Re: 20,000 muslims killed in Burma in last few months
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July 18 2012, 7:37 PM
Ummmmm. You have a title but nothing to support it.
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Re: 20,000 muslims killed in Burma in last few months
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July 18 2012, 10:52 PM
Hmmmmmm. Nine and fifty don't seem to add up to 20,000.
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Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation."
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Re: 20,000 muslims killed in Burma in last few months
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July 19 2012, 5:47 PM
Hmmmmmmm. Both of those reports are about allegations of the numbers killed. We have actual reports of 59 and then we have two links that claim 20,000 "alleged" to have been murdered. Look, I'm no fan of either Burma or Buddhists, particularly, but before you start claiming that 20,000 have been murdered as opposed to have alleged to have been murdered, you really need some proof that that is, in fact, the case.
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It is the teaching of all history that liberty can only be preserved in small areas. Local self-government is, therefore, indispensable to liberty. A centralized and distant bureaucracy is the worst of all tyranny.
Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation."
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It's not really in the Western medias interest to investigate and find out for sure. Our media is too busy making up and trumping fake stories like these...
Re: 20,000 muslims killed in Burma in last few months
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July 19 2012, 5:55 PM
Gvie little description who these people are. They were settled during British rule,were brought by British govt. Majority of these muslim are ex soldiers of Royal British army and serve Second world war as British soldiers. They are victim of British hate. These Burmese rats burn their villages and killed families....Its time for British govt to intervene and provide security to its ex service men and their families who are living in misery.
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Re: 20,000 muslims killed in Burma in last few months
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July 19 2012, 8:46 PM
Well there goes your theory about peaceful buddhists everyone is good except Muslims bullcrap.
Aren't these people ethnically the same? What happened buddhists I thought you were all wise and good. Tollerant to other religions my azz. It took two supposed ''muslims''(by brand) to do something bad and sh!t hit the fan with these oh so tollerant people.
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Re: 20,000 muslims killed in Burma in last few months
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July 21 2012, 12:39 PM
How many "infidels" were killed by islamic militants in last few months?
Myanmar is not a buddhist state, it is a military state and is as buddhist as the chinese who massacred the uighurs recently.
Many times muslim posters here claim how islamic terror is strong, how muslims cannot be cowed down and how the world will tremble and bla bla bla. The fact is that today jihad is a powerful crisis only because western democracies value human liberties. One jihadi will hide in a muslim community and plant bombs in markets, bombs explode and people die. Police have to find out the single muslim from the entire community and also take care not to hurt muslim sentiments.
No such political correctness in military states like burma and China. They will kill the entire community if they cannot find the single terrorist. The Sri Lankans did the same thing against the LTTE. They shepherded the entire tamil community in northern sri lanka in concentration camps and started the blitz. The war against LTTE is over but the war in iraq and afghanistan will continue forever.
If the muslims blend themselves into a multi-cultural society instead of being an outcaste then such things wont happen.
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July 21 2012, 12:51 PM
LTTE neturalizing strategy work because it island. No border attach. Plus people should not give them reason to raise the arm. If they raise the arm to protect themselves then western media will start calling them terrorist. Better resolve know otherwise it will be too late.Again British govt should interven who brought these Indian national in Burma in the name of Queen.
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Re: 20,000 muslims killed in Burma in last few months
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July 21 2012, 1:01 PM
LTTE neturalizing strategy work because it island. No border attach.
It works everywhere, it needs political resolve.
What happened against the tamils is technically a war crime. The innocents will also get butchered with the guilty but it is an extreme step taken when there is no other recourse. You think the taliban can do anything if USA starts carpet bombing every inch of afghanistan?
Plus people should not give them reason to raise the arm. If they raise the arm to protect themselves then western media will start calling them terrorist. Better resolve know otherwise too late.
If you raise arms than be prepared for your arm to get cut. China and burma are not democracies, the freedoms that are guaranteed to you in europe and USA do not exist in military states. If one muslim carries out jihad then his entire community will suffer, that is how you fight jihad.
Do muslims in burma have the courage to do jihad in china and burma? No, you know why? Coz like in sri lanka the entire islamic population will be butchered and you islamic states wont be even able to raise a finger.
