As you can see the middle T-72 takes an RPG round on its front armor on 0:08, but the tank suffers barely any damaged and keeps on moving because its ERA does its job.
inkrut, just out curiosity what model ERA is this.
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Syrians should only have K-3 era. No K-5 and certainly no Nozd or Relikt. They have ERA for all their tanks, but plenty have been seen without it in these videos. GIGANTIC tactical mistake. Nice to see at least some unit commanders are smart enough to take a couple hours and install the stuff.
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So one tank killed with mine while another survives a RPG hit. The two videos are in wrong order. The mine one is first and then RPG hit comes after. You can see flames coming out of tank hit by mine in the RPG video so most likely everyone inside it is dead.
I don't think a RPG could penetrate a T72 in that area regardless of reactive armor are not. If they had aimed for tracks instead they most likely would have gotten kill on second T72 as well.
Why the Syrian army is trying to use tanks in a urban area without infantry support is the real question.
Taken together both videos show a Syrian army slowly losing a war in my view.
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To me it looks like those tanks were driven by grandpas. RPG looked weak. Assad couldn't last this forever right and vice versa. Who is going to stop the violence and the freely often western imported islamists? I would just resign and try to save my own Alevi azz if I was Assad.
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Ok so what the fcuk were the other gunners/crew commanders doing from the time the RPG was fired, and hit the tank?? They all had turrets faced in that direction, yet none of them saw the general direction it came from? Either that, or the tanks were driving around with no ammo in them... because there's no reason not to light the position up.
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Exactly. They look even more amateurish than I thought. Maybe alot of experienced military men defected and paid fighters replaced them. A recepy doomed to fail. Yep,count for an extremist take over folks. The rest of them Alevis will burn sweetly and the hunt of the Yahoodi shall continue. It looks like a total islamist take over of the Arab world. You see Iran trolling as always khamenei having his daily noon with garlic yoghurt. ''Vant nuklier bomb?'' trollface.jpg with beard ofcourse. Could be interesting. I hope the Arabic hordes will invade the Israeli kingdom. The noble Israeli men under danger by the Arabic orcs. Hide yo kids,hide yo wife.
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No smoke grenades to evade after the first hit??
Also, they are so many tanks, why dont they siege the enemy position from further away out of rpg range?
Wheres the infantry support?
IFVs to pound general direction?
And remember admiral akbar: Its a trap!
You just dont take the big, open road that looks so inviting..
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Ok so what the fcuk were the other gunners/crew commanders doing from the time the RPG was fired, and hit the tank?? They all had turrets faced in that direction, yet none of them saw the general direction it came from? Either that, or the tanks were driving around with no ammo in them... because there's no reason not to light the position up.
RPG hit looks like it was fired from a rooftop tanks main gun may not have been able to elevate high enough to return fire. I don't know enough about HMG arangement on that tank but to say for certain but if person has to stick there head out to fire HMG then I could see the reasons for not taking that risk.
No smoke grenades seems inexplicable but could well just be a issue of not having any of them to use.
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Now someone has decided to put out fake video trying to claim tank hit by RPG exploded later. The last frame where video stops in link bellow is actually the initial blast of the RPG hit that lasts only a few frames before the smaller after effects that last a bit longer. If you can pause at right moment on the first video in this thread at 8 second mark you can see the initial large blast that the fakers are claiming came later.
So what exactly was going on in that first video? It looked like the guy from the one tank was putting explosives on an abandoned vehicle that was just off camera? And then in that second video again, they aren't returning fire after being shot at. Do they just suck that bad, or does anyone think they could be holding back because of ROE?
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