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US should be like UK and wait tell planes are just about to enter service before testing aerial refueling.

Then we could avoid all questions about performance until the money for planes was already in the bank.

What are you talking about... The F-35 is currently in flight training and testing ops in the USAF. IIRC there are over 20 aircraft being flown currently.

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But but I read here that F35 wouldn't be in service tell 2020?

I agree the F-35 should pull an EF or Rafale type of thing and not deliver some capabilities until much later and than, as is the case with Rafale, demand a costly refit of 30 million euro per aircraft to get them up to date. That's much better ^^



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When brutality is the only option left,
it is holy.
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"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"

I'm not American, I'm from Flanders.

Induction into full service isn't until 2016+ that doesn't mean there aren't a good amount of them flying already.

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Rafale and Su-27/30 are sexy, this brick isn't.

I agree the F-35 should pull an EF or Rafale type of thing and not deliver some capabilities until much later and than, as is the case wit
I agree the F-35 should pull an EF or Rafale type of thing and not deliver some capabilities until much later and than, as is the case with Rafale, demand a costly refit of 30 million euro per aircraft to get them up to date. That's much better ^^

That's already what the F35 programme is doing. It's in blocks. Just like Eurofighter. As for Rafale, they would have to pay for the upgrades, just as the USAF will, since it cost money lol!

Also, in that case of Typhoon (though probably also for the others) some things are funded separately. The new UK AESA (which is supposedly now flying) is funded differently on a contract between Selex and UK MoD. I believe there is another AESA programme for Typhoon also, and then CAESAR which is an old programme.

Sexy? No way man, that one chubby looking bltch.

Victory has hundred fathers, but defeat is an orphan.