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Feb 10 Rankings

February 10 2003 at 10:55 AM
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I tweaked the rating system a bit. I included situations where if a team got points against a team that is ranked 5 or more places higher, they would get a bonus. And, inversely if a team loses to a team 5 places lower than them they get a penalty. This evens things out a bit, and I probably should have done it sooner. The only top ten team it affects is Abbotsford (2), who lost to Ridge Meadow(10) on the 7th.

LW    League    Rank    Rating    Team
01     K     01     -3.7      Sicamous Eagles
05     K     02     -1.3      Beaver Valley Nitehawks
03     V     03     -0.1      Campbell River Storm
10     P     04     00.9      Ridge Meadow Flames
04     P     05     02.1      Delta Icehawks
02     P     06     03.7      Abbotsford Pilots
07     V     07     05.5      Comox Valley Glacier Kings
09     K     08     06.1      Summerland Sting
19     K     09     06.7      Castlegar Rebels
06     K     10     07.2      Kimberly Dynamiters
13     K     11     08.5      Nelson Leafs
12     V     12     08.7      Peninsula Panthers
11     V     13     09.4      Victoria Cougars
08     K     14     09.8      Columbia Valley Rockies
21     K     15     11.4      Revelstoke Grizzlies
15     P     16     11.8      Richmond Sockeyes
20     K     17     12.8      Spokane Braves
14     K     18     13.6      Creston Valley Thundercats
18     V     19     13.6      Parksville Generals
16     K     20     14.1      Osoyoos Storm
17     P     21     14.7      North Delta Flyers
22     P     22     16.2      Port Coquitlam Buckeroos
27     K     23     17.1      Golden Rockets
25     P     24     17.7      Grandview Steelers
23     K     25     17.8      Princeton Posse
24     V     26     19.1      Kerry Park Islanders
26     K     27     20.3      Grand Forks Border Bruins
28     V     28     20.9      Saanich Braves

 
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basto
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Tweak it Again!

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February 10 2003, 5:39 PM 

don't know how you get Pen Panthers rated higher than the Victoria Cougars, the Cougars are ahead of the PP in the south division of the VIJHL, with 55 points and two games in hand, they have the 1st, 2nd and 3rd league pt leaders with 79, 70, and 67 pts and have 7 players in the top 30 point getters in the league, PP has only 2 players in that group, I'd say the standing needs a bit more tweaking for sure, PP are not a club that is ahead of the Cougars in any category.

 
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Re: Feb 10 Rankings

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February 10 2003, 5:45 PM 

Vic (11) lost to Parksville (18). Individual players mean nothing in this.

 
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What are you talking about

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February 10 2003, 6:18 PM 

1 2002-09-05 Parksville Generals 2 Victoria Cougars 3 37 37
13 2002-09-19 Parksville Generals 4 Victoria Cougars 7 31 30
24 2002-09-28 Victoria Cougars 1 Parksville Generals 3 40 19
62 2002-11-07 Parksville Generals 3 Victoria Cougars 4 30 38
101 2002-12-14 Victoria Cougars 4 Parksville Generals 5 42 42
149 2003-02-01 Victoria Cougars 4 Parksville Generals 5 53 39
152 2003-02-06 Parksville Generals 2 Victoria Cougars 8 35 45
156 2003-02-08 Victoria Cougars 8 Parksville Generals 2 48 23

 
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Victoria

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February 10 2003, 6:21 PM 

Forget the fact that Victoria has more highly rated players look at the standings, the better goals for and against and the fact that when Vic played PP the results are tied 3 wins 3 losses but the goals for are 28 Victoria 23 PP, I think you need to change your ratings.

 
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Re: Feb 10 Rankings

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February 10 2003, 7:05 PM 

Basto. Please read the formula rankings that I bumped to the front page. Please remember that these are weekly rankings, that take into account results from the last two weeks, and the overall statistics. There is no way to quantify versus records provincially, as most teams do not play each other. Also, no league in BC keeps versus records. That would prohibitively increase the workload of the sheet.

The game that Parksville beat Victoria was on Feb 1. Although Vic beat PK twice in the latest week, it should be expected because they are a much better team. Peninsula is ranked where they are because they beat a top ten team (Comox (7) on Feb 1).

Like I said before, if anyone would like a copy of the spreadsheet I use to see for themselves (it would save me from explaining it every week), email me at njordan3000@hotmail.com and I will send you a copy.

I'm going to post a modified rankings that negate the effects of 'Quality Wins'. But they are much more boring, and mostly only change with a league standings change. Give me 5 minutes.

 
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Re: Feb 10 Rankings

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February 10 2003, 7:16 PM 

These rankings are the ones I mentioned in the above post. They negate the 'Quality Wins'. Standings are the league standings. As there are 14 teams in the KIJHL, the values are halved, so that there are two of each placing. Note that the standings are 1111222233334444555566667777, not that interesting. This is what I originally had as the formula, but it wasn't a good way to compare the three leagues. The quality wins make is possible for a team to climb the standings, and it punishes streaky teams that often lose against much poorer teams.

Standing    League    Rank    Rating    Team
1     V    01    -0.1     Campbell River Storm
1     K    02    00.1     Sicamous Eagles
1     K    03    00.2     Beaver Valley Nitehawks
1     P    04    03.4     Abbotsford Pilots
2     P    05    04.4     Delta Icehawks
2     V    06    05.5     Comox Valley Glacier Kings
2     K    07    06.1     Summerland Sting
2     K    08    06.8     Columbia Valley Rockies
3     V    09    07.2     Victoria Cougars
3     P    10    07.5     Ridge Meadow Flames
3     K    11    08.3     Kimberly Dynamiters
3     K    12    08.5     Nelson Leafs
4     V    13    10.0     Peninsula Panthers
4     K    14    11.2     Creston Valley Thundercats
4     K    15    11.6     Castlegar Rebels
4     P    16    11.8     Richmond Sockeyes
5     K    17    12.8     Spokane Braves
5     K    18    14.1     Osoyoos Storm
5     V    19    14.5     Parksville Generals
5     P    20    14.7     North Delta Flyers
6     P    21    16.2     Port Coquitlam Buckeroos
6     K    22    16.9     Revelstoke Grizzlies
6     K    23    17.8     Princeton Posse
6     V    24    19.1     Kerry Park Islanders
7     K    25    20.3     Grand Forks Border Bruins
7     P    26    20.3     Grandview Steelers
7     K    27    20.3     Golden Rockets
7     V    28    20.9     Saanich Braves

In the proper rankings, the league ranks are 1113212243343264545556776677

 
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