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Outcry over Pakistan attack on activist Malala Yousafza, 14

October 9 2012 at 10:43 PM
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An attack by Taliban gunmen in north-west Pakistan that wounded a 14-year-old who campaigned for girls' rights has caused an outcry in the country.

Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head on her way home from school in Mingora, the main town in the Swat Valley.

The president and prime minister have led condemnation of the attack.

Initial reports suggested she was out of danger, but there is growing concern over her condition with some reports saying she may need treatment abroad.

A Pakistani Taliban spokesman told the BBC they carried out the attack.

Ehsanullah Ehsan told BBC Urdu that they attacked her because she was anti-Taliban and secular, adding that she would not be spared.

Malala Yousafzai came to public attention in 2009 by writing a diary for BBC Urdu about life under Taliban militants who had taken control of the valley.

'Courage silenced'

Almost immediately afterwards, the attack was condemned by politicians and media personalities.

President Asif Ali Zardari said that Tuesday's attack would not shake Pakistan's resolve to fight Islamist militants or the government's determination to support women's education.

He said that the aim of the "terrorists" who carried it out was to weaken the resolve of the nation - but the country would continue its fight against militants "until its logical conclusion".

In a statement about the attack, Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf said: "We have to fight the mindset that is involved in this. We have to condemn it... Malala is like my daughter, and yours too. If that mindset prevails, then whose daughter would be safe?"

The attack has also been condemned by most of Pakistan's major political parties, TV celebrities and human rights groups including the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) and Amnesty International.

HRCP senior official Kamila Hayat praised Malala Yousafzai for standing up to the militants and sending a message across the world that Pakistani girls had the courage to fight for their rights. But she also worried that Tuesday's shooting would prevent other parents from letting their children speak out against the Taliban.

"This is an attack to silence courage through a bullet," Ms Hayat said. "These are the forces who want to take us to the dark ages."

Malala Yousafzai was travelling with at least one other girl when she was shot, but there are differing accounts of how events unfolded.

One report, citing local sources, says a bearded gunman stopped a car full of schoolgirls, and asked for Malala Yousafzai by name, before opening fire.

But a police official also told BBC Urdu that unidentified gunmen opened fire on the schoolgirls as they were about to board a van or bus.

She was hit in the head and, some reports say, in the neck area by a second bullet. Another girl who was with her at the time was also injured.

Doctors who treated her in Mingora initially said she was out of danger. She has now been taken by helicopter to Peshawar for further treatment, officials say.

Suffering exposed

Malala Yousafzai was just 11 when she was writing her diary, two years after the Taliban took over the Swat Valley, and ordered girls' schools to close.

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In the diary, which she kept for the BBC's Urdu service under a pen name, she exposed the suffering caused by the militants as they ruled.

She used the pen-name Gul Makai when writing the diary. Her identity only emerged after the Taliban were driven out of Swat and she later won a national award for bravery and was also nominated for an international children's peace award.

Correspondents say she earned the admiration of many across Pakistan for her courage in speaking out about life under the brutal rule of Taliban militants.

One poignant entry said that her dream was a country where "education would prevail".

Taliban driven out

The BBC's Orla Guerin in Islamabad says that Malala Yousafzai was a public figure who didn't shy away from risks and had strong support from her parents for her activism. Indeed, her father, who is a school teacher, expressed his pride in her campaigning.

The Taliban captured the Swat Valley in late 2007 and remained in de facto control until they were driven out by Pakistani military forces during an offensive in 2009.

While in power they closed girls' schools, promulgated Sharia law and introduced measures such as banning the playing of music in cars.

Since they were ejected, there have been isolated militant attacks in Swat but the region has largely remained stable and many of the thousands of people who fled during the Taliban years have returned.

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Orla Guerin BBC News, Islamabad

The chilling attack on the young peace campaigner has been leading TV news bulletins here. Malala Yousafzai is one of the best-known schoolgirls in the country. Young as she is, she has dared to do what many others do not - publicly criticise the Taliban.

