Terry is not a gun collector so I will say that had to be one of the others, Terry has made treadmills since the early eighties so im pretty sure they found a treadmill. He collects alot of history so he does have alot of stuff that they are gonna try and use against him. My prayers are with him and his loving family. He is a good man who like Floyd Boudreaux will be used as an example, stupid FU#K!NG HUMANE SOCIETY they are going after the wrong people. Men like the two mentioned above have done more for the dogs in a weeks time than the humane society or any of us could acomplish in a life time. I appologize if I have offended anyone but this country and government has gone to SH#T hell we are better of robbing banks and kidnapping kids we (APBT owners) would stand a better chance and probably just get a slap on the hand for acts like these. Just owning an APBT is becoming a gamble on your freedom. I say FU@&'EM Im driving untill the wheels fall off !!!!!! Like I always say "KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND YOUR EYES OPEN!" Miguel Luna.
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everyone needs to make sure their voice is heard. Please see the previous email sent several weeks ago and make sure you call wesselhoft.
Date: Jan 6, 2008 11:43 PM
Poll Shows Oklahomans Favor Pit Bull Ban, if enough people step up and contact them, they might reconsider. Go here... http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/HOUSE/news7900.html
Please contact these people and voice your concerns, while being respectful.
Contact: State Rep. Paul Wesselhoft
Capitol: (405) 557-7343
Moore: (405) 794-9464
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John Paul GOODWIN. He runs the "Fighting" division for the HSUS. He was not only the founder of CAFT and a member of ALF he was the spokesman for ALF. He is a criminal with a record, he is listed on the FBI domestic terrorists list. He is an EXTREME ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST/ZEALOT, with a demented agenda. Who will stoop to any means, to get that agenda enforced! And this is the type of "person" that Arizona Law Enforcement has aligned themselves with! That says allot about the merit of these charges! It's all complete BS... And abuse of power.
Typical HSUS scare tactics. They are trying to get the "Game dog community" in flight mode. They are trying to dismantle any support systems in the community. I suggest stay united and stay strong! No one has done anything wrong! There is nothing Illegal, about owning, & breeding pitbulls and registering them with the AADR! The AADR is not a fighting dog registry. There is irrefutable proof of this!
This is an outrageous unjust travisty, that has happened to some great people in the pitbull world! And these people are in need of our help, in times like this! All their assets have been siezed! They took all their funds, and left them with no resources! If you want to do something constructive and help this situation, get resolved victoriously! Then Please donate to their legal defense fund! I am going to try and find out who is representing them and then I will post it on here...
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Terry was released with no bond due to lack of evidence. They are posting a bond on the dogs though. I just got this info from one of the office people.
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what about pat patrick. i mean are they still holding him. and did they catch them in the ring fight. or is all this hear say. just wonderin. you know.
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as of right now there is not enough evidence to charge them for dog fighting. everyone is out of jail right now without bail to to the lack of evidence to charge.
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well i didn't think he did cause he is so old. but i know he most likely still owns dogs and hangs around his old friends. i am gald he hasn't did anything in a long time. so time you have to know when to quit. i have a friend that knows him personnal and he has told me that thaat guy has simply did moe for the breed of dogs than any man could ever think of doing. people like him no mtter what he supposely has done in his past will always be talk about as the best dog man. he is the best to me. and there is some great one and was some great ones.
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a good friend of mine had 15 pit bulls the county law went to his house and told him his dogs were to thin and had to be on 30ft. runs the dogs were on 25ft chains and had a house. the dogs were fat.they gave him 4 days to put weight on the dogs or he would be fined 300 for each dog they gave him no time come day 4 the dogs were put down on the spot.it got to the man so bad he had to be put on meds.why did this not make the news.becaus they were in the wrong.italked with this man today all he could say was they killed my kids my only kids.please pray for this man he is going to need it
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You know....It's a weird feeling that you can't trust the law enforcement or the justice system now. I am a man that respects the law but all of this recent busting and mistreatment makes me think a little.
Seriously, you would think they would have more since than to disrupt peoples lives rather than try and make a headline in a news paper. When I first heard about this post I said I wouldn't want to register my dogs aadr if it were true and I felt kind of bad after seeing all of the posts there after. I was one to jump on the wagon and jump to conclusions, but it is hard to not believe certain things. I don't see how someone can't sue for slander or wrongful treatment if they have lack of evidence....it is unfair and certainly unjust.
We are out numbered when it comes to supporting this breed and it scares me to see all of this happening so fast!
My heart goes out to friends and family that was wrongfully accused of those actions.
Bruce Church
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i was rong on my statement here. They did charge them but they do not have enough evidence to hold them with bail o they were all released without bail. sorry about that
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HERE IS A MESSAGE AND A FUND RAISER TO SAVE THE DOGS FROM SANDI COY
DONNATIONSN CAN BE SENT TO HER OR HANK GREENWOOD WITH THE ADBA THEY ARE HELPING IN THIS FUND RAISER TO SAVE THE DOGS THANKS.
