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Australia vs Indonesia

January 11 2010 at 4:23 AM
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Who would win in an all out war?

lets hear it.

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January 11 2010, 4:27 AM 

Malaysia, New Zealand, Brasil, Russia and Singapore.


War is not good for either country. Nice flame thread though

 
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January 11 2010, 4:28 AM 

Australia would bomb them to the stone age!

 
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January 11 2010, 4:29 AM 

no need to bomb them back to the stone age. Just capture Bali. lol

 
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January 11 2010, 4:32 AM 

What really is an "all out war" between Australia and Indonesia? Since they are separated by water it is going to be each sides subs taking shots at each other. Maybe some aircraft battles. And even if one side got troops landed neither have the logistics to pull anything of size off.


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January 11 2010, 4:32 AM 

Please post facts and weapons stats rather than emotional dribble to substantiate your claims

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January 11 2010, 4:33 AM 

yes we should all do that in an ill intended flame thread. lol

 
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January 11 2010, 4:34 AM 

LOL b2 can we use u and your flight sim x 747

 
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January 11 2010, 4:34 AM 

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January 11 2010, 4:36 AM 

Back to the topic, how will Australia win against the Indonesians? Weapon stats and facts only

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January 11 2010, 4:37 AM 

by summoning the mighty dragons of Zion and the lion of Zelda equiped with the latest in unicorn technology.

 
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January 11 2010, 4:38 AM 

any other way would simply be impossible.

 
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January 11 2010, 4:40 AM 

Ok jokes apart, both are evenly matched in Technology and im being serious. the only deciding factor would be who's side America is on and that would be the winner. Otherwise its a stalemate

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January 11 2010, 4:41 AM 

America with its might Dragon legion would definitely tilt the balance of power towards middle earth.

 
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January 11 2010, 4:42 AM 

Lol big kangaroo!!!!!!! That eats panda bears!!!!!


B2 this is a stupid thread. We know Indonesia has what 4 Su's and 10 F-16's. The Su's don't even have any weapons.

Maybe when Indonesia gets some more palm oil they can buy weapons with there fighter jets ahhahaha.

 
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January 11 2010, 4:44 AM 

"big kangaroo!!!!!!! That eats panda bears!!!!!

sadly these species are currently endangered and maybe extinct in a few years if we keep sending them to war.

 
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January 11 2010, 4:46 AM 

Dude agreed Australia is a first world country but we are talking about warfare, Australia does not have any enemies and is pretty secluded from the rest of the world. Now the current state of affairs its no better than a country like Indonesia in terms of military capabilities

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January 11 2010, 4:49 AM 

who needs a armed forces when you have Panda Bear eating kangaroos on your side ?

 
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January 11 2010, 4:50 AM 

America with its might Dragon legion would definitely tilt the balance of power towards middle earth.

Much like Britain with the Falklands, agree.  Besides, in ten years, with F-35s and SHs and AWACS and new frigates and new subs and new missiles, etc..............Australia would wipe them up compared with what Indonesia has on it's modernization list. 

 

But, in honesty, why would Australia and Indonesia ever fight one another?  Really?  Indonesia doesn't want it.  Australia doesn't want it. 


 
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January 11 2010, 4:52 AM 

"But, in honesty, why would Australia and Indonesia ever fight one another? Really? Indonesia doesn't want it. Australia doesn't want it."

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January 11 2010, 4:55 AM 

war between the two countries is as probable as Canada invading India.

 
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January 11 2010, 4:59 AM 

Right now as of 11th of jan 2010.

Our subs would take out there navy.

Our F-111's could bomb Jakarta.

We could never invade because our army is not that big and we don't want to anyways. There is nothing there we want. We could take there oil from the sea i guess? But we got plenty.

 
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January 11 2010, 5:10 AM 

Indonesia doesn't have the logistical capacity to make any serious incursions into Australia. Likewise we can't invade them in a big way either. Best they can do is attack the Northern ports from where we export our minerals.

I suppose we could cause some crap in Papua and support uprisings in some of their more restive provinces but we would then have to deal with it later. Ie.Another East Timor situation isn't desirable for us. Attempting to destroy their some of their infrastructure with air raids maybe an option but I don't know how useful it would be. Maybe to "encourage" surrendering as to whatever issue the war was being fought over. (ocean territory?)

I don't see their airforce doing much against ours. They don't have that much modern stuff. I say 70 Hornets and 20 F-111/Superhornets (depending on when this is) beats half a dozen Flankers and a dozen F-16's. They have a few A-4's and F-5's as well.

 
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January 11 2010, 5:18 AM 

The rusty 40 year-old pigs that are the Aardvarks aren't scaring anybody. Just because they can shoot out flame farts to wow some stupid crowd at an air show, every Ozzie thinks they're a superpower. [linked image] [linked image] [linked image]

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January 11 2010, 5:21 AM 

Hmmmmmm do 40 year old b-52s still scare people???? Do remember the F-111's have been upgraded over there life.

 
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January 11 2010, 5:25 AM 

They're gonna be all gone by year's end anyways.



