Whew....I've been reading all the information all of you wonderful folks have been giving me about DVD players with DVI but my poor brain is overloading! I think I will try to narrow down my requirements and am asking for your help again. I would love to hear your opinions on a player between $300-400 range. Is that possible? Is there a decent player in that price range? I am awed by all the knowlege everyone here has and would value any recommendations! I feel so dumb! <G> But I find all of this very interesting and would be very grateful for any help. Thank you for being so patient with newbiness. Linda
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Go to this thread and pick out a player thats available...If you don't want to wait till April, you may want to go with the...Samsung DVD-HD931...The Bravo hasn't had real good responses...other choices are pricey, but real good.
Does that Panasonic support a DVI input? Is it HDCP?
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Once again I'd like to say that the Bravo is getting a bad rap because of the loader. VInc. has upgraded the loader in current production D1's. The Bravo's picture is excellent, and it always puts the picture to the screen properly once it is set up. No messing with the zoom or widesceen settings unless you want to crop out some of the picture.
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Her Panisonic does in fact has a DVI input. I am not an expert in HD but if I were you Linda, I would wait for a couple more months for a true HD DVD player. The Samsung 931 upconverts the Signal up to HD quality they say. I have heard good and bad about this player. I have a Panisonic DVD-S35 Progressive Scan DVD player and have had no problem with it at all. I also have the same HDTV as you do. CRT, 480i/p and 1080i, no 720p. The picture looks great. I have been looking for a HD-DVD player also. Samsung DVD HD931, is about the best you can do for now, I quess. I would just wait for a couple more months until the newer models come out.
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Kerry...actually, the best you can do right now is the Denon 5900 or the Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi...I just assumed that Linda didn't want to spend more for a DVD player than she did for her TV...I personally think the DVD player is more important than the monitor so I don't mind spending $1,500 for a great DVD player...besides, when blue laser HD DVD players finally come out, won't they have to have special HD dvd's to play in them?...that will take a long time before all the movies are manufactured in high def...In my "new found" opinion, I would never again skimp on the dvd player...I used to think my Toshiba dvd player was great...[until I bought the.... Pioneer Elite.
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Since this is a CRT display, she may be better off just getting a good $300-$400 480p player and using the component outputs. The DVI connector may not be any advantage for her. I'd hate for her to limit her DVD player choices, or pay more for one that has DVI and not get the best player for her needs right now. Then, in a year or so, she can get a HD-DVD player when the prices level out and the local Blockbuster is actually renting HD-DVDs.
If she had a plasma or a DLP, it would be a different story...
Linda, I think you would be happy with any good Panasonic Progrssive DVD player. Don't let the decision take the fun out of it.
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Bob...Richard was saying that on a dvi dvd player when you use the HDMI or DVI output you bypass the tv's internal scaler...(which gives you an awesome picture)...I was assuming that this isn't the case with component outputs.
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The problem is with her particular display, even though it does 480P, you cannot calibrate both 480P and 1080I to work right. Similar to your problem Grumpy.
Linda,
If you are going to have the display calibrated then DVI at 1080I/540P would be best. If not then Grumpy's advice deserves merit.
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Ok boys....I have discussed all this great but confusing information with my hubby and he got out the owner's manual and got this information:
Our Panasonic PT-53WX53 is equipped with a DVI/HDCP input designed to work best with a 1080i or 720p picture signal and can be connected to an EIA/CEA 861 compliant consumer electronics device. The connection will also accept and display 480i and 480p picture signals.
With all that said our question is, would it be to our advantage to purchase a DVD player with the DVI output as opposed to one with a component video output? Keep in mind that we don't own any DVDs at this time and we are also trying to look ahead so we dont end up making another purchase of a DVD player in a relatively short time. Of course we have an eye to price as we dont't want to spend as much on a DVD player as we did on the display.
We would also like to thank you all for the great info and your patience with us poor technologically disadvantaged goobers... LOL. Your input has helped us novices better understand some of these marvelous advances in audio/visual equipment.
Linda and Michael
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I agree with Bob and recommend an inexpensive progressive scan DVD with component outputs. DVI won't necessarily give you a better picture with your CRT based TV. In addition, most A/V receivers can switch component video but not DVI (yet). HDMI (DVI plus digital audio) is also coming, so my advice is to wait for a HDMI equipped player with HD resolution. In the meantime, get a nice, reasonably priced Panasonic progressive scan DVD player ($120 - $200). Fine tune your picture with Avia or DVE. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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I kind of know what she is asking. I have the same Panny 53" HDTV RPTV as she does. I have tried both the DVI and component inputs to the T.V. I noticed no difference in the picture, the T.V. is a CRT. All I meant to say is for her to wait until some Cheaper Priced DVD players come out with the DVI output. The DVI input is HDCP for her TV. All I was saying is that I have a Panisonic Progressive Scan DVD player and it works fine for me, now. I am waiting for the HD DVD players to become more readily available and to come down in price before I spend the money. I'm willing to wait. (but not to long).
Sorry, I know all of you know alot more then I do about this stuff. I just thought that I would chime in. Sorry again.
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Linda and Micheal...My advise is, if you can afford it bite the bullet and buy the Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi...it has HDMI and it really does make the dvds look like HD...it's incredible!...Some IMO look even better!...[as far as black levels and theater-like contrast]...You can find this unit for around $950.00 if you shop around the web sites...{just do a web search)...I know it's alot...but worth every penny...It even has i-Link for "jitterless" digital audio.
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You have absolutely nothing to be sorry for. I believe most of us here agree 100% with what you have said. There is one respondant who doesn't seem to think that anyone else knows what is going on.
The point is, the TV is CRT based and probably won't get any better picture with DVI, no matter how much it costs. Now a better DVD player probably WILL get a superior picture using the component cabling. But that wasn't the question asked.
Don't be sorry, you can express your opinion any time that you want. That's what we are here for.
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Look, I know there are people who will argue about this and then there are those who believe they are TV guru's who know it all.....
I want to say one thing here...DVI DOES GIVE A BETTER PICTURE!!!...EVEN ON A CRT BASED TV!!!....(GOD!...I feel better now)...If I switch my DVD player from DVI to Component cables...I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!...
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Thanks for all the great input guys! It looks like we won't have to wait very long for some new players to become available with the DVI output. I think that's the way we'll go. You guys are the best! <G>
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Since you have a DVI/HDCP unit I would recommend the DVI only because it is an option that you may want to exercise if you should have the display calibrated. If this is not important then analog has you covered.
Chuckenn,
That is the second time you have listed that link and sadly it has errors. Please stop.
DVI is NOT a cure all just like 480P is NOT a cure all. Any benefit you receive depends entirely on your display and how it is designed. We have to know what the display is BEFORE we can recommend DVI over component. Sometimes I can;t answer the deeper question of how well the DVI input performs. Remember that Sony that had -20% green on the color decoder using DVI?
If you want, start another thread and I will explain why DVI is working in your application.
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Linda, to answer your question "opinions on a player between $300-400 range'? I would just have to say that just about anything at the $200 price range is a great player. It seems that the DVD player has become a commodity item...hopefully, within 5 years the HDTV sets will be also....although HDTV may remain a luxury item for many many years...
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Cheap DVD was garbage for a number of years. Just recently it has become true that for 200 clams you can get some really good performance. DVI in the right application has done wonders for many users where only a $600-2000 scaler would have worked.
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I have had a Samsung HD931 since December and have been please with it's easy set up and performance on DVD movies. Mine is connected to a Toshiba 34 inch direct view HDTV and the picture has been great. It cost around $260.00 at Best Buy.
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