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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 18 2017, 9:32 AM 

"There is a debates forum now(don't think it has been used), I will be happy to take you up on any challenge you have regarding the Armenian "genocide"."

I've never seen any of these could make a debate about it. They just blame Turks and whenever the wisdom speaks they run away. LOL!

 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 18 2017, 9:34 AM 

Pretty much. They have done probably next to 0 research but have already formed a strong opinion.

 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 18 2017, 10:19 PM 

You uneducated Turkish fanatics are so funny. Maybe look at your own ignorant, fanatic, Islamic society for what you are talking about:



70 percent of Turks have never participated in any arts or culture event: Report
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/70-percent-of-turks-have-never-participated-in-any-arts-or-culture-event-report.aspx?PageID=238&NID=109870&NewsCatID=385

Around 70 percent of Turkish citizens have never participated in any culture or arts event in their lives, according to a new report from the Istanbul Foundation for Culture and Arts (İKSV) based on data from research firms GfK and Ipsos.

According to the Ipsos 2016 “Understanding Turkey Guide,” 49 percent of Turkish people have never been to the cinema, 66 percent have never been to a concert, theater or opera events, and 39 percent have never read a book.

...


Lol! Even half the Turkish bestial population has never been to a cinema/movie theater to see a simple movie.

 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 19 2017, 1:25 AM 

There he goes with the subject changes 😃

 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 19 2017, 7:24 AM 

As if the one Turk dumb enough to reply to this thread was not owned bad enough, there is more this is what Michael Rubin wrote about the links of Turkey's equivalent to Blackwater, SADAT that has tight relations with Erdogan and his regime:


http://www.aei.org/publication/has-sadat-become-erdogans-revolutionary-guards/

... Among the most important questions yet unanswered, however, revolves around the activities of SADAT, a private paramilitary group ...

...

SADAT should raise eyebrows. Its website says it both provides conventional and unconventional military training and can supply weapons, explosives, and other equipment to its clients, but it appears to do much more than that. Even inside Turkey, suspicions about the group run deep. Ali Riza Ozturk, for example, a member of parliament from the center-left Republican Peoples’ Party (CHP), officially queried the Turkish government about SADAT’s involvement in training and equipping extremist and terror groups including the Islamic State (ISIS, ISIL, Daesh) in Syria. Ozturk also asked whether the government’s refusal to allow members of parliament to inspect a camp in the Hatay province was related to SADAT’s presence and training in that camp. The government did not respond substantively to the question, and has even removed the transcript of Ozturk’s questioning from the record.

Turkish officers and counterterror officials also raise concern about SADAT’s recruitment and training in Central Asia and Europe. Prior to Russia’s recent rapprochement with Turkey, the Russian government included SADAT in a report to the United Nations about Erdogan and his family’s support for terror organizations in Syria. Turkish analysts also believe SADAT aids both in recruitment in Chechnya, Tajikistan, and Kazakhstan for Syria’s most radical Sunni Islamist groups, and the transfer through Turkey of those recruits. Indeed, when in 2015 Russia investigated nearly 900 people traveling to fight in Syria and Iraq, Russian authorities found that 25 percent had connections to SADAT. Nor is the problem one rogue group operating under the radar. According to fighters captured by Russian security forces as they sought to return to Russia, Turkish consulates in Russia evidently provided Turkish passports for the fighters from the Caucasus trained by SADAT to fight with the Islamic State and Al Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front.

... In Europe, many politicians assume online recruiting is the main mechanism by which young Europeans radicalize and volunteer to fight for the Islamic State but, increasingly, it appears that SADAT might be engaging in a more low-tech approach. Reportedly utilizing the assistance of the Union of European Turkish Democrats (UETD), a pro-Erdogan lobby group, SADAT has identified and recruited a number of European national foreign fighters for terror groups like the Islamic State and Nusra Front. Again, the Turkish government appears more deeply involved as SADAT apparently enabled nationals from Germany, Austria, Belgium, France, and Sweden to acquire current Turkish passports.

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Charlieturd:

Are you Turks seriously delusional enough to think anyone respects your idiot fanatic nation now associated forever with loving Alqaeda and ISIS just because you hate Kurds so much? Do you think anyone does anythingbut laugh when Turks call others ignorant? Being ignorant is the Turkish national vocation! Besides this is the laughable site charlie the idiot gets his info about the "fake" Armenian genocide from:

www.tallarmeniantale.com/

Who knows where he gets his delirious info that Turkey didn't support ISIS from...


    
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 19 2017, 10:45 AM 

Lol such an angry little fvcker. It's cute that you think you are taken as anything but an obsessed little bitch around here.


You still have provided 0 solid evidence. There is so much more evidence that the US is the main survival line for IS. I have provided some of it in this thread which you have totally ignored.

Bags of dicks, eat them.

 
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Nikephoros
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 19 2017, 11:01 AM 

HAHA! That is your bloviating response. Here is a great Youtube video where a Turkish Islamist who is also a poet and "scholar" said the duty of muslims is to be terrorists and scare infidels/gavur:

İsmet Özel: The primary duty of Muslims is being terrorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcBwxJ0Oh08

Don't worry I will eventually transcribe that and post it my blog (http://koreaofmideast.blogspot.com/ ) so it is harder for Turks like you to make your uninformed propaganda...