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January 11 2010, 5:31 AM 

Ether way super hornets or f-111's would strike fear into the Indonesian generals in Jakarta as they would be the targets of an attack lol.

We scared them in 1999 when they were on stand by ready to attack targets in Indonesia.

Australia 'was set to bomb Jakarta in Timor conflict'

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AUSTRALIAN F-111 jets were loaded with bombs ready to attack the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, during the landing of United Nations troops in East Timor, a New Zealand defence expert said last night.
Warships were also placed on full battle alert, said David Dickens, director of the Centre for Strategic Studies at Victoria University, Wellington. He said the Australian-led Interfet force sent to East Timor in September 1999 faced "aggressive probing" from Indonesian aircraft and submarines and was ready to respond at any level.

The "tactics raised questions about the intentions of the Indonesian military", he said. "Various Interfet ships went to action stations during these incidents". Senior Australian officers had told him that F-111 fighters were "bombed up" to knock out military communications installations on the outskirts of Jakarta under "worst-case planning". Australia placed its defence forces on the highest level of readiness for the first 10 days of the operation, he said.
The Interfet force was sanctioned by the UN after Jakarta-backed militiamen went on the rampage in response to a vote by the East Timorese for independence from Indonesia. It consisted primarily of Australian and New Zealand forces. Australian Interfet officers viewed the Indonesian fighters and submarines as a real threat on a number of fronts, Dr Dickens said.
"The bombing up of the F-111s was part of the overall raising of the whole of the Australian defence force in northern Australia to the highest levels of readiness, so that if there was any attack they would respond. I was told by the people that were actually going to do it. It would have been proportional. A big attack would get a big response."
Dr Dickens quoted Rear Adml Peter McHaffie, the Royal New Zealand Navy chief of staff, as confirming that the frigate Canterbury "detected an unidentified submarine contact" as troops sailed to the East Timorese town of Suai. At one stage, an Indonesian T209 submarine disappeared, sparking an intense search by Interfet aircraft and warships. Dr Dickens said: "There was a definite concern about naval attack from the submarines and all the other things."
"But the real thing that worried them was that the submarines could have been used to slip in at night near the fleet and offload special forces who might have gone out and sunk one of the ships while it was in Dili harbour or just outside." The 10-day military stand-off between Sept 20 and 30 ended when senior Australian officers confronted their Indonesian counterparts with intelligence showing them that their submarines had been detected.
Dr Dickens, a respected defence commentator in the region, plans to publish an article based on his interviews with Australian and New Zealand officers in the specialist journal Contemporary Southeast Asia. A spokesman for Peter Reith, Australia's Defence Minister, said: "We are not going to comment specifically on operational matters and on states of readiness at the time.
"The Interfet operation was conducted with the full agreement and co-operation of the Indonesian government and the Indonesian defence forces." Relations between Indonesia on the one side and Australia and New Zealand on the other were put under severe strain during the East Timor landings, but have since improved.
President Abdurrahman Wahid is due to become the first Indonesian leader to make a state visit to Australia in 26 years on Monday. He will then travel on to New Zealand for an official banquet in Wellington.

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January 11 2010, 5:34 AM 

IIRC F111's have the better range than the Hornets, provided the few modern jets that indonesia has have been taken care of than they shouldn't have too much to worry about in that respect. As of this year they're being replaced by super hornets anyway.

 
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January 11 2010, 7:51 AM 

Australia would call on the ANZUS treaty and Indonesia basically gets bombed by American Nimitz aircraft carriers.

That is what would actually happen lol

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

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January 11 2010, 9:08 AM 

Aussie's Taking On Indonesians?...

In Term Of Technology, i believe that the Australian will get higher score.
Man Power?...Balanced Maybe..trained?...Indonesian might score more on this.
Adding more traits..the Indonesian are known as fierce warrior..Eager to look for death, aussie might get slaughtered..upon any invasion.



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January 11 2010, 10:00 AM 

^^^
the days when aussies landed on Indonesia soil it will be look like saving private ryan opening scenes, except that in this case no tom hank dude walked far way more than 100 m from Indonesia offshore.. happy.gif

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January 11 2010, 10:26 AM 

the days when aussies landed on Indonesia soil it will be look like saving private ryan opening scenes, except that in this case no tom hank dude walked far way more than 100 m from Indonesia offshore..

You mean like when Aussie troops landed on Timor in 1999, and the Indonesian soldiers fled? Lots of Indonesian soldiers died during INTERFET, no Aussies did though. Strange.

 
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January 11 2010, 11:03 AM 

Australia could probably fund an insurgency in Indonesia rather easily , there are many areas that wish the cede (such as Aceh). At best, Australia could take one large island (Papua, since there is a chance of a staging area in PNG) or hope to do so with current forces but to take over anything more would be far too hard simply because Indonesia is thousands of islands with a far greater population.

That is assuming the ANZUS treaty falls through.

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It's two trolls. Up until end of last year almost there was 3 Australians on this forum (the ones who acknowledge they are happy.gif)

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

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January 11 2010, 11:29 AM 



Another crappy stuff from a racist country.

