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Russia prepares army for Syrian deployment

June 13 2012 at 7:05 PM
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Russia prepares army for Syrian deployment

Given the worsening crisis in Syria, the Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper reported that the Russian army is apparently being prepared for a mission in Syria. Citing anonymous sources in the military leadership, the newspaper said that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the general staff to work out a plan for military operations outside Russia, including in Syria.

The units being prepared for an intervention are the 76th Division of airborne forces (an especially experienced unit of the Russian army), the 15th Army Division, as well as special forces from a brigade of the Black Sea fleet, which has a base in the Syrian port of Tartus.

The details of the operational plan are being prepared by the working parties of the Collective Security Treaty Organisation, to which most of the post-Soviet states belong, as well as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, to which China and Russia belong.

According to the newspaper report, deployment depends on the decision of the Russian government and the UN. However, the plans also foresee that the troops might intervene without UN approval. The Russian government has so far not confirmed the report.

On Monday last week, three Russian warships were sighted off the Syrian coast. An anonymous source from the Russian government told the Iranian newspaper Tehran Times that Moscow wants to show NATO that it will not allow any military operation against Damascus under the guise of a humanitarian mission.

Earlier, the secretary-general of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, Nikolai Bordjusha, had held out the possibility of using peacekeepers in Syria. The task in Syria is likely to be to impose peaceprimarily against the insurgents, who use weapons to solve political problems.

Russia and China strongly oppose a military intervention by NATO in Syria, and have already blocked two UN resolutions on the issue. The US and its allies, especially Turkey, Saudi Arabia and France, have stoked up a civil war in Syria and are systematically arming the so-called rebels, who consist mainly of Islamists, ex-members of the government, or Al Qaeda terrorists. Turkey is increasingly in the leadership of the US proxy war in Syria.

In recent weeks calls for a military intervention in Syria have increased. After the massacre in Houla, French President Francois Hollande spoke out in favour of military intervention. The West blamed the government of Bashar al-Assad for this massacre without any clear evidence. The German elite is also openly discussing a possible military intervention; Berlin has tried unsuccessfully to push Russia to make concessions on the issue.

Russia has not excluded a political solution, i.e., the slow transition from the Assad regime to another government. At all costs, however, the Kremlin wants to avoid the violent overthrow of Assad by the West for several reasons, whether it is through direct military intervention by NATO or is brought about by the rebels armed by the West. Two weeks ago, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev warned that a military intervention in Syria could quickly escalate and lead to the use of nuclear weapons.

Since Soviet times, Moscow and Syria have maintained close ties, especially in military and economic matters. More importantly, however, a war against Syria means a ramping up of US aggression in the Middle East. The US has already significantly extended its influence in the region through the wars against Afghanistan and Iraq. They also have military bases in almost every country in the area: Pakistan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Saudi Arabia, Oman and Turkmenistan, as well as some in other smaller states. Meanwhile, Syria and Iran, which are virtually surrounded by US military bases, have become the last bastions of Russia and China in the Middle East against the encroachment of the United States.

A regime change in Damascus would probably bring a Sunni government to power, which would work closely with Saudi Arabia and the United States against Russia and China. Moreover, an escalation of the civil war in Syriawhich is already well underwayand a military intervention would set the entire Middle East ablaze. A NATO-led war against Syria would be an immediate prelude to a war against Iran. An attack on Iran would mean another step toward a military escalation of tensions between Washington and Beijing.

While China obtains a significant portion of its raw material imports from Iran, Tehran is Russias most important ally in the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea to counter the influence of the US and Israel. Both Moscow and Tehran oppose the construction of a trans-Caspian pipeline by the West. They also reject the massive military rearmament of Azerbaijan, which is promoted by the United States, Israel and Turkey. The Caspian region is of key geopolitical importance because it links resource-rich Central Asia with Europe, and because it also has extensive oil and gas reserves.

The growing threat of war in the Middle Eastand the fact that the European countries, including Germany and France, are siding with the United Statesis increasingly driving Russia into a military alliance with China.

It is significant that Vladimir Putins first foreign visit since taking office was to Belarus, and that he then only spent a few hours in Berlin and Paris before going on to Central Asia. The highlight of his visit abroad was in China, where he met with the Chinese president, and then took part at the summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) on June 6 and 7. In addition to Russia and China, the Central Asian states of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan also belong to this organization; Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India have observer status.

As was the case at the previous meeting of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, discussion at the SCO summit centred on military and economic cooperation. The summit adopted a declaration on the establishment of a region of lasting peace and common prosperity. Military intervention against Syria or Iran was explicitly rejected.

The declaration also condemns the establishment of the NATO missile defence system in Europe, which is directed primarily against Russia and has led to severe tensions between Washington and both Europe and Moscow. In future, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization is planning to cooperate militarily more closely on issues of regional security.

During his two-day visit to Beijing, Putin had previously agreed with Chinese President Hu Jintao to jointly strengthen security in the Asia-Pacific region. Both countries intend to hold frequent joint military exercises in the Pacific, after holding joint naval exercises in the Yellow Sea in the spring. The United States is increasingly focussing its military build-up in the Asian Pacific region in preparation for a military confrontation with China

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jun2012/rusy-j12.shtml

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Talatpasha
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June 13 2012, 7:27 PM 

To be honest I would love to see those islamist cock suckers get phucked by russians.

