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DV-59AVI Pioneer Elite...[QUESTION]

February 9 2004 at 4:55 PM
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What is this High Definition Multimedia Interface HDMI? and my second question is...What exactly is this Pixel Conversion IC?......> [A Pixel Conversion IC that automatically increases the pixel count from progressive 480 x 720 to an amazing high-definition progressive 1280 x 720, or 1920 x 1080i. More pixels = better picture.].....
...Is it some kind of special scaler?....(forgive my ignorance...I'm not very electronics savy)


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The Elite flagship DV-59AVi DVD Player is built to
deliver an unsurpassed audio and video experience, period. What makes it such an incredible machine? Here are a few reasons:

A 14-bit, 216MHz video digital-to-analog converter (DAC) that delivers professional-quality video. This high-end DAC provides exceptionally clean images with very low noise.Three high-end


Burr-Brown Chipsets, for extraordinarily pure audio processing.


A Pixel Conversion IC that automatically increases the pixel count from progressive 480 x 720 to an amazing high-definition progressive 1280 x 720, or 1920 x 1080i. More pixels = better picture.



With PureCinema Progressive Scan, the DV-59AVi achieves high conversion accuracy by actually re-creating the original frames of a film and displaying them in a 3-2 order (called 3-2 pull-down), matching the output to television standards. This creates natural, film-like, flicker-free images that are smooth and virtually free of bothersome artifacts on moving objects.


DVD-Audio (DVD-A) and Super Audio CD (SACD) Playback. These two advanced formats represent the future of audio on disc, with high-density, high-resolution music that is miles ahead of CD. The music is bigger, more detailed, and more open, and you will definitely hear the difference.


A new type of all-digital output called a High Definition Multimedia Interface, or HDMI. This high-bandwidth interface allows huge amounts of very high quality data—both video and audio—to be output at high rates of speed, up to 5 GBps. And it doesn’t perform unnecessary D/A and A/D conversions, so the signal remains in a pure, digital state, and this lossless process ensures the highest quality level. HDMI offers plug-and-play capability and accommodates all of the current ATSC digital television formats, plus it supports up to eight channels of audio.


i-LINK Connectivity. i-LINK connectivity, a.k.a. IEEE1394, is an advanced digital interface that, with one digital cable, can simplify your system and expand its performance at the same time. It’s perfect for handling high-resolution formats like DVD-Audio and SACD.

 
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Allen
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February 9 2004, 5:25 PM 

HDMI is the new version of DVI. DVI is digital video only and HDMI is digital video and audio. If you have a digital TV you want a digital connection if possible (avoids digital to analog conversion) although I'm not sure how many TVs come with HDMI. DVI just hit the market recently. If you have a non-digital TV you're probably better off (or at least not any worse off) with the component video output.

The other is just an internal scaler which scales from 480p to 720p or 1080i. Could do a better job than the TV's internal scaler - depends.

 
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February 9 2004, 6:02 PM 

So then is this new HDMI compatable with DVI?...In other words can you still use the same cable to connect to your hdtv (dvi) and just not get the audio?

 
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February 9 2004, 7:48 PM 

You have to have DVI/HDCP at minimum to use the HD scan rates of this product based on past other products. HDMI is supposed to be fully compatible with DVI/HDCP using a HDMI to DVI adapter. HDMI also supports digital audio and cross communication but DVI does not so you will only get the video if you have a DVI/HDCP input. Not a big deal, use the standard digital audio connections.

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February 9 2004, 7:48 PM 

Are you thinking about buying this?

 
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February 9 2004, 9:36 PM 

Richard...Yeah, I've been seriously considering adding this DVD player to my system...I've already got the Pioneer Elite VSX-55TXi receiver and it would seem to make a good match... could run the audio through the i-Link and the video through the(HDMI) to the TVs DVI...seems like a sweet hook up...whats your take on this match up?

 
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February 10 2004, 11:43 AM 

I see potential.

I think it is time we started a serious discussion concerning your ISF calibrations. Send me an email to get the ball rolling.

 
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February 10 2004, 1:37 PM 

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Yeah, I've been seriously considering adding this DVD player to my system...I've already got the Pioneer Elite VSX-55TXi receiver and it would seem to make a good match... could run the audio through the i-Link and the video through the(HDMI) to the TVs DVI...seems like a sweet hook up...whats your take on this match up?<<

First, if memory serves me, you have either the Sony LCD or the Samsung DLP, both of which have the DVI input. If you get the 59ai DVD player, you'll need an HDMI to DVI adapter.

Your problem is a perfect example of why this industry is so F'ed up. Pioneer Elite does away with the pain in the ass (and costly) set of six interconnects that are needed for sacd or dvda players to connect to receivers, or should I say that this one wire solution works only in THEIR recievers. So now say you do bite the bullet and go out to purchase the 55txi and the 59ai, but now you find that you need an adapter to go to your DVI equipped TV.

But wait, that's not all. I don't know for sure, but let me guess. The 55txi receiver only has ONE HDMI input, right? So I guess you need a switcher also, because you have the DVD player and the TV coming into the receiver, unless these adapters Richard mentions accept more then one input.

My advice is to go with a DVI equppied DVD player, such as the Samsung, unless you are interested in sacd and dvda. If not, the DVI video and coaxil audio connections are the less complicated route, and you'll save money, becasue the 59ai is a much more expensive unit. If it's anything like the 47ai, which I have, you'll prefer the Samsung as a DVD player. Once again, that's IF you don't need the sacd/dvda music.

The whole thing is a damn joke.

 
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February 10 2004, 3:56 PM 

steve...actually the reciever doesn't have even one HDMI input...I would be going directly from the DVD player to the Monitor via the DVI/HDMI cable...The i-Link would be just for the audio...(I'm assuming the i-Link is a cleaner audio connection)...I DO know what you mean about this whole electronic industry being goofy...[kind of like an old lady shopping at Walmart!]...THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO STICK WITH!!!

 
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February 10 2004, 4:00 PM 

The i-link should be a digital connection for multichannel audio that replaces the analog cables.

 
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