Sorry bout that, some personal stuff popped up. Richmond leading Storm 4-2 after 2. Storm goals by 'Jake' and 'Sobter' I'll leave it to you guys to figure it out. I don't have time to check out the rosters and do all that. late.
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April 6 2003, 3:44 PM
When does the third period end??
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The third period ends when the clock hits 0.00 . That will probably be in about 20-30 mins
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April 6 2003, 4:07 PM
Well duh it ends at 0.00
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Fingers crossed!!!
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April 6 2003, 4:13 PM
Good job on coming so far guys! I hope that the game goes well in the third and our boys are off to Manatobia ASAP. Congratulation to all the coaching staff on a job well done also. Pat on the back to the trainer (Richard) who keeps all our boys patched up!
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April 6 2003, 4:14 PM
Is the Score still the same?
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Waiting, with my breath held!
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April 6 2003, 4:15 PM
I hate the waiting it's killing me I need to know the score... The third period should be over in about 10 minutes now!
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CR scored one right after Rich's 5th goal to make it 5-3, but it was called off for some reason I have no idea of, that was pretty much the last straw.
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Humble pie is delicious. I will definately have a piece in the next couple days.
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April 6 2003, 9:10 PM
Congrats Richmond.....Glad to hear you won.
If it wasn't for the poor officiating on the island, the Storm never would have made it this far.
Best of luck in the Westerns
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April 6 2003, 10:39 PM
I think that the Storm Deserved to come this far, They worked hard for it!! And as for the Officiating, it was even for every team!! I got to watch some Great games played by the Storm and I can't wait for next season to try to catch somemore!! Hopefully next year they do just as good and go as far as they can!!!
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April 6 2003, 10:40 PM
If it weren't for the poor officiating on the coast, the Storm would be heading to Manitoba!! Hope Richmond has a ticket for their refs cause they are going to need them.
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yea refs......
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April 6 2003, 11:27 PM
are you kidding me the refs were bad????must've been watching different game.. it is not the refs fault that the storm took numerous stupid penalties!!!
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Was the ref not the same ref as in the first game?? The guy looked younger than half the players out there. The goal that he disallowed was IN... cam didn't throw it in... he bunted it off of his stick. Yeah.. the guys did have an off night definately.. but the ref didnt let them build any momentum he seemed to be blind as to what "undisciplined" penalties your team was giving our guys. He really shoulda been in the picture with you guys. That Sedar guy sure made a class act on andre too, way to go buddy. Your tough. Oh ya.. and say hey to goldie and curt for me.
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April 7 2003, 6:12 PM
Here is a direct quote taken from the newspaper by the Sicamous Eagles coach "Blair Robinson" prior to the NiteHawks leaving for the island.
"Hopefully they won't get cheated down on the island"
It appears (the Storm) have a reputation of this happening on a few occasions.
Maybe its time we had neutral Refs brought in to officiate these games, regardless of where the semi's or finals are played.
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April 7 2003, 11:55 PM
hmmmmmmm...storm lose and there's complaints about reffing?......how crazy
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April 8 2003, 10:18 AM
The refs WERE neutral for the semis. They were brought in from Victoria, where they reffed jr A games.
Can't say the same for the finals in Richmond, but the refs weren't the deciding factor there-sickness, injuries and fatigue were.
The comments of the Beaver Valley coach are another example of the lack of class and sportsmanship that they exhibited, IF they are accurate. But that's in the past. The Storm team should be commended for getting as far as they did. Lets look ahead at next year now, when the provincials are here.
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April 8 2003, 1:26 PM
why does there have to be ANY excuse when the Storm lose? can't one just say " the other team was better!"
Richmond didn't play the season to win. They played the season to develop their players and didn't worry about wins & losses. as they said, the regular season doesn't count for ****, it's the playoffs that count.
every team they beat in playoffs WASN'T an upset, it was just a result of a better team, better coaching and a good plan. it's time the storm learned to accept that they aren't the best and to give the winners credit for being the better team.
