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Kick return man = the next TT punter exercise

September 7 2010 at 3:50 PM
Mr.T  (no login)
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Well, out beloved GM is at it again now with Kick return man. I wonder how many drafts and years will go by before the Packers actually fix this problem.

Last real return guy was Allen Rossum...

Gosh this guy is an incomplete GM, wow...

 
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JayB.
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Re: Kick return man = the next TT punter exercise

September 7 2010, 5:25 PM 

I guess I just don't see this as such a big issue.

Jordy Nelson is more than adequate at doing kickoff returns - he ranked 6th in the NFC last season, and almost busted a few. He's solid, and he gets the ball to the 3o yd. line almost every time. That is all you need with this offense.

As for punts, it's too bad Blackmon couldn't get healthy - that said, I have no problems with T. Williams, G. Jennings, etc. fielding punts. In fact, I think it's more than acceptable to have these guys contributing on special teams.

You look at a team like Philly and they have their #1 WR returning punts (Desean Jackson). Look at N.O. and they have R. Bush returning punts. Look at Minny and they have their current #1 WR P. Harvin returning punts. So, why shouldn't the Packers use one of their top position players to return punts?

Guys like D. Howard, A. Rossum, D. Hester, etc. don't exactly grow on trees...and in the case of D. Hester, they didn't even keep him as a return specialist, because they said he wasn't valubale enough if he was just doing returns, so they turned him into a WR.

Saying TT is incompetent because of this situation is simply nonsense. I'd rather point to the lack of depth at DB, OLB, or RB if I was going to make a ridiculous claim like that.

 
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kw
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Re: Kick return man = the next TT punter exercise

September 7 2010, 5:29 PM 

T .... what exactly is it you are getting at? That post seemed to be a little scattered in meaning, so I have no idea what you were trying to say.

I will add this little tidbit (in case noone has heard yet) .... I inderstand that they are trying-out former Tampa RB - KR/PR Clifton Smith. He is a past ProBowl returner whoi had some pain in this knees and went on the I&R. Tampa has a 'glut' of KR/PRs like we have FBs, so he became the odd man out.

Immagine that ! Ted Thompson aggreing to try out a former PRO BOWLER FREE AGENT?
Sheesh .... what will be NEXT? wink.gif

Have a good one
KW


    
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dobber
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Re: Kick return man = the next TT punter exercise

September 7 2010, 6:58 PM 

Do we even need a PR?
Just let the ball roll to the one. All that'll happen is that Rodgers will throw for about 95 yards on the following drive. wink.gif
dob

 
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Mr.T
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Re: Kick return man = the next TT punter exercise

September 8 2010, 11:29 AM 

The puzzeling thing is Jordy Nelsons return numbers, because the dude looks like nothing while he does it. After really seeing the numbers, how could you onclude he's not adequate, yet he's not what I'm looking for in a KR specialist, he's just not.

I want to lookfor the guy who scares the s&^t out of people, like a Desmond Howard, or a Devin Hester.

The reason the Tampa Bay kid is available, is he had 2 concussions last year and has gouat and knee problems.

He's basically another oft injured unavailable football player. Talented as he is, I hope they pass.

I'm just depressed they didn't pursue a threat at KR.

People argue with me on this point all the time when I say, how can't a highly affective specialist be more important than any 53rd man on the roster. Many argue, well, it's not you 53rd man, it's you game day roster, and I agree. But, using an exmple of a deignated kickoff guy who drives every kick deep into the endzone and always starts your opponent on the 20, that's a guy who's more important, as is a KR specialist who instills fear into the opposition.

JayB, I understand your point about Jennings and Williams, but by good if you lose either guy as a result of Kick Returns, this GM will come under the wrath of hell, and not just from me, but the fan base and media.

Again, people argue they could get hurt playing on any down. Well, Kick returns are a bunch of killers looking to take th head off of the kick return man, and basically 11 guy's are focused on killing the guy.

That's just not the same as Jennings catching a pass or Williams defending one, there is a huge difference in the football "Play".

It's just a preferance thing, some people are OK with things like they are, like I said, watch Williams go down on a kick return and miss 4 games, or a season, and the Packers will be basically screwed.

 
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kw
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Re: Kick return man = the next TT punter exercise

September 8 2010, 7:58 PM 

Actually, I don't think this guy would be all that bad of a pick-up. The ONLY reason he got cut was because they have a ton of healthy guys on the roster.

If he can come back (like a certain old QB) and can do HALF of what he did before the concussions, I wouldn't mind it. The guy had like 29+ yards per return!
It's not like he had major knee surgery or anything!

Concussions are just the "big thing" right now in the NFL. The knee pain from the gout isn't much of anything. The team apparently didn't know that's what it was. It CAN be incrediblypainful, but it can be controlled with meds ... and I know .. I've had occasional flare-ups which limited my bike riding until I found-out what it was.

I've had like 5 concussions and 3 major knee shots, after which I have no ACL, a damaged MCL and most of my medial miniscus is gone. (Which = a replacement knee).

Maybe the consuccions are the reason I think like I do now? LOL But this guy's knee wasn't "injured" it's nothing more than a build-up of uric acids that can be negated.
Just saying ...

Have a good one
KW

 
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