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Modern Top of the Line MiG Design Bureau

November 7 2009 at 12:57 PM
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Eric  (Login Nighthawk00)
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Modern Top of the Line MiG Design Bureau



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The MIG Design Bureau and plant. is the country's major producer of jet fighter aircraft. It developed the family of technologically advanced MiG aircraft, including the Soviet Union's first  jet fighter. The MiG design bureau is part of the state-owned multifirm aerospace complex VPK MAPO (Military-Industrial Complex-Moscow Aircraft Production).


The MiG company was founded as an independent design department in December 1939 by Artem Mikoyan, a young aviation designer who had grown up in a remote Asian village. Mikoyan had worked as a mechanic in the 1920s before graduating from a military academy in 1937. He worked briefly in the late 1930s for Nikolai Polikarpov, a famous Soviet aviation designer. When Mikoyan began his independent work in 1939, he joined forces with Mikhail Gurevich, an accomplished aeronautical engineer who had recently visited the United States to negotiate a license to build a Soviet version of the Douglas DC-3. Mikoyan and Gurevich's first design was the I-200 high altitude interceptor that eventually bore the name MiG-1, standing for the first letters of each of their names and the "i" in the middle for the Russian word for "and."   



The aircraft produced here are the finest and most advanced in the world. They are the envy of everyone, top of the line. During Soviet days this plant was extremely busy and business is picking up again.


 


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Yaguarete_AR
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November 7 2009, 1:13 PM 

If MiG would developed a single engine replacement for the MiG21 they would had cornered the fighter's world market as they did with the Fishbed. Poor countries cannot buy or maintain properly a twin-engine aircrat. A debt of the Soviet Union' designers was a real counterpart to the F-16s... France has never commercialized the Mirage 2000 properly and the world had to wait to the J-10 to see a real Non-Western "F-16".

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November 7 2009, 1:40 PM 

Mig was working on the Project 33, which would have been more or less the replacement for the Mig-21 on the export market.......it was very loosely derived from the Fulcrum, and was powered by a single RD-93 engine.
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Any ways, Mig now kinda symbolizes to me the underdog of the Russian aerospace sector(with all of their financial problems and continuing scarcity of export orders), which is somewhat sad given their legendary reputation during the Cold War years. But hey, you got to give a hand to Sukhoi. When the going got tough, the strongest survived.

 
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November 7 2009, 1:48 PM 

Anyways, I kinda disagree with you that their are no F-16 analogues. The Mig-29 was a huge hit on the export market until the fall of the Soviet Union. Had development of the Mig-33 continued on pace with state support, who knows what may have happened. The Mirage 2000 also fills the same niche of the F-16, and has done an admirable job of keeping the Dassault name alive. The original F/A-18A/B/C/D is also another direct competitor (and the E/F despite its slightly larger size).

Fighter classes can't really be categorized simply anymore just because one fighter has a single engine and another double. The F-16E/F is in many ways still competitive with the Eurofighter and Rafale. Granted, some fighters obviously are kinda in the upper tier given their size and superior range/payload characteristics (IE the F-15E, F-22, and Su-27/30/35).......

 
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November 7 2009, 1:58 PM 

Well MIG is developing one engine version of Mig-1.44 so witch should fly around 2015-e .. so they gona score again no doubt.

 
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November 7 2009, 3:06 PM 

MiG is dead,if they keep going this way they`ll be bunkrupt in short time.

On the other hand Sukhoi seems very healthy.

 
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November 7 2009, 3:13 PM 

If MiG would developed a single engine replacement for the MiG21 they would had cornered the fighter's world market as they did with the Fishbed. Poor countries cannot buy or maintain properly a twin-engine aircrat. A debt of the Soviet Union' designers was a real counterpart to the F-16s... France has never commercialized the Mirage 2000 properly and the world had to wait to the J-10 to see a real Non-Western "F-16".
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I fully agree (but France is part of the West, in fact it's one of the pillars of Western society but I understand what you meant wink.gif)

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November 7 2009, 3:18 PM 

Russian engines suck and a single engine fighter might turn to a dissaster.

 
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November 7 2009, 5:05 PM 

The MIG-33 lives on in the FC-1, which is at least influenced by the MIG-33 if not outright directly purchased by design. Its still based on the same RD-93 engine and although China updated the design quite a bit, the roots are very obvious. However its 20 years late compared to MIG-33's original schedule, FC-1 can't be sold as cutting edge nowadays but MIG-33 could 20 years ago.

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November 7 2009, 5:29 PM 

"Russian engines suck and a single engine fighter might turn to a dissaster."

And yet the statistics on the MiG-21 speak for themselves, 11,000 produced, dozens of different operators some still in use 30 or 40 years on.



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November 7 2009, 5:56 PM 

MiG-21 is an exception,it was quite reliable.But still with current engines i don`t think the idea
of a single engine Russian fighter is very good.

Even the freaky YAK-130 a trainer and light striker uses 2 engines...

Russian engineers know more for sure...

 
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November 8 2009, 12:41 AM 

The MIG-33 lives on in the FC-1, which is at least influenced by the MIG-33 if not outright directly purchased by design. Its still based on the same RD-93 engine and although China updated the design quite a bit, the roots are very obvious. However its 20 years late compared to MIG-33's original schedule, FC-1 can't be sold as cutting edge nowadays but MIG-33 could 20 years ago.

That's what I was saying, the single-engine "Russian" fighters are foreigner: Chinese J-10, Chinese-Pakistani FC-1 and perhaps some other product coming from Iran. I would trust more in a machine built in Russian and yes, I would say that MiG-33 would have been a replacement for the omnipresent Fishbed...


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November 8 2009, 9:17 AM 

On one of the pictures is back of the MiG-31 fuselage, are they again in production or picture is old one?

Hand made production, just like in Rolls Royce car factory...

 
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