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April 8 2003, 3:56 PM
It was actually the Sicamouse Eagles head coach, not BV's. ;)
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If the Storm expect the crowds to keep coming they need some new banners up in Strathcona Garden's rafters, and not just a VIJHL Champs banner. The Storm is an excellent developmental team, and next year I'll bet that some of the first Storm alumni will make their NHL debut. Parley and Gionet are the most likely. Former players will continue to shine in their respective leagues.
Some of the problem might be the lack of top quality opposition that they need to prepare themselves for games off the Island. They can win 40 games every year, but if the opposition isn't up to snuff, what is it worth?
Short Answer: More road trips!
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The storm were hurt and fatigue??
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April 8 2003, 5:55 PM
it seems to me that the sockeyes were the team playing over 20 playoff games and you are complaining about the storm being fatigue...the sockeyes won and thats the bottle line....they deserve what they got. they are the best junior b team in b.cc period
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Nooo. The Sockeyes are the Cyclone Taylor Cup champions, not the best team in BC. Sicamous or Beaver Valley are the best teams in the province, period.
If they were the best team in the province they could play against the 27 other BC Jr B teams and be 27-0. They MIGHT win against 20 of those teams, but even that is a stretch.
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Hey listen...ANYONE who knows me, or sits around me knows I like a good game as much as the next. I am a huge storm fan I have a few friends that play on that team, and if it weren't for previous injuries, I would be there too...Now, believe me when I say this but yes Richmond deserved to win the game, I have seen more grit and determination from our guys than what they displayed in game 3. Richmond came out hitting and making some awesome passes. The storm seemed quite off. As was discussed hundreds of times in this forum...Playoffs is a whole new level of hockey. May the better teams win. There is no Luck, Flukes, or blowouts, because face it the two teams who dance the last dance, won because they played harder than the other team. NOW TO MY POINT:
The storm fans can defenately give the other teams credit. BV was talking **** about our boys before the serie's and we beat them in 2...the second game was the best I have ever seen, BY BOTH TEAMS. In the Prov. Finals I wasnt' there to cheer on our guys in the 1st two games, but the third game, Yes, Richmond won...we can't change that... but that Ref did need to get his head out of Goldies crotch and get in the game. I didn't get to see the game sheet, but I can assure you, and don't try to deny it but there were some pretty PATHETIC and moronic calls by the officialls. As a fan, and I can only imagine what was going through Pat's head when the ref was on his knees blowing the game. Now as we have seen pat in the past...this season he was a whole new guy, and for him to say what I heard on sunday...the reffing was terrible. Yes it always seems to be the reffing gets blamed when the game doesn't go your way...but 2 refs that have done CR's games have been quoted as saying "I really don't like the storm" Now when you win, you think the ref did a pretty good job... Now what about people like me, who think that when the reffing blew, we did an awesome job and won...or the reffing was excellent, we didn't play well and lost...what do you have to say to those people...Trust me buddy, when you have the chance to talk one on one with the owners of the team, fans and players...then come and talk to me about how we blame the reffing when we lose.
In closing,
I think the reffing sucked, our guys tried their best...(and from a players point of view thats all you can be asked to do) and we lost... The ref needs to ref a few more PEE-WEE games before he steps back on the ice, and I can guarantee you, i will be sending in some game tapes for review to the BC Ameture hockey league to let them know that they need to reasses the quality of reffing in the amateur levels. Had the Storm been able to get momentum...it would have been one hell of a stormy sunday for Richmond...just ask Beaver Valley...the refing was fair, we were down by 2 goals I think 4 times in the game, our boys proved they can in deed play with the big boys..come next year, when we Sift for Seven, We will be the provincial Champs, and WE shall mine for gold at the western canadians.
To richmond.....