Malala's confident, articulate campaign for girls' education has won her admirers - and recognition - at home and abroad. She has appeared on national and international television, and spoken of her dream of a future Pakistan where education would prevail.

Even by the standards of blood-soaked Pakistan, there has been shock at the shooting. It has been condemned by Pakistan's Prime Minister, Raja Pervez Ashraf, who sent a helicopter to transfer Malala to hospital in Peshawar.

The head of Pakistan's Independent Human Rights Commission, Zohra Yusuf, said "this tragic attack on this courageous child" sends a very disturbing message to all those working for women and girls.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19890022

 
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October 9 2012, 10:50 PM 

Islam is still bein better.

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October 10 2012, 3:29 AM 

@latino pool cleaner

where were you when 40k+ muslims were butchered by burmease infidels?.. or when daily drone attacks kills thousands... but here you are on this one murder?


i believe you are unbalanced like all true infidels



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October 10 2012, 3:45 AM 

better ignore him prado, it's fun to watch that poor kid making fun of himself

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October 10 2012, 4:59 AM 

its girls fault. Islam is 4 peace and piousness it has no place 4 things like girl's school.

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October 10 2012, 7:07 AM 

no wonder all islamic countries are backward and socially impoverished.

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October 10 2012, 10:47 PM 

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October 10 2012, 11:04 PM 

I noticed that prado did not bother to read the story, or do a simple google. Shes not dead.

 
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October 10 2012, 11:37 PM 

Malala Yousafzai: Pakistan bullet surgery 'successful'
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October 11 2012, 2:15 AM 

@pifpon

didnt read ?...lool you must mistake me for your selves..

the point is why all the concern for this girl?... when anti drone activities and other artroticies are ignored by the infidel combo in this forum?...

but thanks for the concern here is some news for you titty babies


1) As you can see Pak army was in the front of her recovery providing the necessary resources

2) the government top leadership has come out in support of her

3) the parliment in a rare unified move had move in support of her and hammered the Pak taliban

4) Pak media has given this round the clock and for change political parties and different cross section of the intellgensia instead of eating one another had come out in massive condemnation

5) rallies and prayers are were held around the country..

but of course infidelic combo in waff would like you to believe no one in Pakistan care.....


note: Pakistani taliban has been armed and continued to be supported by CIA and RAW. they have bases in with Afganistan from which they launch attacks. A charge continously made by the Pakistan Army.





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October 11 2012, 2:18 AM 

Probably due to the fact that she wasn't killed hiding/housing terrorists like happens the vast majority of the time when civilians are killed in the taliban controlled northern part of pakiland. She was someone asking for those apes to leave her country and let people be free and she was directly targetted for assassination. See the difference?

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October 11 2012, 4:01 AM 

The tragic part is that Pakistan lost her greatest opportunity to get rid of these barbaric neanderthals by being transparent with NATO and fully supporting US and NATO operations in Afghanistan and northern Pakistan. Instead they, especially the ISI, chose to play a double game that will haunt them for decades to come. But then again Pakistan has too many factions, political and ideological, that only care for their own existence. Most Pakistanis should be deeply worried about the next couple decades. They have covertly created a monster they have very little control over and very little power to tackle, except appeasement.

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October 11 2012, 4:31 AM 

Just curious; how many Muslim/Islamic clerics have come out publicly to condemn the attempted murder of this young and innocent girl?









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Malala Yousufzai - Free Pakistan - Kill the Taliban

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October 11 2012, 11:39 PM 

Watch my video "Malala Yousufzai - Free Pakistan - Kill the Taliban"

Video in 2 parts -

1) CBS News story reporting Malala Yousufzai shot
2) Musical tribute to Malala Yousufzai - Free Pakistan - Kill the Taliban - "May it be" by Enya.