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June 13 2012, 7:32 PM 

Never gonna happen. Nezavisimaya Gazeta is an opposition rag. They will print anything to make the Kremlin look bad and claiming Russian boys will be sent to die for sand monkeys would do just that. Russia is a xenophobic country. Russians will riot if their children are sent to die for people they perceive as their inferiors. Period. The Kremlin has 200,000 strong protests in the street today with 5% GDP growth and no war, and it will see 2 million in the streets if in intervenes so it will never happen. Only place Russia would intervene is one of the former Soviet Republics and even then it would take some mighty convincing for the government to not fall right along with such an intervention. Russia is not the USSR. Nobody in Russia believes in "internationalist obligations" anymore.





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June 13 2012, 7:45 PM 

[Russians will riot if their children are sent to die for people they perceive as their inferiors. Period.]

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June 13 2012, 7:46 PM 

So why are those ships in front of Syrian coast?
Just to stop NATO intervention or to be in the first row to watch Assad's fall?

 
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June 13 2012, 8:25 PM 

Soviet times. No free press so nobody had any idea anyone was even dying in Afghanistan, and back then they still believed in the old "internationalist obligation" and helping the poor brown people oppressed by the evil capitalists. Today the skinheads just beat the poor oppressed brown people in broad daylight, and illegal immigrants are employed like slaves in Russia. Different countries.

Normal deployments. 3 ships against NATO is a joke in any event and when its dinosaurs like the Smetlivy its not even a funny joke.



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June 14 2012, 3:18 AM 

When will China has the guts to deploy their troops to protect their interest??? I mean with all those equipments built and not where to show them off and 2 million soldiers to spare - it is kind of redundant isn't?

 
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June 14 2012, 4:16 AM 

isn't Smetlivy the flagship of blacksea fleet ?




 
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June 14 2012, 6:41 AM 

-Do Russians consider Afghans to be their superiors then?
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You slimy alien butt hurt E17, didn't he say that Russia is not USSR? When were Russians deployed on such missions in Afghanistan after USSR? Stop thinking conspiracy everywhere. wink.gif

 
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June 18 2012, 8:31 PM 

Russia sending two warships to Syrian coast: report


MOSCOW: Russia is preparing to send two amphibious assault ships to the Syrian port of Tartus where Moscow operates a strategic naval base, the Interfax news agency reported on Monday.

"Two major amphibious ships -- The Nikolai Filchenkov and The Tsezar Kunikov -- are preparing to be dispatched to Tartus outside of their schedule," the Russian news agency quoted an unidentified officer from the Russian naval headquarters as saying.

The two ships will carry a "large" group of marines, Interfax added. There was no official confirmation of the report from the navy or the defence ministry.

The Tsezar Kunikov can carry 150 landing troops and various armaments including tanks, while The Nikolai Filchenkov can carry up to 1,500 tonnes of cargo and equipment, the report said.

Interfax said that the ships could be used to evacuate Russian nationals.

"The crews of The Nikolai Filchenkov and The Tsezar Kunikov and SB-15 rescue tug together with marines on board are able to ensure security of Russian nationals and evacuate part of the property of the logistical support base if need be," Interfax quoted a source as saying.

The protracted conflict between the ruling regime and the opposition in Syria shows no signs of easing. The opposition has demanded the deployment of armed peacekeepers after UN observers halted their work because of bloodshed.

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June 18 2012, 11:23 PM 

Looks like they're being sent to Syria after all..

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June 18 2012, 11:40 PM 

The jihadis/lovers of freedom whom we're arming, will more than likely try to target Russian
troops and if successful i predict thousands more Russian troops in Syria.

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June 19 2012, 12:02 AM 

The Russian government has denied all these reports. It is utter nonsense.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/06/17/Russia-denies-warship-headed-for-Syria/UPI-52211339945690/

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June 19 2012, 2:15 AM 

Gog of Magog is being deployed.

Now let's wait for the persians and the other jihadis...

Ezekiel 38 is now in progress

 
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June 19 2012, 2:21 AM 

^ ^ ^
Egypt's all in.... the bruthahood won and is ready for battle!

Yay!!

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June 19 2012, 4:09 AM 

Large-scale military drill by Russia, China and Iran in Syria, website

June 18 An Arabic language website claims that China, Russia and Iran are going to carry out a large-scale military maneuver in Syria, the biggest of its kind in the Middle-East history, the semiofficial Fars-news agency reported Monday.
The joint exercise will be at sea, air and land on Syrian soil, the website Al-Shakhoura is quoted by Fars. It added that 90 000 military personnel, 400 air planes and 900 tanks will take part in the drill.
The Russian news agency Interfax quoting a Russian naval official says that two Russian naval vessels with marines on board were ready to head for Syria to protect Russian citizens and a naval base there, in what would be the first known reinforcement of Moscows military presence since the start of an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad.
The website also claims that also China has asked the Suez-canal authorities for passage of 12 naval ships in late June heading towards Tartus in Syria. The report did not disclose whether Iran would also send military personnel or war ships to the drill./-

 
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June 19 2012, 4:39 AM 

90 000 troops 400 planes and 900 tanks ?
yea thts going to happen
btw the original source is Fars news Agency
so now u know its not true

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