Good Luck Boys, and make BC Proud...we are the Hockey province of Canada!!! Good Luck
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April 8 2003, 7:16 PM
Hilarious logic Nick. The reason the Storm lost is because the other VIJHL teams aren't good enough? As a VIJHL league fan - the whole league - I'd be more than happy to see the Storm play 100% of their games on the Mainland. I've read on here that Richmond "upset" the Storm (nice slag of the Sockeyes), that the team was ill ("SARS strikes Storm"), that the refs weren't up to snuff (heard that song before), and now the other VIJHL teams aren't helping prepare the Storm for the provincials? I'm going with an earlier post, that the Storm were simply beaten by a better team on that particular weekend.
Wouldn't it be equally hilarious next year if the provincials ended up not even being in CR? It could happen!
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If money weren't a problem. I would like to see each VI team play at least 3 home and homes with different PI teams, and vice versa. In the KI they play a home and home against the other divisions, then play the rest in their division. They don't have the ferry to worry about though.
I know the Storm lost. I'd still like to see some video evidence that supports that 'claim' . I'm just laying out some theories and thoughts of my own and others about the CT Cup finals and the Storm season and their future. I'm glad that some good conversation has spurned from this.
Anonymous: I was saying that the lack of in-league talent makes it tough for the Storm to play off the Island. The have the skill to win the CT cup, but they aren't used to playing tough teams in tough arenas.
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April 8 2003, 8:31 PM
Stop being sore losers, accept the fact that you lost.....I'd give more praise to a storm fan or player that comes on here and admits that they were beat by a better team compared to the praise I'd give if you had of won the provicials.
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They were a better team that week. If they were an overall better team, they wouldn't have been 18-20-3-1 in the regular season. BTW, the Storm was 40-8-0.
Would you be singing the same song if North Delta had won the provincials? How bout Parksville or Spokane? What if Port Coquitlam had beat Sicamous in the finals? Would you say that Poco was the better team? You wouldn't call that an upset?
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this is for njordan3000
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April 8 2003, 9:17 PM
no logic. no nothing. The Richmond Sockeyes won the provincials which gives them the title of the best team in British Columbia....how hard is that to understand....the storm came second and beaver valley third...if sicamous and beaver valley were better then why aren't they going to manitoba....also if Vancouver wins the stanley cup i guess they are not the best team in the nhl even though they won the stanley cup...very stupid statement made on your part...Honestly put things together and think of what you said
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Listen to what I'm saying. You don't have to be the best team to win the provincial championships.
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April 8 2003, 9:22 PM
regular season stats don't prove anything. Richmond
DIDN'T play to win during the season. they played to win in the playoffs when it counted. check out who played in net for each regular season game. they had a game plan for playoffs and THEN proved they were the best junior B team in BC. the coach outdid the other junior b coaches - watch for him to go places. maybe he can be talked into coming to C.R. - I hear Pat is looking at Trail.
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I was at all three games, the referee of game 1 and 3 disallowed five goals. four in the first game, one in the third. the numerous 5 on 3's were very borderline calls. when is say numerous i'm talking close to 10 occasions. when i say borderline... closing hand on puck, goalie interference, unsportsmanlike, the stuff that wasn't normally called during 5 on 5 play. why it was being brought to attention when the storm was down a player i just don't understand? any even-up calls... none.
did anybody else notice the storm center's being thrown out of the face-offs constantly? good move on the coaching staff for the decision to put a winger in first, so when he was thrown out the regular center could then take the face-off. that only worked for a little bit, the linesman recongnized the play and started dropping the puck with the winger in.
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April 9 2003, 3:43 AM
I don't understand how the storm can lose.....and people still think they are the best......just to clear things up.....Richmond is!!!
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April 9 2003, 9:49 AM
I think the Richmond players must have had some acting lessons before they took to the ice. Some of the penalties that were called were so obviously dives it was sad. The cross-check in the corner took the kid 30 seconds to react to, or maybe it was timed just for the ref. Who knows what goes on in the referee's minds. Maybe they were too busy watching the yoga exercises taking place up in the stands!! There are a lot of good Junior A referee's not working right now and I think it is a shame that they were not called in for these important games.