May it be the shadow's call
Will fly away
May it be your journey on
To light the day
When the night is overcome
You may rise to find the sun
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A promise lives within you now


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"4) Pak media has given this round the clock and for change political parties and different cross section of the intellgensia instead of eating one another had come out in massive condemnation "

Actually I believe most of the Pakistani press are blaming the US for creating the Taliban in the first place and driving people to support it with their continued use of drone strikes...which of course is a lie, as the Taliban as a movement is a creature of the ISI and to this day receives large amounts of funding and support from the Pakistani military...

http://tribune.com.pk/story/283051/isi-arming-and-training-us-claim-taliban-commanders/

Personally I am beginning to think that the Pakistani military is waging a clandestine civil war against it's own government to maintain their power in Pakistan.




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October 12 2012, 4:17 AM 

@colade

as usual you are always wrong

Pak army never trained the Pak taliban only the agfan taliban, and they never attack pakistan it thier in thier code. but some how keep getting this basic fact wrong. (brain washed i guess)...

PS How on earth do Pak taliban get an equipment that jams Pakistani cobra gunships targeting equipment? (source General mushraf on national TV, this was based on this interview with Cobra pilots), or sophisticated gear communication gear that Pak Army doesnt have.


Pak media believes it based on research work done by Hamid Mir Pakistan top investigative journalist, and this guy is incredibily good at this work and the allegations by Pakistan Army which is increasingly have been providing presuasive evidence.

now as noob you ask why would CIA do this?...

one objective only to destablise Pakistan and make a case to de-nuke Pakistan at the UN. Notice how your media gave world wide coverage to attack on airfaclity whose premeter defence wasnt even breached yet fears of nuke safely were high lighted?... while a similar type attack which destroys your harriers get a muted coverage?

you doing the same in Syria and will probably succeed, if read recent report a US military team is currently in Jordan to "address concerns about syria's Chemical weapons"... great job! help create a crisis and made a perfect case to remove your thorns in the proccess...

and please dont talk about how westerners care about human rights because you dont..e.g. Bahrain as a perfect case in point



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@Prado

Do you have any links for all of these claims?

...because I really don't care what anyone in the Pakistani military establishment has to say anymore...for the most part they have been proven to be liars and double dealers even to their people, government and nation...so they can make all the claims they wish, but the evidence seems to indicate that they are playing a cynical game to maintain their position of power, and unfortunately this game is costing brave Pakistanis such as Malala their health and often their lives.

As for "de-nuking" Pakistan, I can't think of another issue that both the West and the BRIC governments could all agree upon...when Pakistan inevitably falls into the anarchy it's military has created for itself, it will be a necessary action.


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Colade

Links?..lol you think proof is links?..

how about reserach and little common sense?


speaking of liars there is one proven that is the USA..


Don t care what pak army thinks? the question do you even matter?...lool

the implication is because of the time factor of iran and syria, Pakistan military is building measures to fight not only the Indian but NATO as well.. it already has started training even larger number of troops on it;s nuke sites not for a taliban but also against NATO. And when the time comes Pak soldiers will trigger happy on NATO soldiers as they do with indians...

The implication is also come the new government Pakistan is for ever going shift any sort of strategic ties with the west completely. China will essentially to come dominate this region with gates open by Pakistan. The Naval base for the chinese military is already given the go ahead. Pakistan will not even care what the west say.

The implication is also now Pak military will accept nothing short of a completely sympathetic government Kabul with no exception. They will not compromise till NATO leave and the Karzai regime falls.

there are alot more implication but i gather it would just go over your head...


you clearly dont know a lot nor can you apply anything correctly



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8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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Colade

Links?..lol you think proof is links?..

how about reserach and little common sense?


speaking of liars there is one proven that is the USA..


