There is a new way of aiding the matching of a stallion and a mare by utilizing both pedigree's and a little mathmatics it helps to predict the odds of a possible good horse between the stallion and mare. I never said it was 100% guarntee to predict the future of a foal, so stop trying to sound self righteous with "Great foals can come from unexpected scources at times". It's obvious that if a great foal comes from two "nobody" parents it's just luck that that foal got all the right "ingredients" from both parents to be great and more than likley if you tried to breed the same pair again the outcome would be drasticly different and result in a less than stellar full brother or sister of the great offspring Urban Sea foaled Galileo by Sadler's Wells, spectacular racehorse 6 wins in 8 starts among his wins were the Vodafone Derby, Irish Derby and King George and Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes. Urban Sea was bred back to Sadler's Wells 3 more times as of right now. The three resulting full siblings are average at best the only one that comes close to Galileo is Black Sam Bellamy he has 4 wins in 18 lifetime starts among his wins is the Italian grade 1 Gran Premio Del Jockey Club E Coppa d'Oro and the grade 1 Tattersals Gold Cup. He was crowned champion 3 year old colt in Italy in 2002 the others are below average at best. Atticus was unraced, we will never really know if he would have been good or not, and then there is All Too Beautiful 3 wins in 6 starts her big win was in the grade 3 Middelton Stakes. I am not going to waste my time trying to explain anymore. Your going to get angry I am gonna get angry and well just get into an arguement and I really don't have the time to do that so this is the end.