The pic shows heavy damage. No injuries though:



US destroyer collides with oil tankerPosted 12 August 2012, 22:18 AEST
A US guided-missile destroyer has collided with a Japanese-owned oil tanker near the entrance to the Gulf, but there are no injuries, the US Fifth Fleet says.

"No-one was hurt Sunday morning when a US Navy guided-missile destroyer and a large Japanese-owned merchant vessel collided near the Strait of Hormuz," the Bahrain-based fleet said in a statement on its website.

"The collision between USS Porter (DDG 78) and the Panamanian-flagged bulk oil tanker M/V Otowasan occurred at approximately 1:00am," it said.

The collision "was not combat related," it added.

Overall damage to the destroyer is being evaluated, but the ship is "able to operate under its own power" the Fifth Fleet said.

The destroyer is on a scheduled deployment to the Fifth Fleet, it added.

About one fifth of the world's traded oil passes through the narrow Strait of Hormuz, which connects the oil-rich Gulf to the Indian Ocean.

Tension spiked in the area earlier this year as Iran threatened to block the waterway in retaliation for a Western boycott of its oil exports.

AFP

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/2012-08-12/us-destroyer-collides-with-oil-tanker/997830

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Some more pictures:

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The most impressive is that in some places the destroyer is rusted, not looking good
and possibly dangerous.

It's rusted because its been out at sea. That is what happens when a country actually uses their naval vessels.

Very strange impact. It's high so I suppose the tanker was pretty huge but the damage, which seemed to have happened at a 90% angle, seems pretty light. I see two possibilities:
-The tanker wasn't that heavy which is unlikely for a tanker but it could have been empty
-Or this ship has the most amazing armor that I have ever seen.



Anyone with more experience care to share his thoughts, Provost maybe?



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"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"

I'm not American, I'm from Flanders.

The lack of fragmentation or propellant burn marks aside, looking at the pics and the impact height and damage, the momentum of the hit resembles that of a missile strike.

Also note that the impact occured at a critical structural junction of the ship (where the bow and superstructure meet).

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"It's rusted because its been out at sea. That is what happens when a country actually uses their naval vesse"

No **** Sherlock, the point is that it probably wasn`t very good maintened. Sea is a very hostile
environment and corrosion can be very sneaky there.

It has nothing to do with maintenance. Vessels that are at sea for extended periods of time will develop surface rust no matter what you do. When the deployment is over the rust will be removed and the ship repaired. When you see a vessel without superficial surface rust that generally tells you that the ship just started its deployment or the vessel is used little and rarely gets away from the harbor.

"the momentum of the hit resembles that of a missile strike."

That was not a missile.



Just skip to the 30 second part of the video. Missile penetrates, then detonates.

Even if the warhead was a dud, there would be a neat hole and incendiary damage, see pics of HMS Sheffield. Although one imagines the US didn't skimp on costs like the UK did.

Cabling that burned and gave toxic fumes, man made fibres that melted and stuck to the skin when flash burned, instead of good old cotton which smoulders.

The US commander may have gone all Roman....

"It has nothing to do with maintenance. Vessels that are at sea for extended periods of time will develop surface rust no matter what you do."

If your ship has visible marks of corrosion in the sea then its safe to assume that pit corrosion,
a very dangerous and invisible kind of corrosion, its already very very deep threateting
the structural integrity of any structure.

"Even if the warhead was a dud, there would be a neat hole and incendiary damage, see pics of HMS Sheffield. Although one imagines the US didn't skimp on costs like the UK did. "

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You're right. Even if it was a smaller dud missile (like a Penguin), there would be fragmentation and fuel burn damage. This is definately a blunt blow. Still, kind of reminiscent of the exocet strike on the Stark though.

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"It has nothing to do with maintenance. Vessels that are at sea for extended periods of time will develop surface rust no matter what you do. When the deployment is over the rust will be removed and the ship repaired. When you see a vessel without superficial surface rust that generally tells you that the ship just started its deployment or the vessel is used little and rarely gets away from the harbor."