Don t care what pak army thinks? the question do you even matter?...lool

the implication is because of the time factor of iran and syria, Pakistan military is building measures to fight not only the Indian but NATO as well.. it already has started training even larger number of troops on it;s nuke sites not for a taliban but also against NATO. And when the time comes Pak soldiers will trigger happy on NATO soldiers as they do with indians...

The implication is also come the new government Pakistan is for ever going shift any sort of strategic ties with the west completely. China will essentially to come dominate this region with gates open by Pakistan. The Naval base for the chinese military is already given the go ahead. Pakistan will not even care what the west say.

The implication is also now Pak military will accept nothing short of a completely sympathetic government Kabul with no exception. They will not compromise till NATO leave and the Karzai regime falls.

there are alot more implication but i gather it would just go over your head...


you clearly dont know a lot nor can you apply anything correctly



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8 F-86Fs of No 19 Squadron led by Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider struck Pathankot airfield. With carefully positioned dives and selecting each individual aircraft in their protected pens for their strafing attacks, the strike elements completed a textbook operation against Pathankot. Wing Commander M G Tawab, flying one of the two Sabres as tied escorts overhead, counted 14 wrecks burning on the airfield. Among the aircraft destroyed on the ground were nearly all of the IAFs Soviet-supplied Mig-21s till then received, none of which were seen again during the War.


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October 12 2012, 7:15 AM 

I hope all ppl in phuckistan think like u prado.

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"Links?..lol you think proof is links?.. "

Translation: "I am just making stuff up...again."

...and no I think published articles reporting on what it is you are claiming would lend credibility to your claims, as you have been proven numerous times to simply make things up to support your opinions.

"The implication is also now Pak military will accept nothing short of a completely sympathetic government Kabul with no exception. They will not compromise till NATO leave and the Karzai regime falls."

Well all I can say to that is that since the TTP is a direct off-shoot of the Afghanistan Taliban and Pakistan has demonstrated an ineptness in foreign policy and king making perhaps unmatched in all of human history, I will wish Pakistan the best of luck in that course of action but will expect them to fail miserably (like the Pakistani military does with most things) much to the detriment of the Pakistani population.

As for the Chinese becoming Pakistan's sugar-daddy to protect it from the illusory threat of India, the Chinese are very risk adverse and since the ISI has taken to funding and training the Muslim separatists in Xinjiang, I imagine their patience with Pakistan is wearing pretty thin these days.


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October 13 2012, 2:31 AM 

like i said it is you who makes up things.... i dont.

the problem with you is that

a) your knowledge is limited, oh CIA & RAW good guy they dont destablise countries..lol.. hahha .. any body with half a brain and a little quality research will know a they have been doing it for a long time

b) you application is really poor, probably due to poor quality education and brain washing


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this is just a start.,. but more when i have time to educate titty brained people like you




    
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October 13 2012, 3:02 AM 

As for the Chinese becoming Pakistan's sugar-daddy to protect it from the illusory threat of India, the Chinese are very risk adverse and since the ISI has taken to funding and training the Muslim separatists in Xinjiang, I imagine their patience with Pakistan is wearing pretty thin these days.
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RE: this is an example for your typical lies and stuff you make up....

now for the truth, i will narrate what an indian security analyst commented on this "theory" in response to questioning by a stupid indian journalist trying to make nexus on chinese militants and ISI.

He stated, that the "Chinese have no problem with Pakistan's GHQ,all China does is call them up and ask a list of militants to be handed over and Pakistan with no time wasted round thems up and hands them to the chinese, no questions asked"...

really colade try harder and use some brains... indians them selves debunked this theory which a few excited indian media elements were distributing like candy and you like nilly willy clown with out even going the least bit proccess of taught are presenting this to me as facts??...

if there was even a ounce of evidence ISI was making trouble in china, China would have ripped us apart in no time.... instead they continue to support and remind our people china with us, via many means.


really there is a reason why you keep getting owned 247.... it is called being STUPID.







