace and Dassault Aviation in a formal arrangement, which builds on the November 1995 memorandum of understanding between the two companies.

Executives from both companies attended a signing ceremony in London on Saturday to conclude the long-trailed agreement.

The joint venture company will continue studies into technologies associated with airframe design and manufacturing; avionics systems integration; vehicle systems

integration; weapons integration; air vehicle development facilities; weapon system design and development; and manufacturing processes, methods and tools.

BAe and Dassault signed a technology exchange agreement in 1992 and since 1996 have worked on a joint UK/French Government study programme.



Focused approach

"The formalising of the joint venture is a logical follow-on from this work and will enable a more focused approach to be applied," says a BAe-Dassault statement.

The two companies will have equal ownership of the joint venture; its six-member board will comprise three from each company. Its headquarters will be in the UK.

There will be a number of full-time employees with the joint venture, which will be supported by employees from both companies working in teams in both the UK and France.

"Joint ventures of this kind are key to competing in global defence markets," says BAe-Dassault. "Increasingly the only way extensive research and development programmes will be able to be undertaken is by accessing multinational budgets and working in partnership toward joint solutions.

"This joint venture is an important step toward the gradual harmonisation of European research and development work to meet multi-national defence requirements."
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/1998/09/07/41783/anglo-french-joint-venture-to-tackle-fighter-technology.html

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DATE:01/04/98
SOURCE:Flight International
France urges BAe/Dassault unit
Julian Moxon/PARIS

The idea of an eventual merger between the combat aircraft divisions of British Aerospace and Dassault Aviation has been given a boost by French minister of defence Alain Richard.

Citing the consolidation in military aircraft that has taken place in the USA as "illuminating", Richard says in an interview in French financial newspaper Les Echos that the two European companies should develop a "common industrial and commercial strategy" to replace the current structure, in which European companies often compete against each other as well as with the USA.

BAe and Dassault already work together on long term combat aircraft technologies under a memorandum of understanding signed in 1996. The number of personnel involved in early project work for a next generation combat aircraft has increased in recent months to around 70, and senior management from the two sides meet regularly. A Dassault official confirms that the relations between the two are "very cordial", adding that BAe's combat aircraft work makes it "the only real candidate for future co-operation in this field".

Meanwhile, Richard has ruled out any privatisation of Aerospatiale as a precursor to the creation of a European aerospace grouping, preferring the idea of creating large, unified aerospace groupings by discipline. "The main thing is to bring together quickly and efficiently the maximum number of activities carried out by the Europeans," he says. This would have the advantage of allowing an escape from "generalities and confirmations of principle" so that what he calls "dynamic and balanced agreements" can be forged.

He reveals that the Government is working towards unifying the missile activities of Matra and Aerospatiale "in the framework of existing or planned European alliances, particularly with the Italian aerospace industry".

Matra and BAe have already pooled missile activities in the joint venture Matra BAe Dynamics, and the concern has taken a 30% stake in the Daimler-Benz Aerospace missile house LFK to widen its pan-European credentials.

Richard denies that there has been any pressure from the UK and Germany to privatise Aerospatiale. "It is true that there are different approaches because the capital structures of the three are different," he says, but he adds that there is "no reason a public shareholder with a visible management and clear objectives" should not be involved in the European grouping.

Meanwhile, French prime minister Lionel Jospin is said to be responding "positively" to Richard's demands for a revised defence budget plan in which spending over the next four years will be increased by a few per cent over the 1998 figure, but leaving the amount in each year to be decided according to programme requirements.

Richard wants to reverse the strong downward trend in the defence equipment budget that has left the French aerospace industry complaining loudly about the lack of domestic orders. Planned spending in 1998 has fallen to around Fr81 billion ($13.1 million), against Fr89.7 billion called for in the original 1997-2002 five year plan. The Government is now proposing a global figure of around Fr350 billion over the next four years, which would yield an average equipment budget of Fr87.5 billion a year.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/1998/04/01/34942/france-urges-baedassault-unit.html

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