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Is Imperialism justifiable if....?

February 27 2012 at 2:31 PM
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Is Imperialism justifiable if your nation is surrounded by inferior nations and you have a good reason to grab their resources?

I was thinking and thinking and thinking till I came to the final conclusion that YES, Imperialism is justifiable if it's for a good cause.

America used the WMD card to invade Iraq for resources, but think of it, what would Iraq under Saddam have done with those resources, with petrol? Nothing great or helpful to his people! Saddam would've exported the oil for a high price and instead of developing his nation by building schools or hospitals with the gross profit, he would've added new Russian additions to his military arsenal as if that's something worthy of remembrance.

But like it or not, at least the Americans with that petrol and the money they make from exporting it fund space programs, new technologies, developments, etc...

This doesn't mean to say the American's are knights in shining armour, nobody is perfect, but please ask yourselves this! Why do all technological developments or scientific breakthroughs come mostly from the United States of America?

Would you rather have useful resources in the hands of desert Arabs who burn others for criticizing the Quran or would you prefer the Americans? Who is of lesser evil!? Just because those resources are located in your lands, doesn't mean you have "claim", the world has no real boundaries!

I rather have oil in the hands of progressive peoples than a bunch of silly Arabs who build skyscrapers to please the masses but when there's no oil left it's game over for them.

The people who slander Americans for "Imperialism" and other crap like that are enjoying the technologies invented by the Americans because of Imperialism! It's only the tiny fraction of educated Americans, Europeans or Japanese that can offer development to humanity! Not Arabs or the rest!

Now, Imperial Japan, a mighty and honourable empire that had no resources also had no choice but to expand against 3rd world inferior nations such as China!

"Imperialism, it's what funds your science, your technology, your life, your everything" Tezel during the Plertherin Wars, annexation of the Middle-East.

Sometimes I curse and curse the Americans, all that helium3 soaked in the moon's craters which can be refined and converted into nuclear fusion energy to last the American empire another Millennium, why don't you guys go and grab them, why?????????? Grab them and leave the rest to drown in their limited resources on over-rated planet Earth that ****-hole people keep on calling heaven.

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Re: Is Imperialism justifiable if....?

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February 27 2012, 7:53 PM 

So saddam didn't in any way shape or form help build Iraq up? you do realise at point Iraq was the most developed nation in the region?

 
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February 27 2012, 8:01 PM 

I prefer USA to Saddam, if he truly did help his people why did the majority after the occupation of USA welcome the Americans and demolish his statues?

Just answer the question, is Imperialism justifiable?

I rather let petrol be in the hands of progressive peoples than those savages who burn others for criticizing the Quran.

America takes you to space, wtf did Saddam offer? More mosques and weapons?

Imperialism is what funds your medicine, your science, etc...

AND CURRENTLY most technological developments source from the Americans and not Arabs in the Middle-East!

Go and burn in heaven.

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February 27 2012, 10:26 PM 

What your saying is pure nonsense. Terms like lesser evil or greater good are dangerous - once you start to play with them you lose touch with reality.

And you clearly lost it.
You try to add moral backbone to plundering. I'll translate your views to lower level - you kill my brother cause you need money for your business, and you say that you did OK cause now you can give me a job at your company.
Thats, pure nonsense.
Advancing humanity is not worth a single life of Hindu garbage collector. If you think that it is - then congratulations, your a nazi. Just follow that pattern a little bit longer, and only conclusion is that anything that advances humanity by even tiny bit, is worth any number of lives - even if humanity itself is reduced to one family.

I don't care if it's US, Russia or Yellow bros. anyone who sees his resources being taken over in hostile manner or is negatively impacted by foreign presence has the right, and duty to take any actions he finds appropriate - including terrorism on foreign territory. Theres no such a thing as innocent civillian - government represents all citizens.



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February 27 2012, 11:43 PM 

The difference is Sparrow, I wouldn't shoot your brother for money.

This question applies only and only for the current world situation.

I believe in a society where life is free! Where there is no money, where people don;t have to think of debts, etc... that's the kind of society which questions like these won't apply to.

HOWEVER, in real world terms everything is different and the truth is that Americans or Westerners are more capable of directly or indirectly helping people than Arabs (who occupy most of the world's petrol).

If I was Obama I would destroy, pillage and annex Saudia Arabia, UAE and grab the oil to find research rather than build fancy swimming pools and tall sky scrapers!

If you want this world to be a good place, little evil for greater good is the only way!



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