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"He stated, that the "Chinese have no problem with Pakistan's GHQ,all China does is call them up and ask a list of militants to be handed over and Pakistan with no time wasted round thems up and hands them to the chinese, no questions asked"... "

Again, do you have anything that supports what you claim Prado?

I have to ask because your grasp on reality has been proven time and again to be somewhat tenuous.
Closer China-Afghanistan ties will stem Pak-based terror

The formal establishment of a liaison relationship between China and Afghanistan would enable the two countries to exchange intelligence regarding the activities of the extremist organisations in the Xinjiang province of China and the Central Asian Republics, notes B Raman.

The internal security services of China and Afghanistan signed a formal agreement at Kabul on Saturday to have a liaison relationship between them. The agreement, inter alia, provides for exchange of security-related intelligence, counter-terrorism co-operation and training of Afghan police officers by China.

The agreement was signed by officials of the two countries during an unannounced four-hour hush-hush visit to Kabul by Zhou Yongkang, a member of the standing committee of the politburo of the Communist Party of China, who is also the minister for public security.

The ministry of public security is responsible for internal intelligence and security. In addition, it also supervises the work of the police and the criminal justice system all over China. Counter-terrorism, counter-insurgency and counter-intelligence are among its responsibilities. The external intelligence service of China is called the ministry of state security.

Officials in charge of internal security and counter-terrorism in the two countries have been in informal touch with each other in the framework of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, of which Afghanistan is an observer. An agreement to formalise and upgrade this relationship was taken during a visit of President Hamid Karzai to Beijing in June to attend an SCO summit.

The formal establishment of a liaison relationship would enable the two services to exchange intelligence regarding the activities of the extremist organisations of the Xinjiang province of China and the Central Asian Republics.

There has been close co-operation among the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, the Islamic Jihad Group (also from Uzbekistan), the Islamic Movement of East Turkestan (of Xinjiang) and Al Qaeda. All these organisations have their command and control centres in North Waziristan in the Federally-Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan and their terrorists often transit through Afghan territory on their way to Xinjiang in China and the Central Asian Republics.

While the level of extremist activity by the Uighurs in the Xinjiang province of China from their sanctuaries in North Waziristan has remained high, there has been a decrease in the activities of the Uzbek groups and Al Qaeda in the CARs.

Despite this, Chinese concerns over the remnants of the Uzbek groups and Al Qaeda operating from Pakistani territory remain high due to the threats that they could pose to energy supplies from the CARs through pipelines to China.

While Chinese officials outwardly speak highly of the co-operation from the Pakistani intelligence for dealing with threats from these groups, they have not been quite satisfied in reality. All terrorist incidents in Xinjiang have had a Pakistani link either in the form of training, or sanctuaries or recruitment.

Recently, the Pakistan government has terminated the contract given by it to a Singapore company for the running of the Gwadar port on the Mekran coast in Balochistan constructed with Chinese assistance. This port, which was meant to meet the external trade requirements of Western China, Afghanistan and the CARs, in addition to that of Pakistan, has not got going due to various teething troubles.

There have been reports in sections of the Pakistani media that Islamabad has been pressing a Chinese company to take over the responsibility for the running of the Gwadar port.

While the port is very well equipped from the point of view of modern installations, its security cover is weak due to the disturbed situation in Balochistan and the activities of anti-Beijing Uighur and Uzbek elements in that area. If the Chinese take over the responsibility for the maintenance of the port, its security will be a matter of major concern to them.

Since the co-operation of the Pakistani intelligence agencies may not be satisfactory in this regard, they may have to depend on the Afghan intelligence services for the necessary flow of intelligence.

It is interesting and significant that Zhou flew secretly to Kabul after a two-day visit to Singapore where considerable information will be available with the local port management experts regarding the kind of difficulties the Singapore company faced in Gwadar before it decided to pull out.

Zhou seems to have gone directly to Kabul from Singapore and not through Pakistan. It is not known whether he stopped over in Pakistan on his way back.

