Something new for a change , Top 5 Worst as in 'evil, cruel, monsterous' etc.

My top 5 off the top of my head

1. Mao Tse Tung - killed 60 million Chinese, makes stalin look like a saint!
2. Joseph Stalin- Brutal, Killed 20 million Russians/Jews/Poles, assassinated a bunch of his own officials
3. Adolf Hitler- No explanation needed, its common sense almost.
4. Pol Pot: Killed 2 million Cambodians in a country of only 7 million, brutal, treacherous ways of killing and torturing. Killing fields, skull museum.
5. Kim Jong Il/Saddam Hussein: Tied

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Seeing that all the ones in your list lived in the 20th century, don't you think you made a mistake?
Also, let's not forget that a dictator from a very small country will most likely not be listed simply because nobody remembers him.



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1) President Bush
2) Tony Blair
3) Tayip Erdogan
4) Stalin
5) Osama Bin Laden



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Who? Castro? Mussolini? Kadafi?

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If your looking at the 20th century, I think Hitler takes the top nod easily. He may not have the highest kill count, but just the systematic and organized way in which he committed genocide, goes without comparison in at least modern human history. He was the master as well at perverting nationalism, and just his aggression when it came to foreign policy.......how can you compare really?

Stalin takes second, completely ruthless and power hungry, but pound for pound, I don't think he was as demented or as purely "evil" as Hitler.

Mao is a flip flop and I don't think he deserved to be number one. He was also very power hungry, and if that meant millions dying because of backwards policies to keep him in power, so be it. But on the other hand, he was a nationalistic hero in a lot of ways, and he genuinely loved his nation and his people as a whole. Despite having a huge kill count, a lot of it was due to backwards policies, and even with the cultural revolution and the Red Guard, I don't think it compares to Hitler and Stalin......just my opinion. Still one of the worst though.....

I would put Hitler on the list of most successful dictators ever. In just a few years he turned a ruined Germany into a superpower that took on the whole world. His leadership skills cannot be ignored.



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I would say that the results of the great leap forward and the famine after it also with the cultural revolutions are two different things, the first being stupid policies that led to famine and economical stagnation, the cultural revolution being a social and cultural civil war on top of a internal power struggle.. is this bad policy or direct murder ?? there were purges mostly during the cultural revolution, but most of the killings of the cultural revolution was by the red guards who were just kids caught under mao's personality cult which he used to regain top power, but since being left unchecked took mao's red book to the extreme while mao didn't stop them since they were his power base.

Compared the stalin, mao didn't have the population purges of mass forced migration or such a direct involvement effect of the population.. to be sure both did a bad job in running their respective countries but looking in full view is there really a way to say who is worse, by population pecentage or total numbers ?? I would say that hitler was worse due to the fact that the death of other people was his main goal, stalin and mao was about total control within their territory, but with hitler it was total control of the world

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Is there any proof that 60 million died or is it just propaganda by Mao haters.

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C'mon now, Hitler takes the top, I don't see how you could disagree really........you can't just go by totals killed, both the USSR and China had millions of poor rural peasants, of course thier gonna get ****ed when you introduce some lame economic policies.

But ol' Adolf was figuring out the best way to knock off newborns with birth defects in order to further the master race.......

Well that 60 million figure is complete BS. It is tallied over Mao's entire rule from 1949 until 76, many of which are natural deaths. Even a conservative estimate of 1%/year natural death rate, that works out to 200 million chinese deaths from just illness, crime, other natural causes during that time, very easy to fudge the numbers lol.

I would saying probably 100k from political prosecution died under Mao and 5 million max from famine under great leap forward. And economic mismanagement is hardly genocide. Saying Mao ranks above Hilter is saying that drinking rice wine is more dangerous than snorting cocaine because more chinese die from rice wine poisoning each year than Icelanders from cocaine overdose.


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Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Mussolini, Nero, Genghis Khan, most of the French monarchs, Russian Czars, and of course... Bush lol.




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Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Mussolini, Nero, Genghis Khan, most of the French monarchs, Russian Czars, and of course... Bush lol.

You gotta give at least a shout out to Kim Jong Il, no favoritism lol.


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Oh yes, the Kim dynasty is definitely up there with best err... worst of them.






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Stalin wasnt evil, but he certainly was cruel. In any case, he was someone who solidified USSR as a superpower and made it an industrial powerhouse.

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I really think that too many people jump on the "Hitler was the worst ever" wagon too quickly. Very vew people ever give thought to all of the other complete @ssholes that have ruled nations before the invention of the History Channel. What about Caligula? Atilla? Vlad? Shaka Zulu? I'm not saying that everyone always jumping on Hitler is necessarialy wrong, but definitely a little narrow.