Now to the guys who are on here bashing Storm fans........find your own forum. We aren't on there bashing your teams or your fans so let us have our opinions, whether you like them or not.
I agree totally with "outlets" comments on the linesmen, and I have never heard of so many waved off goals. That would be a good stat to have actually, as I'm sure it was close to as many as a team would have in regular season play. Anyways, just very disappointed in the referrring of the whole series. Get some guys who have some control and consistency.
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April 9 2003, 12:37 PM
Storm - we want you to go all the way next year - so instead of putting the blinders on - look around at what other teams did. Check out the Richmond site - see the list of consequences for taking a penalty on a P.K. or a P.P. and for taking "stupid" penalties. Learn from the past year & quit putting the blame on refs, dives etc. You have a lot of talent but if you continue avoiding the truth & making excuses, you won't learn from your past year. You will go on thinking you are the best but never becoming the best.
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Agreed, Richmond has won the CT Cup and are the #1 team in BC. Most talented? Maybe not. Is that what we are arguing here? They pulled off the 'cinderella' story, and it looks like they will be a top team next year with their young players getting better, but who knows, maybe one of the top 3 PI teams will be full of 20 year olds and take it by pure experience.
The reffing.....like Rocky said, when you talk with the owners, players, and fans about what's going on, and see it for yourself, you'll know what we're talking about. Bad refs in the VI is one thing, but for a BC championship game there needs to be a higher standard. hmmmmm, the same ref that reffed game one was also working game 3, both Storm losses. I think it was 6 called off goals, 5 in the 1st, ZERO in the 2nd, and 1 in the 3rd game. Some borderline calls indeed, and not just normal 5-3's, but alot of calls were double-minors and such.
But reffing can't be blamed for a whole loss, Richmond did play their butts off, and beat some high quality teams, I doubt they will have as much success in the Keystone Cup, but I hope their amazing run will continue. I'm glad they were able to find the money to go to Manitoba...I wonder where that came from?
As for the comment about people trashing the Storm, damn straight get your own forum. This is the "Storm Forum" (not to say you can't say negative things, just don't expect a warm reception from the Storm faithful)
This season is over, now it's time to look forward to another strong season from this club. The "VIJHL winner" (have to say that technically, but we all know who it's going to be) gets the bye next year to host the CT Cup, and the Keystone is likely in Ontario next year. Remember what happened the last time it was there? Go Storm Go.
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Jordan you summed up the 53 messages in this forum....
I donno how many people I have talked to, that have all agreed that refing sucked...yes, it did...and so it leaves some controversy.
I donno how many people I have talked to that said Richmond played a better game... Maybe so...
ALL the people I have talked to said they wish Richmond luck in the Westerns!!!!
You see, we don't sit here and bash other teams... We do however support our team in their journeys. See, I think close to 80% of the CR fans are Multi season fans. And support this team. If we couldn't handle the losses, then you would see some pretty poor comments on here, for example go see what OTHER teams have left for us to read. IE: BV.....
This forum fuels the drive of the Storm...mand present future and Past Players visit this site. NONE of them beak off.
Go to your own forum...BEEK off to people who share the same View...and GET A LIFE.
I think I speak on behalf of every Storm Fan...young and old when I say that we can take a loss...we CAN admit a terrible game, But unless you have a valid comment or know ANYTHING about us (Hence the forum being named "Storm Forum") take a pill...and do us all a favor and stop talking before you hurt yourself!
"Better to stay quiet and be assumed stupid then speak and remove all doubts"
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April 11 2003, 12:10 AM
same quote goes for you buddy
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April 14 2003, 7:46 AM
So, Rocky, the Storm forum really isn't a forum at all, if I read your post. You want it to be a fan site. 90% glowing comments about the Storm, and 10% trashing of the refs for the occassional Storm loss. That's not a forum.
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