 
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January 11 2010, 11:33 AM 

KingThaksin go burn down another church ya dickhead!

 
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January 11 2010, 11:52 AM 


Interesting. Another garbage from a racist/KKK member. Seems like there are quite a number of KKK members in this thread.


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January 11 2010, 11:52 AM 

indonesia has su30mk2's i recon know one will win but have a huge amount of casualties

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January 11 2010, 12:48 PM 

yasin22 they have 3 su-30mk

no awac's
no refueling tankser
no weapons for su-30mk's
10 old F-16A's that can't fly at night

And yes you are an idiot......

F#$k these people on this forum and there lack of knowledge.

 
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January 11 2010, 1:08 PM 

^^^
there is cheap way to given damaged to any neighbours though..

every year we improved our rocket capability without help from the other nations, who know what happened if some of them lend their hand..happy.gif

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January 11 2010, 1:23 PM 

nice tourist islands but we need to kick of those indonesian monkeys first

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January 11 2010, 1:37 PM 

"there is cheap way to given damaged to any neighbours though..

every year we improved our rocket capability without help from the other nations, who know what happened if some of them lend their hand..happy.gif"

have fun hitting sod all with that at the moment. You could hit the very Northern tip of queensland from the very South of West Papua. That's it, pretty useless unless you just want to kill aboriginal civilians.

If you say it's going to improve in the future then Australia, as part of the US anti-missile shield also gets that to shoot stuff down.

 
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January 11 2010, 2:10 PM 

389km range basically means you hit basically none of Australia's coastal cities or ports from any Island in your Republic.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."

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January 11 2010, 3:17 PM 

^^^
our rockets researchment just barely start, not to mention with limited budget (only US$ 2.5 mill) and without any help from the other nation who already stand-out in this area,
but we already made rocket with range around 300KM, that's good I could says,
who know if Iran or China give us help maybe we can improve our rocket capability in more faster rate..


o.T. afterall I know thread starter made this thread so anyone starting bashing our country,this was for his revenge because I blow up the real behaviour of his people on my thread(were his compatriot so horny and grouping a tranny in public area )

good try apu..happy.gif

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January 11 2010, 11:13 PM 

o.T. afterall I know thread starter made this thread so anyone starting bashing our country,this was for his revenge because I blow up the real behaviour of his people on my thread(were his compatriot so horny and grouping a tranny in public area )

So according to your logic all Muslims are Osama loving fanatic terrorists, is that right?
Btw just curious, why do you frequent websites containing homosexuality and trannies also child porn sites?


good try apu.
Who the fvck are you calling apu you undernourished little midget dipsh1t?


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January 11 2010, 11:15 PM 

Now back to the topic since the Indonesian tried to derail the thread because its scared of people bashing his/its country. Grow some balls will ya?

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January 11 2010, 11:22 PM 

^^^
why you always talking about balls, apu ?

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January 11 2010, 11:25 PM 

Because you like to suck on them you malay monkey lol

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January 11 2010, 11:37 PM 

^^^
I dunno a male can suck a ball, is that how the way you done ?

anyway congratulation ,you derailing your own thread with all the talk about how you spend your time with ball, apu..

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January 11 2010, 11:39 PM 

Sorry dont swing that way Malay monkey, thats what you do since you frequent websites containing child porn and Homosexuals. LOl

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January 11 2010, 11:50 PM 

^^^
didnt know you take this forum as serious bussines apu,.. and become reflection of your real lives

for me its all just fun ..just for fun,apu..



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January 11 2010, 11:52 PM 

Whatever you say Malay midget monkey lol.

BTW hows your search for Trannies and child porn going?

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January 12 2010, 12:01 AM 

acha..acha..trannies and childporn is what your peoples in to, apu..

'and if you so much interested to joint in it,why not just ask them, apu??
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January 12 2010, 12:04 AM 

Stop trying to derail the topic again, is that trannie really you indo monkey?
Now if you dont have the stomach to take criticism about your country then stay the fvck out and let others discuss it and go do what you do best, search the internet for gay porn sites and child porn

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Re: Australia vs Indonesia

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January 12 2010, 12:05 AM 

Back to the topic, who would win?


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Re: Australia vs Indonesia

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January 12 2010, 1:55 AM 

At the risk of sounding boring, a stalemate with no outside interference. We would achieve air superiority pretty quickly and could probably control the sea between the 2 countries, but logistically we don't have enough troops to hold any important strategic targets for any length of time. And the insurgency would be insane. 10 times as large as Iraq or Afghanistan with their huge population. About the best the Indons could do is invade Broome. Good luck on the 3000km treck across the desert to Perth. Just ask the Japs how fun that is.

 
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January 12 2010, 3:36 AM 

Iakhovas

They couldn't invade any part of Australia including broom. They don't have the logistics and i'm sure we would sink any ship that comes near the coast.

Conclusion. Australia wins.


The only country I know that has the capability to invade countries is the USA!

 
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