LOL Amy -- you're preaching to the choir here

we all feel like you do and that is why we are here. There are many things I actually like though about the other forum. I like the way it is organized and also I like the fact that you can get sensible advice from a handful of people there that seem to pretty knowledgable.

I agree that it can be rather mean spirited and not welcoming to outsiders and their different views, but it does serve an important purpose inthe whole scheme of things. Be thankful that the no nonsense types who simply want to do everything "by the book" have a forum they can go to for advice. Imagine if they did not and had to guess about things all the time. That wouldn't be good for their waterfowl. That is why it does not bother me that they exist. The existence of that cantankerous board has helped a lot of ducks and geese.