HElping Terry, what we have started this so far is we
are trying to get money together to help save the
dogs. I am setting up a bank account with a lawyer's
help so we will now have a legal fund to work with.
For the present time I am having folks send the money
to me and I am putting it into the bank. I am working
on setting up a pay pal account to make it easier.
By the 29th the county is demanding 13,000 dollars
bond on the dogs or they will be forfeted. What a
crock of crap.
I am in contact with everyone I can think of to get us
all together. I have contacted the ADBA and they are
going to post the information to send donation to
also.
Any letters and information that you all would like
included I can send to Terry's lawyer.
My addy is
Sandi Coy
3387 ST. John's Rd
Frankfort KY 40601
My phone number if anyone needs it is 502-875-8578.
Tell them to feel free to call me with any and all
questions.
We have someone working on a press release right now
for AADR and Terry. We hope to have that out to the
press in the next day or so. I will keep up informed
if you don't hear from me e-mail me and I will send
you an update.
Sandi
Sandi Coy RN, rdoes1@yahoo.com, AADR Legislative Analyst
Chairwoman Responsible Dog Owners Eastern States, Responsible Dog
Owners of KY
President KY AADR Club We need Responsible Dog laws that punish the
Irresponsible owner and not any breed.
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so is the post up above the truth. people may donate money. well. if that addy holds up and it's all legal and no fraud i will donate. to help out. but to get 13,000 dollors. man thats a lot of money.
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where is all are mony we sent him for papers i have waited 3 years and still havent got all my papers he has never did a good job he dont care about us or are dogs he is all about his self there is no way in hell i would send money to help him all this is going to happen again but next time he is not going to be so lucky you reap what you sow...
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Well i have alyes had good luck with terry. When i registured my dogs i got them back quickely.
I would have said keep in contact with him. YOu can call sandi. She will make sure you get your papers. If i was you i would have kept on top of it. I dont know what els to tell you.
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that's true I send money for litters registry and every thing else I will not give extra money to these registry's we pay extra for these bsl and lawyers where is that money and all the money for pulls i enter and that they get a cut of for doing nothing where is all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!
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You know something Mr.Greg Mealer its people like you who dont help the breed....Terry hasnt been convicted of nothing and youre already jumping ship....So go ahead and distance yourself from the AADR cause we don't need people like you around us, we need people who stick together and fight for others and this breed.....But its alright you've shown your true colors and in my opinion youre no better than the ones who went after Terry in the first place
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Don't be scared to put that name big and proud on here since you have these big stick together and fight feelings. Have you ever thought about people wanting their name off of the site because of all the drama right now with the media. Some people are equipped to take dozens of phone calls and take plenty of time out of their day to deal with these issues. Other don't have the time. So they contribute in other ways on their time and dollar. If you knew Greg or anyone else involved in this board or actually thought about what you said you probably would hit delete. My opinion is that it is someone that people on this board knows and they always don't sign in when they want to start crap.
I've started my share of crap on this board but I've always signed my name proud. A lot of people my disagree with a lot of stuff I've ever said on many subjects but most adults understand it's o.k. to disagree.
Keep on keepin on greg. I know your trying your best to promote good things for em. Don't pay any mind to someone who isn't secure enough with their self to even say who they are.
One thing you are right about anon, we all need to back each other's play and stick up as much as we can but it will do no good to stick your neck out when things are hot and end up with your yard gone as well because of pencil pushing politicians don't like enforcing laws and doing there job.
Bruce Church
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Mr.Bruce our government and PETA and HSUS and a hoop la of other organizations are wanting us to feel the heat and wanting us to pull our heads back before they chop it off. Thats what they want. I don't know how many good dog people will have to suffer or how many good dogs will have to be put down, but I do know that we as American Pit Bull Terrier owners have to stand up to these C@CK S^CK@RS and not back down even if you yourself must sacrifice your freedom your job,home or what ever you are willing to let go. It all just depends on how much you love your dogs and this breed, and how much you care for the next guy in line to be able to keep his dogs. I will fight to keep what I have and for future generations of dogs and men both. In the old days the dark books that hold the history of our breed state GAMENESS = is the willingness to keep going even when the odds are against you and to the extreme extent that even when death is guaranteed upon you that you do not give up. That my friend is what the APBT is all about wether on the pulling track or in the woods hunting hogs and definately in the past times, in the box! Now ask yourself how many times have you sat there and cheered a dog on to pull down the track or to hang onto that hog, or as far as letting one go and crossing your fingers for him to scratch across the pit? Our dogs dont give up because they love us. Dont believe me then next time dont cheer them on and see what happens they lose thier faith,hope,happiness, and trust in us. We are a big part of their drive, thier gameness. We brought all this upon ourselves and our dogs that put all their trust in us......... So what now? Just give up on them when they have cheered for us all thier lives wagged their tails barked in excitement when we pull up to the house from work. All because they love us and want nothing more than to be let off the chain or out of the pen to sattisfy us! Im not here to judge anyone that is up to God. But I am here to say that I am one MAD, BAD M@TH*R F^@KER who has a heart bigger than the beautiful state of Texas and I wont give up on these dogs as a breed or the people who own them. And by the way "anon" unless you are a tree hugging police sucker it is very cowardly not to post your name, but if you are well then that pretty much explains it! KEEP YOUR HEADS UP AND YOUR EYES OPEN! Miguel Luna.