During the initial iraq war days, two nepalis were abducted and beheaded. A furious mob locked up a mosque filled with praying muslims and burnt down the mosque along with all the muslims inside it. No warning from any islamic group, because there is not enough muslims in nepal for jihadis to gain a foothold.
Random violence against muslims is a form of counter jihad, an extreme reaction. Jihadis kill innocent people for alleged crimes done by western forces in islamic countries, military states kill muslims to avenge death of civilains at the hands of jihadis.
A simple give and take formula. Whats wrong phuckistani, are you shoocked to see that there are countries who are even more ruthless and barbaric than muslims?
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July 21 2012, 1:12 PM
Yes we know your Mother India killed more Muslims,Christians and Sikh in the name of democracy. Check the record. You Beloved husband of Mother India , Phukistan killed less then your mother killed you own country men. Surprise Mother India fvck you sisters and motehrs daily and you guys still pimping for Mother India.....proven harmless....
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July 21 2012, 4:01 PM
"Thats an odd thing to say Brit. Why dont you join these buddhist rats if you hate muslims so much. Go kill some children and women."
That's an odd thing to say Muslim, as you can see from NATO videos, children and non-combatants are not targeted. Unlike Muslims who absolutely don't give a f*** about who they kill and how. Muslims are the lowest of the low.
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July 22 2012, 11:48 PM
The Muslims in Burma comparatively have far more safety than the Shia's and Ahmedi's have in Pakistan. More muslims get killed in intra muslim voilence in pakistan than they do in Buddhist-Muslim voilence in Burma.Its quite ironical that a pakistani shia is shedding crocodile tears for Burmese Muslims .
Another irony is many of those 'Burmese muslims' are bangladeshi Muslim migrants whose fellow people were not long ago were genocided by the brave muslim army of pakistan for seeking independence from pakistani brutality.
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July 23 2012, 12:01 AM
^^ The hindu is drunk on cow urine again. 90,000 fleeing,30,000 dead..clearly you are not big on numbers are you? Keep counting those small pebbles while you are crawling in your own doodoo.
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July 23 2012, 12:24 AM
\\90,000 fleeing,30,000 dead..clearly you are not big on numbers are you? \\
Not trying to minimise the suffering of the victims, but if you want to talk in terms of numbers, this is comparatively very less than what the brave muslim army of pakistan did to the fellow muslims of Bangladeshis (the same people who migrated to Burma centuries before and today called as 'Burmese Muslims') .
'Bangladeshi authorities claim that 3 million people were killed, while the Hamoodur Rahman Commission, an official Pakistan Government investigation, put the figure as low as 26,000 civilian casualties. The fact is that the number of dead in Bangladesh in 1971 was almost certainly well into seven figures. It was one of the worst genocides of the World War II era, outstripping Rwanda (800,000 killed) and probably surpassing even Indonesia (1 million to 1.5 million killed in 1965-66).'
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July 23 2012, 12:52 AM
We are not talking about Pakistan though...
In what became province-wide acts of genocide, Hindus were sought out and killed on the spot. As a matter of course, soldiers would check males for the obligated circumcision among Moslems. If circumcised, they might live; if not, sure death.
So their goal were the hindus..and now the buddhists are aiming for the muslims. Two wrongs dont make it right.
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July 23 2012, 1:08 AM
\\We are not talking about Pakistan though... \\
But it is a pakistani who opened this thread. If you cared to read my earlier post, i was referring to his hypocracy of shedding tears for the same people who fellow kinsmen were genocided by the very same army of the thread opener.
\\So their goal were the hindus..and now the buddhists are aiming for the muslims.\\
Their goal were Hindus AND muslims (who opposed them). In order to delegitimize the Bangaldeshi freedom movement, the Pakis branded every freedom fighter either a Hindu or Hindu agent and killed them.
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July 26 2012, 7:49 AM
When few christian died in Somalia ,,bbc and cnn run the news 24 hours and get them separate home land. Now thousand of muslim died and world media silent. What s wrong with Indian they are silent why don't they go in Burma and play the same role they played in Bangladesh .....otherwise put another and dot on their head
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