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Though you would think they would clean the surface rust on the phased array plate (Aegis system) often as it might impede or effect the radar's peformance? Don't know, it just looks poorly maintained to me too...

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Some people will be licked out of the USN because it's clearly the DDGs fault, unless it was on anchor in the midle of the straight.

The damages look bad, will be in dock for a while.

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How did this happen with all the advanced equipments on board of both ships, especially the DDG?

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"The tanker wasn't that heavy which is unlikely for a tanker but it could have been empty"

a large cargoship or oiltanker is never empty as the ballast tanks are filled with water, but even hypothetically speaking an empty oiltanker is still a heavy beast , even at slow speed it is tremendous momentum, but I doubt it was a head on fullforce collision as the damage would have been worse and sailor would have been injured or died





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If it was an Indian navy ship then we would have had an enitrely different range of comments :P

Well this was a way how to stop Japan to import oil from Iran. Since Japan still trades with Iran, US NAVY found a new way how to stop it-simply by collision of ships...

lol, sounds far fetched

Even if that was the objective, to stop the oil-cargo of only one ship is hardly making any difference to be worth damaging a destroyer and jeopardizing the life of servicemen for, there are easier and cheaper ways to sabotage an oilship, not to mention less sensational and attention creating, like for example using the navy seal divers to sabotage the ship while in harbour or something a little more creative

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And now imagine the damage of an Iranian missile on that destroyer.



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And now imagine an Aegis defence system stopping tht Iranian missile =) ^^^



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Anyone with more experience care to share his thoughts, Provost maybe?

Well, Eric, I'm certainly no expert on naval architecture but today's ships are relatively lightly built compared to World War II vessels and before. It appears to me from these and the other photos I've seen as a glancing blow. Though I must admit I'm puzzled as to how it could have happened. My guess is the tanker wasn't loaded or even a glancing blow would have been more severe.


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everyone is thinking about a super tanker, but most probably it was a rather smaller one.
Would it have been a supper tanker then the damage point would have been much higher &/or much deeper.
Also it's probable that they didn't crash at full speed.
last but not least, we don't know the damage that was done by the bulge of the tanker to the DDG, below the waterline.

USS Porter CO Fired After Collision

Aug 30, 2012

Associated Press
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NORFOLK, Va. - The skipper of the USS Porter has been removed from command after his ship collided with an oil tanker just outside the strategic Strait of Hormuz.

The commander of Naval Surface Force Atlantic relieved Cmdr. Martin Arriola of command on Thursday.

The collision earlier this month left a breach about 10 feet by 10 feet in the starboard side of the USS Porter, a Norfolk-based guided-missile destroyer. No one was injured on either vessel.

The Navy says Rear Adm. Dave Thomas reassigned Arriola to the staff of Naval Surface Force Atlantic because of a loss of confidence in Arriola's ability to command.

Porter's new commanding officer is Cmdr. Dave Richardson, the former executive officer of USS McFaul.

The USS Porter is undergoing repair in the United Arab Emirates.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/08/30/destroyer-co-loses-command-after-collision.html?ESRC=eb.nl

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"The chief aim of all government is to preserve the freedom of the citizen. His control over his person, his property, his movements, his business, his desires should be restrained only so far as the public welfare imperatively demands. The world is in more danger of being governed too much than too little. It is the teaching of all history that liberty can only be preserved in small areas. Local self-government is, therefore, indispensable to liberty. A centralized and distant bureaucracy is the worst of all tyranny. Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation." John W. Davis, Democratic Presidential Candidate, 1924. Davis was one of the greatest trial and appellate lawyers in US history. He also served as the US Ambassador to the UK.

Oh boy he's peeleepinoy..! I hope titty doesn't see this.

What the hell was he doing?!? What the hell were the radar operators doing?!?

If you can't see a friggin tanker coming at you, i think it's time to retire.