What about Bob Mugabe? He's a big steaming pile of crap. Definitely not top-5 material, but I think he's up there.

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As already said, a lot of dictators are pretty much concerned about their own power, Hitler no kidding, wanted to take over more or less the world and create the quote unquote "Master Race", even if he had to exterminate millions while doing it. The thing that makes him so much more then the other dictators is that he had the assets and capability to almost pull it off...

I think for sure its the popular thing to do (jump on the Hitler band-wagon), but its kinda hard to compare Mugabe to Hitler, ya know?........

If not a genius, Hitler was at least ruthlessly efficient in many ways. You also can't really deny his depraved and malevolent psyche. So take that, along with his hatred towards homosexuals, blacks, Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, the deaf, dumb and blind, etc., etc., etc., add a pinch of his manipulation skills which were able to control one of the most powerful and industrialized nations during the 20th century, and yup, he takes the nod.

If I'm thinking of worst dictator, I would go with how badly they treated the people they were supposedly leading. This would disqualify conquerers like Hitler or Temujin, though they're definately some of the worst people overall.

Ranavalona of Madascar - "The Female Caligula", it was claimed that close to HALF of the population were worked to death or executed during her rule (Though part of this could be Euro Propaganda, because she was one of the few African leaders who was skilled at keeping euros out, and they hated her for it).

Pol Pot - Again, killed off a large fraction of his population, special mention because it was for the most retarded reasons (wearing glasses, wtf?).

Caracalla - IMO the worst Roman Emperor (and that's saying something). One of his biggest outrages was ordering his troops to ransack Alexandria and massacre the population because ONE person from that city had written a satarical poem about him.

Stalin - He's on here for scale and ruthlessness.

Philip IV of France -He's here as a stand in for all the ******* midieval kings.



Also, props to Kim Il Sung/Jong Il for creating the most fukced up cult of personality ever, it even reaches the Ancient Kings who called themselves god.

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1) President Bush
2) Tony Blair
3) Tayip Erdogan
4) Stalin
5) Osama Bin Laden

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Gordon Brown MP counts more as a dictator than Tony Blair, a lot of people didn't so much vote for Labour as they did for Blair! Brown was not leader when his party was elected!


"He lives in a world where concept is reality..."

what about idi amin? saddam husein? the phuckistani dictators responsible for 3 million deaths in erstwhile east phuckistan (now bang-la-desh)? and what about the ayatollahs running iran?




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Dictator is someone who takes control of a country by the use of a the army.So Hitler ,Bush ,Blair ,Erdogan can't be in that list because they were elected by the people.In Democracy you don't have dictators just stupid voters.

lol ppp56 calm down i was joking

1) Stalin
2) Osama
3) Hitler
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everything was better underneath adolf

Thread starter too ignorant to be taken serious with his numbers

"Mao Tse Tung - killed 60 million Chinese, makes stalin look like a saint! "

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sorry exactly how did Mao kill 60 million Chinese? enlighten me?.. gas chambers? public beheading? personally think this is part of Western propaganda... not really sure really...


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Westerners should not be ones to judge. Just because their governments were "democracies" or "monarchies" that gave industrial advancement throughout the ages, it came at the cost of systematically erasing indigenous populations and ethnically cleansing other areas of the natives.

Some Chinese are too ignorant and blind by the commie propaganda to believe anything bad Mao did to unite the country. After all, he is the "savior" of China.

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It would be more insteresting to name the top 10 to top 25 dictators. They are unjustifiably neglected despite having also committed huge crimes.

Top 15: Pol Pot (Kampuchea)
Top 16: Saddam Hussein
Top 17: Ceaucescu
Top 18: Ayatollah Khomeini
Top 19: The guy who governed Somalia in the 70s
Top 20: The guy who governed Ethiopia in the 70s
Top 21: Idi Amin Dada
Top 22: Generalisimo Francisco Franco (Spain)
Top 23: Fidel Castro
Top 24: Diem (South Vietnam)
Top 25: All South American Military Juntas altogether

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Fvck the natives. Everyone did it, even the USA. If they can't stand the heat (bullets) then get out of the kitchen (land). There are numerous examples of land grabs by more advanced people from less advanced people: Spain > Aztec, UK > Aboriginal, USA > Souix. The time for bringing it up was 200 years ago, not today. Quit crying about it. Mowing down the natives used to be a pastime for more advanced westerners. But it doesn't get you into the evil dictators club. :P

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1_stalin
2-Pol pot
3-George Bush
4-Sadam

Khomeini was not in charge of a lot of things, there were other hands behind the regime and still
this regime is by far behind any of dose modern day Dictatorship we know!

Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe: what about this president day dictator, he should be removed my means only known by assassins

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