I'm having a hard time to locate a pedigree for Bates "Angel". I found the sire's ped which is Quantillas "R.A.T.M" but cannot locate the dam to which R.A.T.M was bred too. if anyone knows the ped for her or knows of a littermate to Angel it would be grately appreciated .....thanks ahead of time!!! B.J. "Whopper 4 Life"!!!

This is what is on pedigrees-online ="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=136522 hope it helps.

Thanks Matt...that pedigree is correct...just who is asking my I ask...since that dog's owner in essence stole that dog from me?I'd just like to know how you got the dog and what kind of arrangements were made...it's a shame when supposedly friends do you this way...oh yeah not 1 or 2 dogs...try 15-20...it leaves a bad taste in your mouth...there day will come though,there are consequences for such actions!


James

i was just doin some reasearch on my pups pedigree and tracing it back. i'm a lil confused on weather or not i have the right dam to the mother of my pup. on one page it's Mr. Rip x Angel on the other it's Bree so i'm just trying to figure it all out...not trying to start a ruckus or anything.

Man I have never came on this Msg board and bad mouth you in anyway. Now I want you Dogmen & Women to know this. I James Bates Some Three to Four years age me and My son at a Flea Market. We meet each other and we hit it off we Traded pups one of mine for one of his. That's how it started. I'll try to make a long story short He went on to talk to me about God which was good, now he tells me along with my son by my side. I love you man you never have to buy a dog from me!!!! Now I never asked him for one not one dog. The dogs he gave me some where good some of the females prolapsed. So I told him this, I gave them to people whom just wanted a pet and had them fixed. Now he have parted ways by now for various reasons. No mined you these are dogs that he doesn't want anymore with the exception of B.J. which I still have. And I told him I will bring the back to him he didn't want them our me on his place which is fine with. I have never said anything bad about the man people still ask me about his dogs and I tell them he has good dogs. I don't like people that use God the way he did I don't hate him at all All you Guys that think he's your friend disagree our don't do things they he likes and you will find out. I was on the road with this man to dogs shows many a times and he talked about people like they where dogs I don't have to put names cause they should know who they are. I thank Mr. Bates he taught me one thing thier are Wolves in Sheeps clothing. Its alot more I could say but I'm going to stop I'm not saying anything else about this and please don't call me Mr. Bates and Thank you for the lesson.

Darryl Williams

Forgive the mistakes I was a little P**off at the time
Thanks

I don't mean any disrespect, but this trash talkin isn't even interesting anymore. I'm not trying to take up for James, but seriously, if you have a problem, call him or at least email him so the rest of us don't have to read about it. I think I speak for the majority of the people who read this board when I say it's getting old.

Thanks,
Tyler

TYLER, I AGREE!!! PUT UP-OR SHUT UP!

You know what you guys are right. I fell for the trap not going to play the internet bully games.

Thank you Tyler

Man this a bunch of ;ull;hit lets talk about pulling some dogs. Every time i come on here it fills like a sopapra.

yes that was a help thank you Matt!