According to media reports, during the talks in Kabul, Zhou signed agreements on increased security and economic cooperation, including a deal to help "train, fund and equip the Afghan police".

The Xinhua news agency of China quoted him as saying, "It is in line with the fundamental interests of the two nations for China and Afghanistan to strengthen a strategic and cooperative partnership which is also conducive to regional peace, stability and development."

No details regarding the economic co-operation agreement signed during the visit are available. The Chinese state-owned company called the China Metallurgical Group operates a $3 billion (about Rs 16,800 crore) copper mine in the eastern Logar province. The project was expected to go into production in 2013, but there has reportedly been a delay due to security reasons.

This is the first time since 1966 that a senior Chinese party and government leader visited Kabul. In 1966, then President Liu Shaoqi visited Kabul.

B Raman

http://www.rediff.com/news/column/closer-china-afghanistan-ties-will-stem-pak-based-terror/20120924.htm
...hmmm I imagine that the Chinese won't be particularly pleased when the ISI ruins all their investments in Afghanistan by the creation of a civil war their to ensure the ISI gets their man into power.


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@colade

ya.. try watch NDTV (new dehli TV) for a change....

lol.... the above article is written by an indian journalist... and as i told you before indian media is literaly making stuff up, notice what you highlight isnt a qoute from any chinese offical only his belief what things "should be happening". Show me any chinese source, if you say chinese are annoyed where is that?

You see let me tell you another thing about chinese they are incredibiliy nationalist and if any power tries to mess with they will waste no time in taking revenge..but then again you probably didnt even know that.. which why you cant interrorgate information as to it;s merits. Really you literally are believeing everything what the indian journalists are typing..and they will say anything against pakistan.

sure there are militants moving out north wazristan , but ISI helping them against china?...No and it would be pretty absurd of us to do that. and why would they do that? we have no beef with them instead the greatest respect and cooperation. On the contary when the TTP (backed by US & RAW) specifically target Chinese engineers in killing and kidnapping cases in a attempt to undermine Pak-China relations. Pakistan responds with all it;s resources in getting them freed, unlike westerners who are left to thier own fate. (no body in pakistan actually cares what happens to them)

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/14/content_2092145.htm


but go ahead and believe ISI backs chinese militants ... and chinese government is so stupid it backs the Pak military inspite of that. I guess common sense is a commodity that one can google off the net...


the problem with you is that because you are so poorly educated you think every thing apart from fox tv is a lie.. speaking of lies how is irani murder plot of the saudi ambassador in the US going?.....



    
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October 14 2012, 2:42 AM 

"the problem with you is that because you are so poorly educated you think every thing apart from fox tv is a lie.."

Ummmm...outside of football and the weather channel I don't actually watch TV...and with both I am usually doing something else and just have it going in the background...unless it is a close game.

"speaking of lies how is irani murder plot of the saudi ambassador in the US going?"

Mmmmm...not sure and don't really care as it is irrelevant to our discussion about Pakistani links to Xinjiang terrorists and how that relationship puts stress on China - Pakistan relations...do you have any evidence that things are rosy between China and Pakistan?

"but go ahead and believe ISI backs chinese militants ... and chinese government is so stupid it backs the Pak military inspite of that. I guess common sense is a commodity that one can google off the net... "

Ummm...that is called diplomacy...they won't publicly say anything, but just as with US aid, the amount that China is investing in Pakistan is dropping. The other thing worth considering is that despite the uselessness of both the Pakistani military and civilian government it is better (meaning cheaper) for the major powers to have them in place than to see anarchy take over in Pakistan, so they will continue to do the bare minimum to keep Pakistan afloat until they can build a consensus among themselves as to how best to de-nuke Pakistan...and I am sure emergency contingency plans for that are already agreed upon between China, Russia, India (countries in the greatest danger of a rogue nuke from Pakistan) and the USA.


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