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Iran plays down U.S. naval moves

January 21 2012 at 9:12 PM
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Who didnt see this coming. Bark,bark,bark, meow.

Iran plays down U.S. naval moves

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps said on Saturday it considered the likely return of U.S. warships to the Gulf part of routine activity, backing away from previous warnings to Washington not to re-enter the area.

The statement may be seen as an effort to reduce tensions after Washington said it would respond if Iran made good on a threat to block the Strait of Hormuz - the vital shipping lane for oil exports from the Gulf.

"U.S. warships and military forces have been in the Persian Gulf and the Middle East region for many years and their decision in relation to the dispatch of a new warship is not a new issue and it should be interpreted as part of their permanent presence," Revolutionary Guard Deputy Commander Hossein Salami told the official IRNA news agency.

The apparently conciliatory comments may be a response to the European Union and Washington's rejection of Iran's declaration it was close to resuming negotiations with world powers and with the Pentagon saying it did not expect any challenge to its warships.

Crude prices have spiked several times this year on fears diplomatic tensions could escalate to military clashes as well as uncertainty about the effect of sanctions on the oil market.

Along with the EU, which is set to agree an embargo on Iranian oil next week, Washington hopes the sanctions will force Iran to suspend the nuclear activities it believes are aimed at making an atom bomb, a charge Tehran denies.

There has been no U.S. aircraft carrier in the Gulf since the USS John C. Stennis left at the end of December at a time when the Revolutionary Guard was conducting naval maneuvers.

On January 3, after U.S. President Barack Obama signed new sanctions aimed at stopping Iran's oil exports, Tehran told the Stennis not to return - an order interpreted by some observers in Iran and Washington as a blanket threat to any U.S. carriers.

"I recommend and emphasize to the American carrier not to return to the Persian Gulf," Iran's army chief, Major General Ataollah Salehi, said at the time. "We are not in the habit of warning more than once."

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Washington says it will return to the Gulf and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said any move to block Hormuz - through which around a third of the world's sea-borne traded oil passes - would be seen as a "red line," requiring a response.

Citing operational security, the Pentagon will not say when the next carrier will return to the Gulf but officials say it is only a matter of time and they do not expect any problems.

In the coming days or weeks, the Revolutionary Guard will begin new naval exercises in the Strait of Hormuz and the Gulf. Salami told IRNA these would go ahead as planned in the Iranian month of Bahman which runs from January 21 to February 19.

Iran has said it is ready to return to talks with world powers that stalled one year ago, but the West, concerned about Tehran's move of the most sensitive atomic work to a bomb-proof bunker, says it must first see a willingness from Tehran to address the nuclear issue.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Friday "time is running out" for a diplomatic solution and urged Russia and China to drop their opposition to sanctions on Iranian oil.

Iran is OPEC's second biggest exporter and blocking its crude exports - through the EU embargo or U.S. moves to punish banks that trade with Iran - could have a devastating impact on its economy but there are no signs so far such pressure would force it to stop what it calls its peaceful nuclear rights.

(Writing by Robin Pomeroy; Editing by Sophie Hares)

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-says-u-presence-gulf-not-issue-092321057.html


    
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January 21 2012, 9:26 PM 

Meow...more double-talk from Iran.

Iran Says it Has Never Tried to Close Strait of Hormuz

Iran's Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi on Thursday denied Tehran had ever tried to close the Strait of Hormuz, the vital shipping route at the center of increasing international tension.

"Iran has never in its history tried to prevent, to put any obstacles in the way of this important maritime route," he said in an interview with NTV television during a visit to Turkey.

Iran threatened in December to close the narrow and strategic waterway -- a chokepoint for one fifth of the world's traded oil -- in the event of a military strike or the severe tightening of international sanctions.

That set up a tense standoff with the United States which sent a second aircraft carrier to the region as Tehran announced new naval maneuvers in the Strait within the next few weeks.

"We want peace and stability in the region ... But the Americans ... want to run certain countries from our zone," Salehi added.

"I appeal to all the countries of the region, please don't let yourself be drawn into a dangerous position."

Washington should be willing to hold talks with Tehran with no preconditions, he said.

Iran's military in 1987 and 1988 laid mines in the waters of the Strait of Hormuz and the Gulf to make the channel hazardous for oil tankers from Iraq, with which it was at war.

In April 1988, a U.S. warship struck one of the mines and nearly sank. The U.S. military subsequently launched Operation Preying Mantis, destroying two Iranian oil platforms and several vessels.

Mines left over from that conflict, and from the 1990-1991 Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, were being picked up in the coastal waters in the northern Gulf up to a decade

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/27091-iran-says-it-has-never-tried-to-close-strait-of-hormuz

 
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January 21 2012, 9:39 PM 

The US is wasting so much money operating those carriers there.. they know they won't do anything... and they know they aren't preventing Iran from doing anything they already started...


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January 22 2012, 3:41 AM 

Iran will never do anything to start a war. But it will get the nukes although may not test it.

And US is experienced enough in engineering a war and triggering of war. So who knows, may be there will be a war.

 
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January 22 2012, 4:36 AM 

"Iran will never do anything to start a war. But it will get the nukes although may not test it.

And US is experienced enough in engineering a war and triggering of war. So who knows, may be there will be a war."

I agree 100% with what you said, they will not test it, but the big big question is why are we pushing them this much?

This is beyond logic! Push them against the wall so they have to? Why becuase Moses is going to part Netanyahu's hair down the middle?

Sure lets let the Genie out of the bottle! Let us keep doing it! Let us use Plutonium in our reactors, let us use it in Fukushima! After all we don't know what to do! Once we make it we dont know what to do with it, so we stick it in 3 Mile Island and Fukushima, and when it blows up let us blame Uranium!