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Bravo to you.....I am glad to see you are not backing out....And to you Bruce I am not starting nothing so what if I dont post a name hell I could post any name and you wouldnt know who I am...All I am trying to say in the above statement is that Mealer is treating the AADR and Terry as though they are guilty already and ready to give up on them as PETA and others want....You claimed yourself on how much hes done but if he's willing to treat the AADR as if its a plague then I say good riddance to him...I thought in the good ole USA you were innocent until proven guilty although I do understand it doesnt usually work this way LOL....But for Mealer to make those comments as if he's almighty then he needs to go with another registery because Terry will beat this and things will go on as before but with eyes more wide open
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hey cowboy whoever is mr. no name you should back off mr. mealer he is only helping himself right now. put your name big dog.hell my name is tony james and i don't know him personnal but i till you what i talk to him a lot and he is a good man. whats nothing to do with this huge problem with patick and willims. i wuldn't. hell they would prolly want everyone on there links site to do it to protect their kennels and their names. people like you are silly and have no respect for vetrans like him... i bet there is more people on his board that has his back thsn yours. i know i got his back.
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I see all your points. The reason behind the not posting the name thing just bothers me. As far as not starting something in my opinion telling someone that they don't help the breed is starting something. For what ever reasons Mr. Mealer said what he did he did it for his reasons man. He has done great things for the dogs and really wants to enlighten people who aren't familiar with these dogs and let them know that they are good dogs and weight pull isn't cruel. I know that much about him. I don't want to throw anybody else's names out because I don't want to step on any toes. I've made that mistake before. I'm just saying sometimes it's best to leave the judging up to someone else. It doesn't help anyone to condemn them because it's your opinion. This board specifically says no bashing owners, bloodlines, or anyones dogs. A joke is one thing but in all seriousness before you bash someone that is well respected on this board and many other places you might think about just holding off and speaking your mind to others in a respectable place...........................I'm not insulting you anon...It's just my opinion....if you want to discuss more then email me or anyone you have the issue with but public drama is good for no one.
As far as Miguel, I do understand what your saying about standing up man. There is a limit though. To put your job, which is your lively hood for your family, to put that behind the priority of keeps dogs no matter what the breed is ridiculous to me. I'm all for staying firm and holding my ground but when it is at the expense of others then your pride needs to be swallowed and move on. That don't mean quite fighting, just choose your battles. That is my opinion. I love these dogs to no end but I would give up ever knowing or hearing about them before I would burden my family in any way.
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Most definately family always comes first, even for myself. That is a very valuable lesson I have learned through these dogs. I have been through a lot for this breed and those involved and I have already sacrificed so much, by Gods blessing I hope it dont ever cost me my freedom, or even my life, but I will be damned if anyone is going to just walk up and take what is mine. These organizations just pick something out of a hat and decide to see how much power they really have by picking on us it just aint right, and I will let them know what I truly think about it, should they ever show up at my place. KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND YOUR EYES OPEN, Miguel Luna.
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Hey guys before you all freak about AADR I would like to tell you that Terry Williams is being charged for Dog fighting right. But Terry did not own or have anydogs in his possession when he go got Raided. Just thought i would get that out there.
its like being charged for Drugs with out the drugs being there. This is a Witch hunt and basically that.
Guys we need to be pointing our fingers at the real criminals that is PETA HSUS AND ASPCA
I can post information on bad things these organizations do every day but i,m sure all of us as pet owners know the truth about them.
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BTW we are still goin to have our AADR show in sedalia Missouri so all that wants to come. SANDI COY will be there to speak on the behalf of BSL and Terry williams.
ALSO we will have an AKC CGC tester there if you would like to get your ready CGC (Canine good Citizen) Testing there at the show site.
Here is information on our show if your intersted in going
Sedalia Missouri
Missouri State Fair Grounds Swine Pavilian
we are having 3 confomation shows two on sunday and one on Saturday
i can give you more infomration just emial me i would be glad to talk to you about it
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