 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 19 2017, 11:28 AM 

Oh good I was worried. 😃



Obviously you are too thick to see just how stupid your position is. Don't worry I'll point it out to you very clearly in my next post 😉

 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 19 2017, 12:16 PM 

Im not kidding;Nick is a sick person he needs a doctor;he is stupid and mad as hell.

 
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The Conquerors (Turkey)

Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 19 2017, 4:17 PM 

"İsmet Özel: The primary duty of Muslims is being terrorists"

He also says five pillars of Islams consist of communism and all Muslims have to be communists. Such a proper person for your serious blog. LOL!

 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 20 2017, 5:27 AM 

Let's look at Nikis postion and use something alien to him, logic.


He has claimed for years that the Turkish govt., military and intelligence services are poorly trained, poorly equipped and in just incompetent in general. I actually agree with him, especially with the govt. and intelligence services, I think the military is a bit better but much more room for improvement than I like.

He runs a website where I'm sure he dedicates a lot of time and effort to prove the above. He mocks Turkish military efforts in Syria, especially the taking of al bab.


Next he claims that this same incompetent nation has somehow trained a force called ISIS which has had decent military success and has taken the combined effort of the US, Russia, the EU, Iran, Australia, Canada et
c. As well as the Kurds and other local forces to stop their advance and then years of bombardemnt to begin to reverse it and they are still standing. A group which not only took land from a relatively powerful dictator but has managed it's own economy, media and rudimentary social services. There is simply no way Turkey pulled this off.


Like that isn't enough for reasonable doubt then we have the FSA, a rebel that actually is trained, armed and funded and supported by Turkey and they are next to useless. How can two groups allegedly trained by the same forces perform so differently?


As for your insistence that you are providing evidence, all you have provided is articles of a few people claiming to have evidence, you accuse me of propaganda but all I have done is ask to see the evidence that these people claim to have. The evidence you have provided is at the same level as the "smoking gun" evidence back during the Iraq war. Convincing on the surface but dig a little and there is nothingbut claims by important sounding people.



Here you go niki 🍌


 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 20 2017, 8:25 AM 

Charlie I never claimed Turkey founded ISIS ever. Even today Turks would love to be able to support ISIS with how much they hate Kurds, but the West has got sick of ISIS and it would be geopolitical suicide to continue to support them. Besides weak Turkey couldn't have gotten support for Euphrates Shield if they only attacked YPG or supported ISIS, which forced Turkey to turn against ISIS. Which forced ISIS to take on Turkish soldiers and Turkey.

More for your to ignore:


https://philosproject.org/turkey-uncensored-brainwashing-ankaras-children-islamic-state/

...

Eren Erdem, an MP from Istanbul representing the Republican People’s Party (CHP), said that he has been researching ISIS activities in Turkey for years:


There are more than 1,000 ISIS militants in Turkey and the sympathizers must be in the tens of thousands. ISIS militants have organized all across Turkey – in coffee houses, Internet cafes, mosques and cell hideouts. A lot of ISIS militants were arrested – only to be released later. Those who were released carried out terrorist attacks in Suruç, Gaziantep and Ankara.

Some Islamic scholars are publishing videos on YouTube that propagate ISIS or jihad. Hundreds of pro-ISIS books or documents have been published. But the government is turning a blind eye. There is no enforcement or sanction against those who engage in these activities.


Erdem added that there are at least 25 ISIS cell hideouts in Ankara alone; the government has been monitoring them since 2010, but has done nothing to stop them until recently.

...

“ISIS has a very powerful network all across Turkey,” Erdem said. He added,


ISIS militants receive ideological, logistic and weapons training in Turkey and then cross the border into Syria, where they get more military training to use heavy weaponry and even to make bombs. Then some of them return to Turkey to carry out terrorist acts. We are very worried because we know ISIS can target anyone, any time.




The findings of a Columbia University Research paper documenting Turkish support for ISIS:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/research-paper-isis-turke_b_6128950.html


    
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 20 2017, 9:37 AM 

We dont hate Kurds but Pkk.We killed and imprisoned many daesh members so do we hate Muslims?

 
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July 20 2017, 8:43 PM 

Please Turks are arch racists. Turks are more racist today than Europeans were in the 1930's! Even fake leftist, fake social democrat CHP hates Kurdish and their political party they voted with Erdogan Islamist AKP and the Turkish ultra-nationalist, Islamist synthesis party MHP to lift parliamentary immunity just to fack over the HDP party representing Kurds and put most their MPs in jail. I predict that eventually that many CHP party members will end up in jail being accused as being Gulenists.

 
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Re: Turkey’s Blind Eye Toward the Islamic State

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July 20 2017, 9:06 PM 

Sickman of waff you are the most racist person in waff but you speak like adam smith establisher of liberal understanding😂Sounds like a whore pretends to be Virgin Marry😂

 
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