Lets not have clean energy, lets push each other to the brink this way we can all hold each other's hands and blame Uranium! Sing along now...la la la..fe la la

Let us not use Uranium to save the air we breath, but the straits, well who needs Plutonium? Welcome welcome to the bullsheet spewed! So no more pebble reactors blame it on Uranium. If it was Plutonium all along why are we blaming Uranium?



    
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January 22 2012, 10:53 AM 




The regime in Iran wants to accuire Nuclear weapons for the same reason all other nuclear powers became nuclear powers. For Deterrence against aggression from foreign powers. And as some of you mentioned, you are very correct It's unlikely they will test-blow devices underground like North korea and all other nuclear powers. They will just like Israel neither deny or confirm, but most likely in Irans case just flat out deny, since the last thing they wan't is to start an nuclear arms race in the region, as that will challenge their regional power and making their own decision to go nuclear kind of pointless.

These weapons no matter of what quality or how many in quantity have to purposes, to discourage foreign aggression, to secure the regimes position.

All this fearmongering that Iran would use such weapons to pre-emptively remove israel from the map is laughable and right out ridiculous, not to mention bull$hit articles enpowered by similarly oriented hollywood garbage-productions that emphasize on the fact that the weapons will end up in the hands of hamas, hizbollah, chechnian rebells, talibans or other independent terrorist groups is so ridiculous and childish it's not even funny. Why, To what end, going through all this trouble, clandestinely smuggle centrifuge parts, work year after year to develop functioning cascades, billions of billions of dollars invested, year after year with increasing sanctions etc, just to give the weapons away to some groups which could end up using it at something else than initially intended or sell it away to another even more unpredictable party.

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January 22 2012, 11:55 AM 

What does the West and the world risk with upping the ante against Iran? Pretty much nothing. A more constraining embargo, killing some Iranian scientists etc is pretty much risk free for the West. Sure Iranian people will suffer more but that should be the last of the things to consider for Western politicians who are elected to protect Western societies.

Now a nuclear Iran would be very problematic for the world. It not only means another nuclear power, but one that is in the hands of mad men. One that would trigger a nuclear arms race in the middle east and elsewhere in the world. One that would seriously hamper any discussions with Iran as is the case with NK right now.




So why in the world would the West not continue on its path of preventing Iran from acquiring this WMD? Well when I say continue on its path, I of course don't count the 8 years that were lost because Europeans didn't want to follow Bush ... because of the person.

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January 22 2012, 12:53 PM 

Irans mullahs are part of a bygone era. It is time for the ME to evolve and get with the worlds economic fold. This whole Islamic doomsday ideology that the leaders of Iran follow in there quest for grandeur and domination of Al Quds in Israel is something the rest of the civilized world rejects.

I don't think the US wants to strike its once proud Iranian friend more than it wants Iran to be an economic partner again. But this can not be achieved with the irrational mullahs in charge.

If the world can wait till Iran has its latest round of staged elections there is a good chance of a renewed green revolution to have Irans people create a real democracy and move to real diplomacy without all the mullah Taqiyya and mind-games.

With the amount of hardware the Arab countries buy it is a wonder they could not feel strong enough to suppress Iran if it tried to close international trade routes.

 
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January 22 2012, 1:03 PM 

So why in the world would the West not continue on its path of preventing Iran from acquiring this WMD?
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Mostly because there is no money and economy slumping and Iraq war was disaster and in Afghanstan West is beginning to delude itself that taliban is good and islamic nationalism isn't anti-west. Now there is barely any stamina left for adventure. But west, like others, isn't always rational so you never know.

Nuke in Iran though is a clear danger to heart of europe and once Iran gets it there is no going back.


    
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January 22 2012, 3:13 PM 

USS Enterprise heads to the Gulf amid Iran tensions

U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta addressed about 1,700 sailors headed to the Gulf this spring aboard the USS Enterprise yesterday, which after a half-century of service is about to embark on its final tour before being taken offline in November.

The Enterprise's last deployment comes at a moment of heightened tensions with Iran, which has threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, the world's most important oil shipping lane. That's something the United States says it will not allow.

The United States will not cut America's fleet of 11 aircraft carriers to help trim the budget deficit, Panetta said yesterday, citing tensions with Iran as an example of why the massive ships are so critical to national security.

"You're part of what keeps our force agile and flexible and quickly deployable and capable of taking on any enemy, anywhere in the world," Panetta said, speaking about 100 nautical miles off the coast of the U.S. state of Georgia.

"For that reason that the President of the United States and all of us have decided that it is important for us to maintain our carrier presence at full strength. And that means we'll be keeping 11 carriers in our force," he said to applause.

Next week, the Pentagon is due to announce a five-year budget plan that will cut about $260 billion from projected defense spending, scaling back the military after a decade of costly land wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Some analysts have speculated that the Pentagon could slightly shrink the carrier fleet, perhaps by slowing construction of new ships to replace older ones like the Enterprise, the world's first nuclear-powered carrier. Its missions date back to the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 and the Vietnam war.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/uss-enterprise-heads-to-the-gulf-amid-iran-tensions.aspx?pageID=238&nID=11986&NewsCatID=358

 
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January 22 2012, 6:28 PM 

The US navy will leave the Persian gulf weather they like it or not. Once the puppet Arab states regain control of their nations and wakeup.. No nation in that region will stand for it. However it wont be for another two decades or so.

Bahrain (US 5ft Fleet base) is already in trouble cause a minority rules over majority with Iron fist and has the backing of west..

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