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supapowah USA learning from supapowah india lol

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That was funny. But puh-lease!! You know that a Carrier task force can take on the whole
oriental navy and sink it. Making the south china sea the new yellow sea with all those chinamen
swimming in the water.

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what's the point of posting this guy picture here? lol trying to say this wouldn't have happened if he's white? he's ameican isn't he? typical lolz



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Who said that..? You're the one hung up about his race.


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i can sense the blaming excuse. this guy is a pinoy and his name don't sound very asian. post picture, so people to show that this was not the work of a white man. lolz

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So now you're claiming you have extrasensory perception and know what Randy
meant when he posted that pic..?

WOW! You're good.

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Well, Provost often times posts pictures from the article, along with its text. I don't think there was any racial motivation behind this. Stop being a n00b..

Also, direct your attention at these threads to see what I mean..

http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1346435182/last-1346450652/Futuristic+Ships+Anchor+US+Navy+Surface+Plans

http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1346434856/last-1346440077/China+Cannot+Get+Enough+Mi-171s

http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1346169567/last-1346435086/Orderly+and+Humane-+The+Expulsion+of+the+Germans+after+the+Second+World+War

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Pfft. But you're an insignificant... chinamen no berieve yu!

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Oh boy he's peeleepinoy..! I hope titty doesn't see this.
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isn't this posted by you, elwacko? lolz


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It wasn't meant as a critique on his ability to command, you dingleberry!

Titty has a thing for filipinos no matter what job they have. I thought you had
ESP..?

If i wanted to critique his race as being a handicap for the collision, i would have made
a specific remark about it.

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"everyone is thinking about a super tanker, but most probably it was a rather smaller one. "

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=371687000

Vessel's Details
Ship Type: Crude oil tanker
Year Built: 2005
Length x Breadth: 333 m X 60 m
Gross Tonnage: 160292, DeadWeight: 302477 t
Speed recorded (Max / Average): 16.7 / 10.3 knots
Flag: Panama [PA]
Call Sign: 3EDW5
IMO: 9294252, MMSI: 371687000
Last Position Received
Area: Japan
Latitude / Longitude: 33.84858° / 131.7928° (Map)
Currently in Port:
Last Known Port: DAS ISLAND
Info Received: 1d 4h 22min ago
Not Currently in Range

...hmmmm it apparently sailed back to Japan after the collision. It appears it would be considered a "Supertanker" by current standards...

"Supertanker" is an informal term used to describe the largest tankers. Today it is applied to very-large crude carriers (VLCC) and ULCCs with capacity over 250,000 DWT. These ships can transport 2,000,000 barrels (320,000 m3) of oil/318 000 metric tons.[46] By way of comparison, the United Kingdom consumed about 1.6 million barrels (250,000 m3) of oil per day in 2009.[47]

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A lot of people poke fun and that's all right.

But when I start pokin back they get all uptight.

what's the point of posting this guy picture here? lol trying to say this wouldn't have happened if he's white? he's ameican isn't he? typical lolz

Simply because you are racist does not mean I am. As Element noted, if the article has a photo associated with it I post it. Your ignorance should not be implied to apply to me.

Nemo me impune lacesset,

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"The chief aim of all government is to preserve the freedom of the citizen. His control over his person, his property, his movements, his business, his desires should be restrained only so far as the public welfare imperatively demands. The world is in more danger of being governed too much than too little. It is the teaching of all history that liberty can only be preserved in small areas. Local self-government is, therefore, indispensable to liberty. A centralized and distant bureaucracy is the worst of all tyranny. Taxation can justly be levied for no purpose other than to provide revenue for the support of the government. To tax one person, class or section to provide revenue for the benefit of another is none the less robbery because done under the form of law and called taxation." John W. Davis, Democratic Presidential Candidate, 1924. Davis was one of the greatest trial and appellate lawyers in US history. He also served as the US Ambassador to the UK.