forum is 20 pages of html - each is about 50k in the format of email. When saved as a text file each is about 150k. I have each as an email so they would be easily portable. It is my plan to make them into a pdf. I need to load each one into Word or Frame Maker and strip out the advertisments and the html tags. That is why I saved them as email plaintext -- to get rid of all the advertisment images. I was also in a hurry - I had to meet a plane at 7:00 and TDM said he was deleting the forum the next am at 10:00 which turned out to be a lie...but anyways that is it in a nutshell.