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How your country AirForce should look like - please discuss

July 18 2017 at 11:17 AM
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Central Europe  (Login havirov)
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I suggest only combat planes (fighters, multirole, bombers). Name type aircraft and their amount.

Czechia:

- 3 squadrons Gripen E/F - 42 planes

 
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July 18 2017, 12:19 PM 

200 F-15E only...

that is all we need to keep india at bay


    
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Dr. Eric
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July 18 2017, 1:12 PM 

I'm torn between a high class aircraft, namely the F-35, and a cheap solution, namely the Gripen.
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An unavoidable war is called justice.
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it is holy.
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"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"

I'm not American, I'm from Flanders.

 
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July 18 2017, 1:31 PM 

I'm torn between a high class aircraft, namely the F-35, and a cheap solution, namely the Gripen.
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F-35, Belgium is very wealthy country.

 
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July 18 2017, 1:33 PM 

Independent Scotland

2 Squadrons SU 35s = 30 aircraft
1 Squadron SU 34s = 15 aircraft
2 Wings SU 25SMs = 10 aircraft

all aircraft using Scottish Avionics (Avionics are based in Scotland as is Radar)

and ditch/donate the 12 or 13 Eurofighters we will inherit from the UK within 5 to 10 years

Scotland contributes just under £3.5 billion per year towards UK defence budget ... i would like to See a Indy Scotland spend £5 billion per year .. i want a robust defence force for Scotland .. within the UK as it stands our maritime waters and air cover is pretty 3rd rate


    
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July 18 2017, 1:38 PM 

Independent Scotland

2 Squadrons SU 35s = 30 aircraft
1 Squadron SU 34s = 15 aircraft
2 Wings SU 25SMs = 10 aircraft
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Great capability and good price.

 
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Bun
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July 18 2017, 1:40 PM 

0 T-50s
0 Rafails
0 Su30 MKIs

250 F-35 JSFs

 
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July 18 2017, 1:47 PM 

200 F-15E only...
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@ Prado

I thought that you will opt for Chinese planes. But F-15E has great strike and self-defence capability.

 
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July 18 2017, 2:40 PM 

Poland:

96 F16V
48 F35

That's sorta MoD plan anyway. F16 would be bought new - we wanted to buy like 100 of used F16 from bargin bin, but MOD was shocked how expensive used F16 were for Romania. So new approach is that new aircraft are cheaper than used ones.

 
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July 18 2017, 2:50 PM 

funny you say that Havirov i swear Pakistan are still building the JF-17s to be the backbone of their airforce

i chose SU-35s like the SU-34 they have proven to be quite capable aircraft and the SU-25s are ideal for ground support .. all 3 types of aircraft are reasonably priced ... the biggest threat to Scotland's security has always came from the south


    
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July 18 2017, 2:52 PM 

@ Prado

I thought that you will opt for Chinese planes. But F-15E has great strike and self-defence capability.

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He knows what he's saying when he pushed chinese crap aside!

 
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July 18 2017, 3:59 PM 

F-35, Belgium is very wealthy country.
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Flanders is very wealthy ... If we didn't had to pay between 9 and 18 billion USD every year to the Walloons we'd be golden ^^
Anyway, the F-35 is great and is, realistically speaking, the only future proof aircraft for our air force. However if we can only buy 30 or so that's not enough. We'll never start a war on our own for the simple reason we can't win against anyone except Luxembourg, so if we do go to war it will be in a coalition. We'll only have a marginal contribution. The Gripen is not great but if it's only used as a bomb truck when air dominance has been achieved it will suffice.
640px-The_Monitor_and_Merrimac.jpg

An unavoidable war is called justice.
When brutality is the only option left,
it is holy.
Machiavelli - The Prince 1513.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"

I'm not American, I'm from Flanders.

 
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Central Europe
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July 18 2017, 4:24 PM 

The Gripen is not great but if it's only used as a bomb truck when air dominance has been achieved it will suffice.
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It´s for poorer countries, btw Gripen E/F will have greater capability. We are small poorer NATO country and our traitor politicians don´t care on properly defence budget (only 1% GDP).

 
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July 18 2017, 4:50 PM 

^^^ Gripen has done pretty well vs F16's in training exercises. They are a short range light fighter, but they are very maneuverable. For a defending aircraft I think they would be a pretty good choice for a small country.


    
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July 18 2017, 4:58 PM 

It´s for poorer countries, btw Gripen E/F will have greater capability. We are small poorer NATO country and our traitor politicians don´t care on properly defence budget (only 1% GDP).
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I think the Gripen E/F is a failure, the aircraft is late and overweight ... and will thus be costly. That's just not acceptable for a light aircraft.
640px-The_Monitor_and_Merrimac.jpg

An unavoidable war is called justice.
When brutality is the only option left,
it is holy.
Machiavelli - The Prince 1513.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"

I'm not American, I'm from Flanders.

 
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snooper77
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July 18 2017, 10:04 PM 

For Serbia, at least 48 MIG-35 and around 30 advanced trainers/bombers G4M/JAK-130... [linked image]


    
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July 18 2017, 10:21 PM 

Turkey:

300 TFX
100 f16 block 50
120 f35 A\B



 
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July 19 2017, 1:15 AM 

555 F22s
2222 F35s
111 B1bs
111 B2s

Drones and more drones
A10s too
Damn all of the present fleet is great, just the latest and greatest versions I guess.

 
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July 19 2017, 3:40 AM 


*******I thought that you will opt for Chinese planes. But F-15E has great strike and self-defence capability.**********

RE: I thought this was just a hypothetical discussion happy.gif

the 200 F-15E was based on a research paper i read some time back... i cant remember where... but that this is kind of plane and number PAF needs to neutralise IAF 1000+ fleet of Su-30, mig 29s etc

PAF is one of the few airforces that can maintain F-15E's complex maint. requirements. with off set being high performance. PAF has plenty of first rate pilots that can effectlvely use the eagle...


in the real world fifth generation Chinese Planes and JF-17 will become the planes of PAF.. the current F-16s are just stop gaps.

 
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July 19 2017, 3:47 AM 

*******He knows what he's saying when he pushed chinese crap aside!*********

RE: Chinese planes are improving their tech and quality each year.. no body is saying they are crap. JF-17 has only one accident that due to low level flying error by the pilot.. plus export orders .. hardly crap.

besides USAF get all the gear because they buy things with money they dont really have.. tell us how much debt USA has?

 
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